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  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    So wat is new in new update


    1 temporary strong build items for your attack- so i will call this update( hey rubbie whale give us more money)
    So rubbie whales comes again more stonger in attacks, because this items start cost huge amount rubbies.
    And again we dont have eny stronger defence items.So situation for normal and smal rubbie players going again more bad.
    Enymore its not important to have defenders in castle, because whales crash your defence in one sekond and you recruit your defence again half year. So simple solution, main castle 0 defenders and attackers, equiped with stron fire castellan.
    So let whales keep your ressourses you dont need.And all attackrs keep in outpost.Simple and you dont need enymore to improve your main castle, because you never be tath strong as rubbie whales, and you have fire cast , so you will dont burn.

    2 recruitment time in protection mode. Novbody is asking tath, everybody asking shorter recruiment time for defence units!
    So pointless update.

    3. exakt size of decoration- ok useful but very small thing.

    So last update- making again big rubbie whales stronger and stroner and GG fxuks smaal rubbie players and normal players again.Nothing is changing GG simply not listening his customers 
    You keep your attackers in your outposts? Don't you park them anywhere at night? Weird. On this server, your main, ice, sands, fire and your outposts get a hit. This is not the US1 server where only principal castles get burned.
    Outposts are often stronger than main castles, I have never understood the issue with attacking outposts.
    Indeed they are however, sometimes a good mass attack targets all castles. I learned that from an old BM  on this forum.
    Correct, when targeting just one player it's best to hit all 7 castles in the same second, this can easily be done if you know how to time your attacks. That way it's impossible for the defender to send over troops or use his best cast in all 7 places. He will have to sacrifice castles.
    I guess you play on the German server so, I am guessing that the same priinciple applies; hit all. When fujiwara told me about how it was wrong to hit OPs on the US1, I was flabbergasted.
  • poiuyt (WORLD1)poiuyt (WORLD1) Posts: 625
    edited 26.04.2022
    here are some good changes when devs want to hear us
    glad that coin troops has been buffed and i hope high lvls won't be too costy
    why the maneuver has been nerfed and the price of drill constructer been increased
    as for feast we'll be forced to use the fest reduction temp build items to not have food shortage 
    as for new build items idk if it was ruby whale exculsive
    Post edited by poiuyt (WORLD1) on
  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259
    So wat is new in new update


    1 temporary strong build items for your attack- so i will call this update( hey rubbie whale give us more money)
    So rubbie whales comes again more stonger in attacks, because this items start cost huge amount rubbies.
    And again we dont have eny stronger defence items.So situation for normal and smal rubbie players going again more bad.
    Enymore its not important to have defenders in castle, because whales crash your defence in one sekond and you recruit your defence again half year. So simple solution, main castle 0 defenders and attackers, equiped with stron fire castellan.
    So let whales keep your ressourses you dont need.And all attackrs keep in outpost.Simple and you dont need enymore to improve your main castle, because you never be tath strong as rubbie whales, and you have fire cast , so you will dont burn.

    2 recruitment time in protection mode. Novbody is asking tath, everybody asking shorter recruiment time for defence units!
    So pointless update.

    3. exakt size of decoration- ok useful but very small thing.

    So last update- making again big rubbie whales stronger and stroner and GG fxuks smaal rubbie players and normal players again.Nothing is changing GG simply not listening his customers 
    You keep your attackers in your outposts? Don't you park them anywhere at night? Weird. On this server, your main, ice, sands, fire and your outposts get a hit. This is not the US1 server where only principal castles get burned.
    Outposts are often stronger than main castles, I have never understood the issue with attacking outposts.
    Indeed they are however, sometimes a good mass attack targets all castles. I learned that from an old BM  on this forum.
    Correct, when targeting just one player it's best to hit all 7 castles in the same second, this can easily be done if you know how to time your attacks. That way it's impossible for the defender to send over troops or use his best cast in all 7 places. He will have to sacrifice castles.
    I guess you play on the German server so, I am guessing that the same priinciple applies; hit all. When fujiwara told me about how it was wrong to hit OPs on the US1, I was flabbergasted.
    I don't play on the german server.
  • DanOShanter (US1)DanOShanter (US1) US1 Posts: 41
    edited 27.04.2022
    Booooo on the new feasts!  Aside from the fact that it doesn't address the player requests for LONGER TIMES THAN 6 HOURS so the feast doesn't run out in the middle of a large scale recruitment...(I do give you credit for increasing all the other times so they're all 6 hours, but my impression reading the forums was that the main feedback and request was for  >6hr+ times for coin recruiters to be able to recruit large enough amounts of strong coin troops to have a bit more of a chance against ruby recruiters)...   Aside from that, the intent may have been good, but the effect is to make all of the feasts much more expensive so you have to pay significantly more food to get the same bonus you would have gotten with less before the update hit.  Oh, I forgot, you added an option at the top where you can pay 30,000 rubies for a better bonus.    28...no...29...no...oh wtf, let's make it 30,000.

