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This game is on self destruct

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  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 541
    Everything that you have put in your post is what has led to this game falling apart, and will continue to do so. In case you haven't noticed the forum is almost dying with hardly any traffic at all especially from those that at one time were very active, and this probably means that they to are either going or thinking of. 
    The game is a free download, but in order to compete at any sort of higher level you have to spend real money, this is why its losing its F2P status amongst players, and if you lose them then the ruby players lose their targets and a lot of the PvP in the game. Everything that has been written with regards to what players expect from GGE has been written so maybe you should read through the posts going back a bit for some insight. Although your post has all the earmarks of what I would expect from a Mod, so you wont get far that way.

    I person 1 account is in GGE's own T&C so you would expect them to uphold them, and despite you comments they have had plenty of proof about accounts and many computer people know that they can do a lot more if they want to, but of course they do not, so they have brought it down on them selves. I'm not going to go through your post and answer it all as its stuff that has been gone through over and over, with no response from GGE.
    Threatening to leave the game does do something it makes others realise that the underlying current in the player base is unhappy, and the more that inform players of this then the more that the servers will empty, except for new accounts. The game has been going downhill since 2014, and GGE has done nothing to try to stop it, they were warned by players over and over that they were leaving, and if GGE didn't listen then more fool them, and it has happened

    All long established players have poured ideas and thoughts out to GGE both through Support and the forum, its just not listened to. They don't want players ideas, or help, which makes your call about what players want to happen, rubbish to be honest, and just another time wasting excercise by yourself. Many ruby players have called it a day as at one time support and GGE used to lsten to some of what they said, this has stooped and they realise it was totally wasted, and left, before they to wasted even more money.
    If you enjoy the game great, but don't try to belittle those that have had enough and said and actually, left the game, you wont get brownie points trying to defend GGE that way. If you have some idea's then send them to support, and look at their response, but GGE don't take ideas from here, and amny have tried.

    Solutions and comments been and failed
    So even more players up and bailed
    More ideas please, listen you mailed
    Leave our Mods alone you wailed.
    The game is dead, it has been nailed
    The sunsets left, Oooo look its sailed
  • Truth is business strategy is far more complex than a simple principal.  WE have seen giants fall in our lifetimes since they have not managed enough factors.  Yes of course the 20% are important but people are by nature fickle and the clever businesses engage in all parts of their business looking at groups of customers in tiers by their spend.  How do you get moderate spenders to spend more and so on.  Indeed, how to close the spend differentials between each tier.  After all, far better to have a 70/30 than a 80/20 since risk is spread and 1-2 customers leaving have a far reduced impact.  But anyway GGS is what it is and I think it would be hard to argue the longevity of this game based on the viewpoint towards its customer base.
    The pareto principle is one of the reasons giants can fall so hard, it would obviously be best to be 50/50.
    But a common example is that 20% does half the work within the company, then when something goes wrong at the company the best people leave, seeking better oppertunities. When that happens you could lose a very small percentage of your employees but miss half your work rate.
    Indeed, but I guess you are not involved in business strategy since as I said people are fickle.  Do you really believe any business can offer such incentives to guarantee keeping the 20% and that they cannot be tempted to move all be it for a new experience.  lol...nah.  Any business that has 20% doing 80% of the work is in a pretty bad place and I would suggest that they take a long look at why 80% are cruising compared to the 20% as I suggest that we all stick with our day jobs and what we may be good at
    Andrew Wallace @ en 1
  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,233
    Truth is business strategy is far more complex than a simple principal.  WE have seen giants fall in our lifetimes since they have not managed enough factors.  Yes of course the 20% are important but people are by nature fickle and the clever businesses engage in all parts of their business looking at groups of customers in tiers by their spend.  How do you get moderate spenders to spend more and so on.  Indeed, how to close the spend differentials between each tier.  After all, far better to have a 70/30 than a 80/20 since risk is spread and 1-2 customers leaving have a far reduced impact.  But anyway GGS is what it is and I think it would be hard to argue the longevity of this game based on the viewpoint towards its customer base.
    The pareto principle is one of the reasons giants can fall so hard, it would obviously be best to be 50/50.
    But a common example is that 20% does half the work within the company, then when something goes wrong at the company the best people leave, seeking better oppertunities. When that happens you could lose a very small percentage of your employees but miss half your work rate.
    Indeed, but I guess you are not involved in business strategy since as I said people are fickle.  Do you really believe any business can offer such incentives to guarantee keeping the 20% and that they cannot be tempted to move all be it for a new experience.  lol...nah.  Any business that has 20% doing 80% of the work is in a pretty bad place and I would suggest that they take a long look at why 80% are cruising compared to the 20% as I suggest that we all stick with our day jobs and what we may be good at
    Correct, I am just a player who moderates the forum. I don't even recall what made me bring it up in the first place, but I do know I didn't bring it up to defend any of the recent changes.
  • Everything that you have put in your post is what has led to this game falling apart, and will continue to do so. In case you haven't noticed the forum is almost dying with hardly any traffic at all especially from those that at one time were very active, and this probably means that they to are either going or thinking of. 
    The game is a free download, but in order to compete at any sort of higher level you have to spend real money, this is why its losing its F2P status amongst players, and if you lose them then the ruby players lose their targets and a lot of the PvP in the game. Everything that has been written with regards to what players expect from GGE has been written so maybe you should read through the posts going back a bit for some insight. Although your post has all the earmarks of what I would expect from a Mod, so you wont get far that way.

