Update discussion

Osiris (GB1) · 13.10.2022

Sentinel114 (US1) said:

My alliance normally has 8 to 10 already on at this time. This morning there are none.
Super-powerful bullying alliances could not do what the game's makers did in 1 update...

I have heard the same from many alliances, seen some of the screenshots of the chat online lists - one or two people and a load of tumbleweed. Loads and loads of people in dove, or just not switching on (or both). Quite an own goal there, GGS! I can only imagine the impact it is having on income; the money you invested in new graphics, annoying bouncy generals, and glitches has probably doubled with the downturn in ruby purchases.

BTH this last week had fewer than 4,000 alliances enter - it is normally 6,000+. I suspect OR will be the same this week. Again resulting in fewer rubies purchased.

Trying to do anything in the game regarding events it too slow, too cumbersome, too tiring, and just not fun.

In the past with unpopular changes, although nothing on the grand scale of this one, you've ended up removing bits of it and leaving us with a watered down version, but I don't think that will cut it this time. Trying to modernise the game with "fancy" graphics to try to bring in new players isn't going to work. There are too many of us long time players who won't/can't put up with the changes. It will be quite a challenge replacing the old guard with similar numbers of new ones who will spend the same (or more) money - presumably that is the aim?

UD1 (INT1) · 13.10.2022

Okay after waiting a few days if GGE may change the update back , i honestly thought we were getting new events , not completly overhauling what we had , i guess if was all about , more money . like the new equipment.

But we are living in hard times were we all struggle to keep warm and feed ourselves , totally the wrong time to do this . but its there game.

It like starting all over again . well not for me my last day today , coming up to 11 years . Its not for me to judge if this will be good or bad , just how it feels for me.

Time to spend money in real life , rather than to fight GGE faceless company , that let mods take all the flack , and honestly should be respectful , but like real life there will be trolls here and give them dogs abuse .

Goodluck to those who stay and those who do not . It was fun while it lasted

Tony

Jewel88 (US1) · 13.10.2022

Yes - you can CLICK ON ANOTHER TAB to see the troops, but you can't see how many men you have left! To do that you have to click on the soldier tab, scroll through the menu above, and read the tiny numbers underneath it! If you don't have perfect eyesight, you can then CLICK on the soldier to see it better! How so inconvenient!

Presets are not much better! Esp if u need to change men or run out of tools!

DID THE DEVELOPERS REALLY THINK THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?

I tried games like this before and shortly left! If knew I need an instruction manual and a magnifying glass to play the game, I would have passed on this a long time ago.

To sum up how we feel about the UPDATE OF THE CENTURY: UGH!

NismoMT (INT1) · 13.10.2022

is the attack screen bugged for anyone?

sofor first attack on barons i uncheck left flank and front, and only have wave1 checked... Next attack, left flank and front are unchecked BUT wheni click on auto fill, it still fills allwaves, and all flanks... i'd have to check the boxes ad uncheck them agan for the boxes not to fill up with troops...

its a very annoying process, double the work honestly. . isthere a way this can be fixed ?!

alc5237 (US1) · 14.10.2022

My guess is if this attack screen had been tested in a non sandbox setting with limited number of different tools and different lvl troops, gge would realize these small tabs with limited info would be a hassle to use compared to the previous.

TripHammer (US1) · 14.10.2022

Been here a while; don't say much and have basically gone with the flow regardless of how I am personally impacted. However; this 'Update of the Century' is a whole different ballgame... William Tell missed the apple and shot his son in the forehead on this one.

Less than perfect eyesight prevents me from distinguishing level of mead troops up to L9 on a 17" laptop; can 'see' the L10's because there are two digits. The update to the attack screen has not been an 'improvement' that was either necessary or 'asked for'; to my knowledge. Overcomplication should not be confused with 'improvement'.

The 'new' Generals scenario appears to be a straight rip from Rise of Kingdoms which is a totally different game than this. The alteration of the castle defense and PvP attack variables is but a misdirected finger in the dike of disparity between large purchasers and the rest of us. Although I dislike it; it is an inevitability that we have always had to deal with and am fine with that.

When the wagon is running off the road because it has a broken axle, the last thing needed is another set of wheels. Fix the axle which is essentially the backbone of the game and the rest required to improve the game should become self-evident... best to all...

Sentinel114 (US1) · 14.10.2022

@ TripHammer - Good post! Although I've tried, I could not say it better myself

RulerMatt12 (US1) · 14.10.2022

Just put the game back to how it was before this update. The game is terrible now.

houlini1 (US1) · 14.10.2022

"Update of the Century" is along the same lines as "Covid, the disease of the Decade".

Not only is it a very unwelcome new guest, but there is little to no instruction on how to do much with it. I click on the help icons in the Generals' Inn and it tells me to go to Game Help for more information. And that was last updated...
20-something-teen? Well done ggs!

