PVP Feedback / Concerns

Tony C (INT1) · 20.07.2022

The problem is PvP attackers has become too overpowered. It's too easy to get multiple extra waves, build items that boost every aspect of an attack. So there is more on the wall making it almost impossible to hold the wall. Add on to that overpowered centre, melee, ranged and CY bonuses and it's just too overpowered. Add on to that, the ability to just go and buy hundreds of thousands of troops with no cap.I've always said I don't mind people who want to buy, getting a bit on an advantage, but the gap is way, way too wide between buyers and non-buyers. Skill and strategy doesn't matter any more. All that matters is how much you are willing to buy.

And you might say, defence temp build items balance out the attack temp build items. No they don't. Advantage is already with the attacker anyway, plus they can put build items in one location only. But defender has to put build items in every different location they get attacked.

Look even at the BTH and OR events. You will get L70 players attacking all the L11 players and there is nothing that can be done. How good of bad you do in those events just comes down to luck if you have a ruby whale as a neighbor or not, it's nothing al all to do with skill or tactics or strategy. You know how badly broken those events are, when instead of people joining early so they have more time to make more points, they join as late as they can before the cutoff, so they don't get farmed down as much as lose so many points.

If you want to fix PvP you need to stop the crazy overpowering, and put some serious limitations on the advantages you can buy.

Breor (US1) · 21.07.2022

The power gap between top and average is so much wider than it was in the game's heyday. Events are so imbalanced now with 1000% boosters and the gap in food production and commanders that you almost can't attach PVP stuff to the events without automatically making PVP pay to win.

It needs to become easier for free-to-play or low-spenders to acquire competitive defense tools, build items, units, equipment, etc.
The 12-hour and other short term looks should be removed (at least as premium offers) as usually only the mega-spenders get them.
With a swipe of the CC, a player can buy a gigantic number of units, defenders for example. Instant advantage, no strategy involved. These offers should be made less competitive.
Direct real-money gambling (wheel, random boxes) needs to be taken out.
Improve social features in the game and bring in more players to improve motive to do PVP/war. Players are more motivated to war as an alliance when they feel invested in the game.

Realistic advice to developers? Not sure. But it's what needs to happen.

JPS Kills (GB1) · 21.07.2022

Glory numbers lost its value the day they introduced titles above King. When you got to king those days, it was hard work. Now, anyone can get to it in one hit and more.Glory events have reduced the value of "real glory."

Best Imperator (WORLD1) · 21.07.2022

I think, when the attack and defense relation will be balanced, it would be great to create a sort of "pvp event" where glory points only from pvp bring interesting rewards (good defenders for example) to bring value to pvp.

Ripper Ace (WORLD1) · 22.07.2022

How can PVP be fun when a lvl 70 250 can attack a lvl 70 10. The lower level can never win and cant retaliate back. After repairing your castle so many times many players just say screw it and quit. Balance the damn game.

DaemonTargaryen (IN1) · 23.07.2022

GGE is forcing everyone to spend money in game... from the point of business view its ok.. but its is ruining the game.
Players leaving game and talks about merging servers and atlast it will be whales fighting eachother till they realise there is no strategy left only money dumping.

Happy Gaming

bazzara (GB1) · 23.07.2022

do away with pvp completely
is one of the main reasons why so many players have left the game and why players are still leaving today the inbalance and unfairness on low castles being hit and silly billys not stopping hitting you until all your castle are defeated are three reasons
adjust f/lords to glory better as it needs readjusting
make bloodclaws into a honour event and re sort and start that as well
but making pvp only possible for those that spend money stops other doing it

BigBadBootyDady (US1) · 24.07.2022

This has turned into a, buy a championship ring game. How realistic is it for an attacker to send a 14,000 troop attack and kill more defenders with over 200,000 in the courtyard? The attacker is allowed to send back to back attacks until the defender is out of troops. GGE has created this problem and they are killing the game. GGE is chasing the dollars so hard they are losing the players that made the game great. GGE is doing the same thing NASCAR did a few years ago, change the rules to get new fans and now they can't fill a race up with 100,000 fans at the same place 15 years ago they sold out with 250,000 fans. I started my deletion and it will be complete in 5 days, do you think anyone at GGE has contacted me asking why? The answer is NO. I sent them a message asking a simple question and I got an auto-reply, that was it. I replied asking them are you not going to answer my question, still no reply. You would think I spent no money or time playing this game, well I spent too much money and been playing 7 years. I will be done with this game shortly. I am excited about enjoying real life.
Good luck to the rest of you...GGE lost me and they don't care.