    I person 1 account is in GGE's own T&C so you would expect them to uphold them, and despite you comments they have had plenty of proof about accounts and many computer people know that they can do a lot more if they want to, but of course they do not, so they have brought it down on them selves. I'm not going to go through your post and answer it all as its stuff that has been gone through over and over, with no response from GGE.
    Threatening to leave the game does do something it makes others realise that the underlying current in the player base is unhappy, and the more that inform players of this then the more that the servers will empty, except for new accounts. The game has been going downhill since 2014, and GGE has done nothing to try to stop it, they were warned by players over and over that they were leaving, and if GGE didn't listen then more fool them, and it has happened

    All long established players have poured ideas and thoughts out to GGE both through Support and the forum, its just not listened to. They don't want players ideas, or help, which makes your call about what players want to happen, rubbish to be honest, and just another time wasting excercise by yourself. Many ruby players have called it a day as at one time support and GGE used to lsten to some of what they said, this has stooped and they realise it was totally wasted, and left, before they to wasted even more money.
    If you enjoy the game great, but don't try to belittle those that have had enough and said and actually, left the game, you wont get brownie points trying to defend GGE that way. If you have some idea's then send them to support, and look at their response, but GGE don't take ideas from here, and amny have tried.

    Solutions and comments been and failed
    So even more players up and bailed
    More ideas please, listen you mailed
    Leave our Mods alone you wailed.
    The game is dead, it has been nailed
    The sunsets left, Oooo look its sailed

    dude seriously do everyone a favor and just leave the game...... what do u want GG to boot u off the server before you realize your washed up and are in need of a a new game to play... nobody cares that you feel the game is dead....why are you still playing a dead game anyways??? change servers...take a break....  you are the one that thinks that your threat to leave the game is going to get you anything from GG... we are talking about a 10 year old game wanting gg to pour their money into it just because you think they should.... you think gg should do more but u bring no solutions  to the table... so why even bother with it ... sings "sometimes i feel like im beating a dead horse and i dont know why u keep bringing me down"

    the thing u said about the minor league players leaving the minors means that the ruby players wont have any targets makes no sense.... unless you see yourself as a victim... GG your not doing enough ...i want my 10 year old game to be like fresh and new again but im unhappy so i wont be purchasing anything you have to offer at this time... you wont get my money anymore...  GG you invest your money into the game while i invest somewhere else...do u see how that sounds???
    your bitter and brittle bro..... kick rocks



    the sunsets left so why dont you....
    oh but you thought u had a clue...
    no solutions to be had as u run off crying and mad
    so you can take your wooden tools back home
    call gg on the phone but u get only a dial tone
    im willing to bet you suck at attacking and defending if you were all alone....
  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 541
    you are one mixed up person, that seems to be mixing players posts up to suit yourself. 90% of what you wrote isn't relevant, 10%  is whatever your smoking talking.
    I wonder if you can in fact read, and if you can what the words mean. The indicators are that you don't, I cant make my mind up if your a kid or adult as its so mixed up, but I do think you probably come out in favour of multi's and shells for the most obvious reasoning!, which is your experience of them  ;);).
    Now try to be a good boy and do a bit of reading on past posts and try to see who wrote what and where, its marvelous therapy, and a bit of honey on your thumb will help with your attention span, and will stop you making foolish comments about no one giving GGE ideas, help, to save the game. If your goin to play with the big boys and post on big boy forums, at least try to keep up with the threads on idea's, and ingame problems, it will save many readers having to read the same old posts over and over, and once your done log on regulaly as you can keep yourself up to date with whats written.

    You have a nce day now!
  • kick rocks bro ....nobody cares
  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 541
    And there you go!,  Why would I want to kick rocks, broooo.

    Hey dude, seen any turtles around lately, you know those big green things with shells on their backs.  NAH, nobody cares anyway!.  

    Chill bro!
  • berty23uk (GB1)berty23uk (GB1) GB1 Posts: 13
    are we finally going to see the samurai on friday???? why do these never pop up as much now? changes the scenery 
  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 269
    sams are actually down to be played when bloodclaws have finished 1/2 days from now 
  • You are right BM Daisho and I think many know the game is coming to an end in the next few years.