    Before: (from wiki)



    Now: (compiled screenshots as of April 26 2022 10.00pm:

    So for the 600% recruitment speed I had before for 80,000 food, I need to split the difference between a hearty king's feast for 100,000 food and a hearty aristocratic banquet for 150,000 food. 

    Of course, anybody who hasn't been able to get hold of really high level food storage capacity build items or can't use them yet because they're not lv 45+ and can't build the construction yard is automatically excluded from all the feasts except the first two since they won't have more than 80,000 food anyway; and anybody who's under level 33 is basically limited to the first option since they can't upgrade their storehouse beyond 40,000 food, so for me it's a justice issue ... more discouragement for lower lvls to want to stick with the game unless of course they're ruby whales who are rich enough to be able to afford to drop 30,000 rubies on an effect that only lasts 6 hours ...  Now, I'm not as rabidly anti-ruby as some posters here, but IMHO the former 1750 ruby option is reasonably priced for the effect, the new 30,000 is not.
    Post edited by DanOShanter (US1) on
  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 281
    its good to see that now each month for the last few months gge are actually doing things again
    i would think its about time they have mended the bug that stops you selling gems would have be done now as that has been about for 2/3 years now  and a right pain at times
    i see nothing has been done about giving us more silver coins or making crates/carts/ flags cheaper this is stopping players playing the events and why so many new castles give up its ok like a lot of players if you have a good stash  but soon you will start to notice you cant replace the quantity you need to do events
  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259
    When the 80k feast was added to the game, users only had storage capacities of around 80-100k. Everyone was fine with that. Now players can store upwards of 500-600k food and the feasts are 150k, what is the problem? Even people who do not spend money on the game, and I know plenty of them, have storages way bigger than 150k.
  • Acid-Rain (US1)Acid-Rain (US1) US1 Posts: 10
    Got a question about this "There are new strong Temporary Build Items coming your way shortly. These can be placed in the appearance slot of specific buildings. From strengthening your courtyard attack to bolstering your ranged attack, there is going to be something available for everyone. Make sure to keep an eye on our offers in the near future to gather these strong Items!" 

    Where do I find these or have they not been added to the game yet? Also love the new Feast. 150k food is nothing when you can get that amount of food hitting the nomads a few times or a few invasion castles. 30k rubies every 6 hours is a bit too rich for my blood. 
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    Got a question about this "There are new strong Temporary Build Items coming your way shortly. These can be placed in the appearance slot of specific buildings. From strengthening your courtyard attack to bolstering your ranged attack, there is going to be something available for everyone. Make sure to keep an eye on our offers in the near future to gather these strong Items!" 

    Where do I find these or have they not been added to the game yet? Also love the new Feast. 150k food is nothing when you can get that amount of food hitting the nomads a few times or a few invasion castles. 30k rubies every 6 hours is a bit too rich for my blood. 
    You don't even need the nomads for food. Just hit some robber barons in green and the store will be full within 10 minutes.
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    edited 01.05.2022
    Today was first time new temporary items, promissed by last update.
    all things for 7 days.
    300  unit limit on wall   149 000 rubbies
    90% defence in courtyard 169 999 rubbies
    75 flank unit limit attack  148 999 rubbies
    75% combat strength ranged  169 999 rubbies

    This new stron thing for big rubbie players only
    Audi RS SQ8 Mansory cars are super expensive and only for rich people. However, I am not bothered as long as I can get to work by coach.

    However, I do not see them moaning because a few people have the Koennisegg hypercars that cost £4 million.
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  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259

    Audi RS SQ8 Mansory cars are super expensive and only for rich people. However, I am not bothered as long as I can get to work by coach.


       Uhh Audi RS SQ8 Mansory is nothing to compare with Mercedes G AMG ( starts 200 000 usd) series jeep:)
       I have one MB G AMG , and i will say its a best jeep ever made.
    You completely missed the point
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323

    Audi RS SQ8 Mansory cars are super expensive and only for rich people. However, I am not bothered as long as I can get to work by coach.


       Uhh Audi RS SQ8 Mansory is nothing to compare with Mercedes G AMG ( starts 200 000 usd) series jeep:)
       I have one MB G AMG , and i will say its a best jeep ever made.
    You as poseidon pointed out, have completely missed the point entirely. However, I'll explain it to you this way, if someone comes along and has a Koenissegg Jesko which costs in the region of $4 million, are you going to complain about that or are you going to say, fair play. 

    This is what this games about and always has been. There are players like me who are f2p, then there are players like you who probably spend a great deal on rubies then, there are the ruby whales, and without these whales, the game would no longer exist. The amount of money they put into the game goes towards research and development ideas. Without the ruby whales, you would have nothing to moan about. You wouldn't have any mead troops, no apiaries, no level 7 keeps or special tools from the forge.