DaemonTargaryen (IN1) · 14.10.2022

I love the chaos xD gge messed up real bad
before the update pvp was broken like 20k attacks on 3M def and still got 1:1 kills with overpowered temp look items.
and the update increased the wall limit and limited the number of troops in cy (stronghold and guardhouses gives more cy limit ? rip logic) and it is still not balanced lol

game was balanced when there was no temp look items and no relic equipments

(guess that wasnt making good money profits for gge)

ps. we hate the attack screen we have to click on boxes smaller than the mouse cursor

and this general guy is taking up more than 50% of the space( i dont care how massive or badass he looks make him look as a small box or just the name of general on screen is enough)

Bod2 (US1) · 14.10.2022

If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it! Unless you're GGE, then just change it to some unplayable 5h!T

HITMAN123 (GB1) · 15.10.2022

Might as well of designed a whole new game should have called it empire 2 and left the original alone so many people have invested alot of time and money into this game but our voices and opinions don't seem to matter as a recent returning player of 10 years i was only just getting used to the new layout of the game as it was and i quiet liked it compared to the old one was impressed with the attack screen and presets saved alot of time and clicks now its very time consuming and unnecessary headache and as for the generals No Comment........ i havnt seen 1 positive comment about it either so it makes you scratch your head to think who thought this was a good idea do they even play the game

I wont be spending another penny until something is sorted not to mention the 40k food desert i had after the random inconsistent updates i havnt bothered writing a ticket to support as im unsure i want the troops back have starved aload more and gone pro now think its back to the xbox for me

liverpoolfc (GB1) · 15.10.2022

I have a question to the moderators.... Is it possible you guys could talk to the community manager or whoever you speak to in the GGE company and ask them are they going to reverse this update? I have not played since the update and will not be unless it's changed. I'm getting sick of waiting, GGE need to give us all answers.

Sentinel114 (US1) · 15.10.2022

I would have the same question as liverpoolfc. I am doing maintenance on my castles but have raised my white flag, and am not engaging other than administrative.

ChokdeeMak (GB1) · 15.10.2022

Trying to give this a chance, really can't be bothered. Game just went down with less than 1 minutes notice. Really!!!? They don't have the EQ to give folks a few minutes to re-balance?

AWC (US1) · 15.10.2022

liverpoolfc (GB1) said:

I have a question to the moderators.... Is it possible you guys could talk to the community manager or whoever you speak to in the GGE company and ask them are they going to reverse this update? I have not played since the update and will not be unless it's changed. I'm getting sick of waiting, GGE need to give us all answers.

GGS/GGE have a massive advertisement campaign currently under way globally. Doubt VERY much they will roll back this recent update as they try to sucker in a bunch more stooges to prop up their coffers. IMO

Sleeper (INT1) · 15.10.2022

Does anyone in GGE actually play this game, or just look at it and decide they would like a different look?

For me just, minor adjustments are required and bugs fixed on attack screen. As mentioned above, trying to see the level number, of troops, bring out the magnifying glass haha (increase zoom doesn't increase that screen). The bug of putting in tools or troops when not required.

We all should know, there's not many more ways of what to attack and design.

Thank you mods for all you try, a near thankful task.

Invictus Maneo (US1) · 15.10.2022

I suspect this way over-the-top complicated attack UI is actually in response to the rampant bot use that GGE refuses to acknowledge. All those bots are rendered useless now, and by breaking the UI down into several sub-screens coding new bots will be far more challenging. Surely there is a better method of addressing the issue than destroying the critical interface dedicated players are so comfortable with after so many years of use. If my theory regarding bots is incorrect the fact remains: This UI will drive countless thousands of veteran players from the game for a myriad of flaws in it's functionality. It is clear to me that whoever created this, and approved it's deployment, are not regular players. No one that is would inflict this debacle on themselves!

All of that is aside from the disastrous attempt to "balance" combat. Those elements have been repeatedly pointed out already so I won't add to the cacophony. While resistance and response to change is often more dramatic than real, this time I really believe that unless GGE withdraws their ill-considered destruction of the game mechanics this will be the beginning of the end of a much loved game I've played for over a decade and spent far too much money on. Like many, many long-time players I will cut my losses and move on. Ignoring and disrespecting the studied opinions of your most loyal customer base is unforgiveable...and just plain stupid.

Poseidon · 15.10.2022

TheHound (US1) said:

I suspect this way over-the-top complicated attack UI is actually in response to the rampant bot use that GGE refuses to acknowledge. All those bots are rendered useless now, and by breaking the UI down into several sub-screens coding new bots will be far more challenging. Surely there is a better method of addressing the issue than destroying the critical interface dedicated players are so comfortable with after so many years of use. If my theory regarding bots is incorrect the fact remains: This UI will drive countless thousands of veteran players from the game for a myriad of flaws in it's functionality. It is clear to me that whoever created this, and approved it's deployment, are not regular players. No one that is would inflict this debacle on themselves!

All of that is aside from the disastrous attempt to "balance" combat. Those elements have been repeatedly pointed out already so I won't add to the cacophony. While resistance and response to change is often more dramatic than real, this time I really believe that unless GGE withdraws their ill-considered destruction of the game mechanics this will be the beginning of the end of a much loved game I've played for over a decade and spent far too much money on. Like many, many long-time players I will cut my losses and move on. Ignoring and disrespecting the studied opinions of your most loyal customer base is unforgiveable...and just plain stupid.

For starters, actual bots aren't effected by this UI, macros/autoclickers are. Second, There have been 4 ban waves recently that have banned a lot of bot users.

Invictus Maneo (US1) · 15.10.2022

I meant the Bots term in a generic way, to include auto clickers, etc. I suppose I should have just said "cheats". Thanks for acknowledging the issue and confirming the effect of the new UI. Good to know there have been bans implemented. Perhaps notifying the community more broadly than a comment response would be more effective. Known cheats that appear to be unaddressed are demoralizing.

While I do appreciate that you took the time to formulate a response, that element of my comment was more anecdotal in nature. The very real concerns expressed remain.

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