DaemonTargaryen (IN1) · 24.07.2022

BigBadBootyDady (US1) said:

This has turned into a, buy a championship ring game. How realistic is it for an attacker to send a 14,000 troop attack and kill more defenders with over 200,000 in the courtyard? The attacker is allowed to send back to back attacks until the defender is out of troops. GGE has created this problem and they are killing the game. GGE is chasing the dollars so hard they are losing the players that made the game great. GGE is doing the same thing NASCAR did a few years ago, change the rules to get new fans and now they can't fill a race up with 100,000 fans at the same place 15 years ago they sold out with 250,000 fans. I started my deletion and it will be complete in 5 days, do you think anyone at GGE has contacted me asking why? The answer is NO. I sent them a message asking a simple question and I got an auto-reply, that was it. I replied asking them are you not going to answer my question, still no reply. You would think I spent no money or time playing this game, well I spent too much money and been playing 7 years. I will be done with this game shortly. I am excited about enjoying real life.
Good luck to the rest of you...GGE lost me and they don't care.

Respect ++

SUPER-MAC (GB1) · 24.07.2022

Design an event like outer realms, where the player cannot buy rubys, and everyone starts from the begining, skill only, tryn to make one for skill not proffit, PVP is what the game is, too many alliance just do events, just cash cows the the game, when you start its fun and have battles, then when you get high or into the bigger alliances, it goes a bit boring just hitting events, but the rubys whales kinda ruin it for people coz they can just buy thousands of troops and keep hitting untill your wiped out, no real skill at all, its a shame coz there is great players that cannot win and they should, there is people with captials and metro's that shouldnt really have them they just buy there way in, i have to say its ralistic reprisentation of real life, politics, leaders and war marshals as they are all there from money and not skill, beyond the horizons, ruby whales win, outer realms, rubys whales win, everywhere you go the game is bases on little skill, you need to develop, an event pvp event that is not fuled by spend, make a no spend event pvp, and everyone starts from level 51, just make it for fun not for proffit, then we will see who the real players are, not the rich. design a good event pvp, no buying or shops, just raw gae and skill, no cheating no buying nothing at all, everyone has the same and builds up using skill, make really good rewads.

Aegon Targaryen (INT2) · 25.07.2022

PvP was heart of the game back in the days, now its not fun anymore and that killed the fun a lot, and that made lot of players leave the game, cause now its easy for big spenders to get everything so fast, to make difference in so many levels that average player cant compete. So main question to ask GG people is hot to motivate players to stay or new players to get on with the game when one of the most important things in the game is BROKEN !? Too many benefits for spenders, rewards are better and better with time, gap is even bigger day by day, all kinds of boosters, look items, equipment of super power, of course buyers get that but average player need months or years to get something like that...

The point is, back in days when PvP was amazing there were spenders too but they didnt had the chance to make that difference like today, even if they spend in the past, a good organization, strategy, tactic and more hours spent on the game could lead you to victory and that was sweetest part... U could grind out some things playing smart and investing more hours, today its not possible and that killed the game...

My advice is to reduce powers on offers, to make those benefits less better and reduce the gap between players by giving a chance to average player to earn rubies more through loot, events etc. To give chance to earn other rewards faster at least, to invent something to make more balance and game will be more fun.

Soul4Life2 (NL1) · 25.07.2022

thebossman1929 (US1) said:

I wanted to mention the cheating that is going on, I had a member of my Alliance send a screent shot of a player with 85 MILLION Khan tablets......How is this humanely possible....If it is, then the game needs to be recalibrated for fairness.
I have attached an image

there is a slight difference between the ragepoints and the tablets............lol

mikeram (US1) · 25.07.2022

i am not a big spender in comparison to the whales but do spend at least 100 per month been playing for 11 years or so and have seen the game change from where you could defend yourself to now where there is not much point recruiting defenders I only recruit attack troops and send them away when not on line and set up fire casts at all my castle this does work but I would rather be able to defend myself there needs to be balance to the game it used to be the advantage went to the player defending not any more you also used to get honor from defending and winning that should be brought back so there is something to gain from defending

steelcuratin (US1) · 26.07.2022

todays attacks r not pvp . pvp used to be an honorable game .You would attack someone and they defended got support and then they attacked you back.Now a days your hit repeatedly by 8-10 wave attacks and if you hit certain alliances back then retaliate 10 fold or paint you red.You have ruby whales sending multiple hits on same player until the player has no defenders left then sends a massive 10 wave attack just to burn the player thats not pvp thats bullying.If u want more players defending then there eithere has to be a cool down period before that player can be attacked again, unless at war or add levels of wall defence so u can defend.if a player can send a 10 wave attack u should be able to counter with 10 levels of wall defence... until changes are made it will be the top 10 alliances along with your handful of bully alliances doing as they wish

LegendarySamuel (SKN1) · 26.07.2022

I agree with so many of the others that have wrote above but want to add one thing, there are too many events, sometimes it´s going on 4-5 events same time and the overlap eachother so there are no time for pvp and members in the alliances I have been in are to occypied with events so they do not want pvp or war, but thing is that they do want pvp and war all I know just feel they have no time for it when there is so much need for build up and only way to reach that is many times to be activ in the events.
One other thing with all those events that going on 24/7 they take away the social part in game that allways was real fun, and the event I meen specialy is BH and OR were we go to a gathering all around world servers.

Sorry about my bad english hope you get the point anyway :-)

dandelion1958 (GB1) · 01.08.2022

I have played since 2013 and believe the current situation has become as unbalanced as when they started introducing the Unique equipment sets -the new relic stuff tkes time to understand - and reminds me of the mix and match time when legendary was best - there needs to be an easier way to obtains the "coinage" - sceats, construction/build tokens etc. other than by slogging - I'm curently looking at 6 months (or more) builds before i get to a defensible situatiin again !

and yes i've done PvP and buy some rubies - buy am doing a lot less of both now because the changes seem to be geared to make me spend more - so i spend less an look for something better to do - like LEGO !

Iceyshades (GB1) · 01.08.2022

PVP is Dead

watch out or events will also die.

Shame, because there are parts of this game I still enjoy and there are still players coming back after years being away which just shows how addictive it was.

Stop pandering to the few and go back to encouraging the many

Stevemass (GB1) · 02.08.2022

I 100% agree but money and profit is GGEs soul game and as we all know sooner rather than later we will not have a game to play. ( now I will just wair for the mods to despute the facts as usual GGE )

Wiglema (NL1) · 02.08.2022

1. When one month of time and effort to recruit defenders 24/7 can be undone by one minute of using credit card, it is not PvP but buy vs play.
2. Loot boxes and wheels of fortune etc. are making this more a gambling game than a strategy game, especially if it is more or less required for doing what GGE calls PvP. (Incoming attacks recently all have those items equipped, so yes, the buyers apparently feel obliged to gamble.)

Fair and balanced PvP died many years ago.

Juan Mercado (INT1) · 03.08.2022

UD1 (INT1) said:

PVP built this game , but it is not the same as 10 years ago , no matter who you were you had a chance of winning , but now the deeper the pockets the odds our in your favour , there is a player in INT1 who says i am better than you , my answer was your not better , you just have more money to spend .

Now these super equipment is so superior and has now incorporated fire , soon to follow is a fire and destroy also . it is easier to put a fire com up for big attacks and then take down for normal attacks .

but these changes come and go so fast , then we up for the next challenge , i think that it why players just prefer doing just events . why spend fortune on attacking and use up 60/70k soldiers in 30 mins .

but i think people are entitle to spend as much on this game as they like , BUT IT DO NOT MAKE YOU BETTER YOU JUST HAVE MORE MONEY. I love this game

this is just my opinion , and there are 100 different ways of looking at the game good luck to all

maybe if you start attacking and send your cleaner attacks your perspective of the game will change to better.
problem with other players, when it becomes to their disadvantage, they whine and complain.
but when it is to their advantage, they celebrate.
why complain of other players ability to play the game? if they want to spend money on the game, let them be. keep your acct in bird so you enjoy playing events in bird protection and let others enjoy their game like the way they want to.

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