    You just have to hold your hands up and say fair enough. I've been doing that since day 1 (a great deal longer than you as I used to have an old account back in 2011) and to be honest, I don't begrudge ruby whales anything. Yes, they get taht advantage, but hey ho, if they pay for it, then so be it. Personally though, I get the impression that you are not enjoying the game because you are trying to compete with the whales on your server and you cannot keep up and it can get to people who pay with real cash.
  • Acid-Rain (US1)Acid-Rain (US1) US1 Posts: 10
    Got a question about this "There are new strong Temporary Build Items coming your way shortly. These can be placed in the appearance slot of specific buildings. From strengthening your courtyard attack to bolstering your ranged attack, there is going to be something available for everyone. Make sure to keep an eye on our offers in the near future to gather these strong Items!" 

    Where do I find these or have they not been added to the game yet? Also love the new Feast. 150k food is nothing when you can get that amount of food hitting the nomads a few times or a few invasion castles. 30k rubies every 6 hours is a bit too rich for my blood. 
    You don't even need the nomads for food. Just hit some robber barons in green and the store will be full within 10 minutes.
    Thanks. seasoned player here. 2011-2012 and then this account going on six years. Well aware of RBs lol I was more curious how someone at GGE wrote "there is going to be something available for everyone." Thats just poor phrasing. It left me with the impression they were finally going to make it a little easier for everyone to defend and attack other players along with the events. I understand that the big spenders are what keeps the game free for many to play but there is only a certain amount of unfairness us smaller to medium fish are willing to take before we call it quits. My mistake in assuming anything about GGE before I actually see it in play but if its available for only those willing to spend X amount of dollars they should just come out and say that. Also reason I mentioned food from the events is I saw a bunch of people groaning about the cost. which I think is pretty cheap (150k food) and I wanted to put something positive in the forum about the update, not just the general complaining I seem to do about bugs.
  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259
    edited 01.05.2022

    Audi RS SQ8 Mansory cars are super expensive and only for rich people. However, I am not bothered as long as I can get to work by coach.


       Uhh Audi RS SQ8 Mansory is nothing to compare with Mercedes G AMG ( starts 200 000 usd) series jeep:)
       I have one MB G AMG , and i will say its a best jeep ever made.
    You as poseidon pointed out, have completely missed the point entirely. However, I'll explain it to you this way, if someone comes along and has a Koenissegg Jesko which costs in the region of $4 million, are you going to complain about that or are you going to say, fair play. 

    This is what this games about and always has been. There are players like me who are f2p, then there are players like you who probably spend a great deal on rubies then, there are the ruby whales, and without these whales, the game would no longer exist. The amount of money they put into the game goes towards research and development ideas. Without the ruby whales, you would have nothing to moan about. You wouldn't have any mead troops, no apiaries, no level 7 keeps or special tools from the forge.

    You just have to hold your hands up and say fair enough. I've been doing that since day 1 (a great deal longer than you as I used to have an old account back in 2011) and to be honest, I don't begrudge ruby whales anything. Yes, they get taht advantage, but hey ho, if they pay for it, then so be it. Personally though, I get the impression that you are not enjoying the game because you are trying to compete with the whales on your server and you cannot keep up and it can get to people who pay with real cash.
    And if you dont now how big is income from rubby whales and how big is income from medium rubbie players you cant say tath only rubbie whales keep game running. As in every real businees things are not so black and white and not so easy.
    I never seen income figures but i think without medium rubbie players game will have real problems.
    But at moment is biggest problem exactly medium rubbie players ho stop game. You don have to be a finacila specialist to see tath income from this game coming down, and tahts means bad for players. GG will not but more investments to develop game to marketing, so ecpensis will cut down........If GG puts everything to big players then tath is big mistake,
    You should be familiar with the Pareto principle, also known as the 20/80 rule. It says that in any field with a creative aspect, 20% is accountable for 80%. This can be artists on Spotify and how many streams they get. So 20% of the artists get 80% of all the streams. But it also applies to business in many ways, 20% of your customers make up for 80% of your support emails. 20% of your spending customers make up 80% of your income etc. This also applies to GoodGame Empire.

    The 20/80 rule is actually a little an easier to comprehend version of what it actually is though, in reality, it's far more extreme. It says that the square root of spenders make up for 50% of the income. Let's say you have 10.000 spending players, just 100 of them make up half the income, the other half is accounted for by the other 9900 players.

    As for who keeps the game running, it's all of us, every single player. But the bulk of the money comes from the biggest spenders, that's what's used to develop the game. It wouldn't cost much to just put the game on autopilot and never update it again. 

  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259

    Audi RS SQ8 Mansory cars are super expensive and only for rich people. However, I am not bothered as long as I can get to work by coach.


       Uhh Audi RS SQ8 Mansory is nothing to compare with Mercedes G AMG ( starts 200 000 usd) series jeep:)
       I have one MB G AMG , and i will say its a best jeep ever made.
    You completely missed the point
    Poseidon, and taths all wath you can say about new update?
    As i understand GG will not share with you eny information, so sad so bad:)
    That's incorrect.

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