    As for me once I complete level 6 HoL stuff I am done thinking about sceats.  I did the math a few months back and for me to do the 40K sceats for the lines would take about 5 years.  That is if GGE did not add something else to use them on that us non or low spenders need or desire.

    But the new stuff will be had by the Whales in a year or so at most so then GGE will add a line 8 at even higher sceats most likely I would think to try and keep them spending.

    Of course the big question is what is GGE going to do if 1/3 or 1/2 of the big spenders just say screw it and leave.   As per Poseidon X that 20% does 50% of the cash flow.   If you lose 1/3 to 1/2 of that it is a real hit.  Already GGE did a layoff like 2 or 3 years ago of a lot of staff and it actually shows as no new real events have been added for a long long time.  

    I do not count just clones with slight changes to them a NEW EVENT.   
    There's a post somewhere in ideas, etc. where someone talked about ideas for a new event. I think it's a discussion worth the time; GGE lost its creativity and potential somewhere in the stack of complaints and greed for more $$$.
    I just wish GGS was open-minded; to the average player it looks like everything is normal till you get to a higher level and see the injustices; most of the problems could be fixed if GGS CARED.
    Thing is, they don't seem to anymore.
    Proud non-ruby buyer. Do the same, don't be a whale!
    Proud member of The Rebel Union. (Yeah, I'm proud of a lot of things.)

  • DaveHero0 (GB1)DaveHero0 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 258
    Just popped back on a whim after a few years away to see how things are

    And its no different ;-)

    Game appears to have gone downhill even faster than I thought!
    DaveHero0 @ en 1
  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,233
    And a few years ago people said the game wouldn't be alive today.
  • DaishoDaisho Moderator Posts: 234
    Just popped back on a whim after a few years away to see how things are

    And its no different ;-)

    Game appears to have gone downhill even faster than I thought!
    dont kid yourself too much.. its only been a year :)
  • Mod Zoe figured out how to get me logged in here.   

    Do I think the game is dead...   NO  

    Do I think the game is on Life Support..... YES

    Yes everyone, the game is still active but it is just not the same game as many have noted.   If it was a thriving game there would not be food 8/2 ops for the taking by any person joining and starting out.   I remember when you were fortunate to get a few 6/2 food ops unless you were in the top 5 or 10 alliances.

    Now on the US1 server there are plenty of open 8/2 food ops and ones in ruin for players.  Even players on very low ranking alliances are able to get them with NO PROBLEM.  Same with Ice, Sand, and Fire RV's.   

    There is also so much open space on the game map at least on US1 it is sad really.  I can go for alot of clicks without but one or two other people having a main.  As for birding that is more and more at least on US1.   

    I was hoping the new event/whatever would bring back some life but now that seems to be sort of put on the slow train to adding it.  There has not been any teaser for about 10 days and no mention of anything on it anywhere. 

    Me best "Guess" is they have some issues with it (bugs?) or it is not playing like they want or lastly there may be other issues with it slowing it down.  There is no reason for a company to do weeks of teasers daily and then all of a sudden nothing unless there are issues.

    The best answer I get from someone unnamed is "it is coming but might be later than sooner".

    With the Sept first half events posted it sure is not the sooner I believe.   Just the same old stuff over and over again.

    Still, I truly do hope it comes but not holding my breath or anything.   For all we know it may die in being made stage and never make it to the game.   Sure hope not........

    And as the last "Teaser" said I am prepared and just waiting.........


    Justinlegoboy @ usa 1
  • DaishoDaisho Moderator Posts: 234
    edited 28.08.2022
    Hi all

    the winners are:

    @.Rio. (US1)
    @roosjel (NL1)
    @Empire of Eddie (US1)
    @looroll12345 (GB1)
    @dandelion1958 (GB1)
    @Serbian Legion (GB1)
    @Best Imperator (WORLD1)
    @DaemonTargaryen (IN1)
    @sanjay47 (GB1)
    @DarkDraco (WORLD1)

    You and your mentioned player both win a whopping 10k rubies... lol

    Thanks to all those who participated.. will make sure next competition is much easier and gives out better rewards ;)

    Thanks,

    Daisho
  • .Rio. (US1).Rio. (US1) US1 Posts: 18
    Thank you so much @Daisho
  • DaishoDaisho Moderator Posts: 234
    wait I put this in the wrong thread haha, whoops ;)
  • DaishoDaisho Moderator Posts: 234
    put it in the right thread now :) regardless, winners should be sent out soonish
  • I'm fine with people having 2 or 3 accounts as long as its not abusing the system... 
  • Paul JP1 (AU1)Paul JP1 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 66

    Why can't GGE Leve the attack screen alone ??????????????????????????? please leve it alone :-(
    Paul JP1 @ au 1

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