September Update-Discussion Thread
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edited 02.10.2020 in Update Questions & Feedback
Here is where we will discuss everything for the September Update.
Also you can leave your Feedback here for the September Update !
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GGE is getting some really good and some really bad feedback from me this time.
First up the good news, the marketplace bug was - finally - fixed. One word. Relief.
Now the bad news... What did they do to the outer realms? What I understand, please correct me if I'm wrong, is that to join the event we have to buy a special pass that is sold for, sit down please, 50,000,000 coins !!
Is this a joke? Because the frustration I feel right now is really really far from me being amused.
I joined the event o outer realms every time and played as much as it was needed so that I could get the 10,000 soldiers they gave as a reward. They were pretty much a lifesaver, especially when it came to bloodcrew or foreign invaders, where the soldier loss is quite big.
So, from now on, in order to participate in the event i should pay 50,000,000. I think this is a pretty high price for everyone out there, unless you buy coins with €/£/¥/₩.
And I probably should mention here that I am a non-paying player, that devotes as much time as needed to remain on a decent ranking. And so shall I remain.
And the fact that, as I am aware, they removed the free option. Of course they did.
Another sigh that GGE is slowly but steadily turning into a pay-to-win game. I mean, don't they understand that they are pushing players away that way?
Nothing else to say. Truly disappointed. I have an alliance that I belong to and, trust me, this is slowly turning into the only reason I still play the game. Guess many of you guys feel the same.
Fell free to comment on that, I am really interested to read your opinions guys.
I wonder who can earn 50M every week to pay for Outer Realms and Horizon.
It would be better if GGE just say aloud: please go away free players we do not want you anymore. This is a game for the big spenders.
This is really outrageous money grabbing.
Disgraceful! GG game developers are truly stealing a living
We are humans back the screen not a robot
Just fix so everyone can join Outer Realms and Horizon with a prize everyone can pay if that the point.
But better if GG pull back old system!
@WillyWiz (NL1) Thank god I am not the only one that thinks the price is quite insane..
I think they want us to quit the game
@Lina (SKN1) I don't know what they think we are. If only they knew that from non paying players the game is still alive.. The amount of people paying, especially for such amounts, is actually really small...
Maybe they expect all of us to leave all our jobs and family, and just keep hitting NPCs for recovering that much amount of gold everytime haha.
That's what the case has become for non-buyers.
Ugh, why don't the devs just cancel free installation of the game and rather ask money for downloading, from starting itself.
Last update was quite decent and favoured to bring a balance between buyers and non-buyers but oh boom, here they come with this update now haha.
Really gge? Them everyone gets price with so many coints to even get in!!?
Please go back to how it whas this aint fun even for players that pay!!
Another shining example of ppl who don't play the game coming up with stupid ideas.
Outers will be lonely. I know a few whales who don't have that kind of coin either on a regular basis.
The cost for outers is insane. I appreciate some ppl asked for their own castles. But that's so they can deal with the broken game mechanics of big spenders nuking the little guys.
It's laughable that U need to effectively shut down your main so U can go to outers"
This is the case, unfortunately. We are not robots and of course we have a life as well.. Even for people that do devote 24 hours a day I the game, I still consider this amount of money to be quite insane.
It will be funny if we could see the developers' reactions thought, when they see that too few people actually started the outer realms.
Everything exchanged for money, that's what I get from their actions.
I think at most 25 players on the Dutch server will go now.
Ik hope this is a bug.
They will fix it with the next update, normally I spent money there but now I can't spend money
ggs give at least several options to access the event. 50,000,000 coins is a crazy sum.
Been an interesting update so far
To clarify some of the questions asked here:
1. The entry fee of 50 mil coins is only for the Heritage version of Outer Realms, not for all Outers and not for Horizons. The initiative was taken by GGS, based on player feedback about having to build castles from scratch and also frequent food shortages in Outers due to lower food production capabilities. With the ability to copy the main castle to outers, those 2 problems are taken care of.
2. To compensate and understanding the increased need for tokens, the amount of upgrade tokens which can be won, have increased, specially if you rank well.
3. The update has made the Military District available in the Blacksmith Shop
4. The market burrows bug has been fixed.
However, I also fully understand the cost of 50 mil as being very high, and this feedback has been taken and communicated internally with seriousness. Once I have some updates, I will post it up, for everyone. In the meantime, if you have entered Outers, please give us your feedback, tell us what's better, and what needs some work, so that the game can improve overall.
Why is it that everytime that GGE *does* listen to our feedback that they spin it in such a way that the players get angry about the twist GGE adds by either ask a subscription fee, or an insane amount of money or a reduction in the value of things. And when we complain they say: why do you complain? It is based on player feedback.
Why didn't they ask the players before they did the update, in our bg we can't give an update because Nobody will spent 50 million coins to go there, it will be very quiet.
Nobody asked me, will you pay 50 million coins to go there.
Il va y avoir personnes au royaume extérieur maintenant ou que des joueurs qui sont riches en or Plouf !
GGE has stopped talking to its players. They are not interested in players. They don't care what we think about the game. Only in their wallets.
In the past they were very proud on new features and talked about weeks before the features were released.
Now you know why they are afraid to disclose their future plans....
Also I'm told more chance you win nothing, as instead of top 10k rewards only for top 6k.
Knowing grass, I can appreciate persistence.
and saying this only applies to the two PVP variants of outers and not the FarmVille version is a pretty insulting thing for GG to say tbh - when the group of users impacted most are already effectively priced out of bth. this just further disenfranchises many players.
I think that's their whole business plan, and why they don't care about ftp players leaving.
They're just trying to pin high spending players against each other so they spend more to best the other.
Hmmm. I don't know anyone who's going or has gone including players who can afford it.
I am amazed how GG managed to spin this one as us asking for it!
@BM_Red Phoenix now U know why so many of us feel providing feedback is pointless.
It's largely ignored or seriously twisted.
GG is making every effort to shut down anything that would allow ftp or low spenders to achieve anything or win rewards.
Unfortunately everything continues to cater to whales, some of whom complain about others being able to achieve in events without spending a fortune. They paid to win something so they can't stand little guys getting something as well. Even the consolation prizes. And yes I realise I'm generalising. Many whales are quite happy for everyone to get something. Many realise the little guys provide a service and without that service they'd struggle more.
GG and some whales conveniently forget that U need these little guys to achieve. Making yourself available as a victim in a toxic event deserves some rewards. Who are they going to farm now?
Clearly this new and worse version isn't working so well. With such a limited target pool it would be more toxic than ever.
Yes we were complaining about mass desertion in outers. But charging 50 million coin is the dumbest solution ever. Has it occurred to GG to provide better value instead? Packages in outers and BtH have lost a lot of value. Which has resulted in a serious reduction of spending. But as usual, instead of providing value at a price we're thousands would buy, GG chooses to remove value and relies on whales only.
Put the value back. It would bring people back and it would make them more active in these events.
My personal spending in outers and BtH has dropped significantly since GG removed the rubies from the 50k box in those events.
Sure I don't place as well. But if U want my money you will have to provide value. Otherwise I keep my cash and settle for the scraps.
@WillyWiz (NL1) is right. GG used to be proud of game development and announce new features well ahead. Detailed stats were made available of new equipment sets.
Now there's nothing. The focus is exclusively on how can we fleece those fools for more money. And they never try to get more from low spenders but only go for the safe bet. How can we get more out of those addicted fools so they take out another mortgage once the kid's college fund is empty.
Shame on you GG. Shame on us for still paying for it.
We can be lucky that its only coins. This you can earn if you are active. It could be also 250k robs so then it was only for buyers :).
The popup spam is still not fixed. This game is going to end. Everything is on sale lately!!! They even do commercials for their new games. Like I would ever started a new Bug Game Studios game. Lol. So to all those spenders wake up and spent your money else where!
Outers and BtH are toxic money grabbing environments with a fragile eco system. But whilst toxic and fragile it had an eco system that worked and a corresponding food chain.
Low spenders and ftp active players farm inactive players for points. Spenders farm the actives for a portion of those points.
Everyone got something out of it. Inactives got barely anything, but enough to go over.
Actives got better scraps for doing the grind for spenders. Spenders got more.
By removing 90% of the food chain it appears everyone is unhappy. Nothing for most and serious cannibalism for the remaining few. I wonder how many of the 737 who were curious enough to go will go again?