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New Super league for Whales, What you think Mods and BM's

First off, everyone who is left playing and active in the game is glad GGE FINALLY did a mead fix.  Thanks GGE....   

OK, now to a new suggestion we have been kicking about in the alliance I am in.

The idea is to make a new Super league Event for Whales and Semi Whales who have like 10-15+ million might points and are top on there server.

Entry could also be based on like finishing in the top 10 for "X" amount of events or qualifying with the might point requirement.  Would be limited to level 70 and 950 HoL players.

Of course the rewards would be increased by a factor of 3 or 4 as they would be going Whale vs Whale and most likely spending like a Whale.  Would be interesting to watch also and follow so GGE could have others like me or low buyers be able to log in and see who is leading or such.  Could even put in a requirement for a certain amount of points or such to qualify for any rewards.   That would prevent them from just sand bagging and doing nothing.

Another though is GGE could even make it where they can form a small alliance of like 3 or 4 players max for a certain amount of rubies.  

They could name the new land or event "Whale Island" and have it run for 30 days like the LTPE.  

So if there are 10 servers that could be like 250-400 players for the event or maybe even more.  I do not keep track of how many servers there are.

What you think BM's and Mods?

Other's what you think.



Justinlegoboy @ usa 1
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  • its a great idea, wish i was a whale!
  • I am sure the Art department could even make a special deco for the winner or top 5.   

    As for players worrying about Whales getting such good rewards it is getting to the point a lot of average or F2P players do not care much anymore, we just open gates on their attacks or take the hit and just laugh at the money they spent.
    Justinlegoboy @ usa 1
  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 492
    yeh ok!.

    What do you think outer realms was designed for!

    Suggestions been put forward from the year dot for anything that would take the whales on a different path, event, league, anything. GGE ignored all suggestions, and the whales wouldn't want it either, and who do you think GGE lsten to. You or Them, no prizes for guessing.
  • I understand but do not think the original idea was for Outer's to work like it has.

    As for this one with the "Buy in" needed it would be really for Whales only and then it would have to be Whale vs Whale and see who is the fattest whale.

    And like I mentioned the rewards could be whale worthy so they would join.  You make the rewards good enough they would join I think or at least a decent amount of them.



    Justinlegoboy @ usa 1
  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 492
    I think it was!. the differencr being that it also included the fatest server.

    Players will always chage events to suit themselves especially the ones paying to win.

    Why would a whale want to compete against his own kind, look at what GGE offer now as prizes, and that should tell you something. Even know they have reduced spending on many servers, and trying other things, like moving onto other servers to try while their mains are under the dove. I'm sure if you looked you will see an influx of other language accounts appearing on your own, so it will be another ball game soon!
  • Poseidon X AngelPoseidon X Angel Moderator Posts: 1,439
    A system like this is already in place in some way, the kingdom league does a pretty good job at achieving what you're describing here. However, there's a slight problem with that, currently, most servers have a handful of players who win everything, putting them in their own league just means the next best person will win everything in the lower leagues.

    This system would give these top-tier players an even bigger advantage than what they have now. Think about it like this, currently these players already compete against each other for sub-par rewards. Yet they still win the event every time, if you give them better rewards they will still win,  but now they will get even stronger items.

    The effect this has on smaller players would be very minimal, there aren't a lot of top-tier players so you would lose about 20 people at most. This means that it's still very hard to get into the top 100 for events.

  • WHO CARES?! :warning:
    as long as this ''inflation''  won't affect them it will happen soon or later so the studio won't care about who will win most items!
  • seems a strange comment from a mod, who knows to well that these top players are cheating their way to to the top, using shell accounts to stop other players, who created this big imbalance in the game you have, years a go you could only get a max 90/90 comm and cast, now they have no limits on troop power or comms, yet casts are made irrelevant at 150/150 max. they cannot cope with 11 waves 200 plus comms with 250 cy or more, you have taken the balnce out of the gmae and stacked it in favour of the top tier purposely so no other player or alliance can compete  
    mulam returns @ en 1
  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 492
    edited 06.09.2021
    I would put Mods are in the same group as P2W players, and as such they will also condone GGE's actions against the lower, and F2P players. The one thing they have wrong is that they cannot afford to keep losing players, even f2p players. They seem to be manipulating numbers again with more play to buy players after free software.
    The Kingdon league is manipulated all the time, which of course is all part of the game!. with the league system we find that players even low enders can do well, but only because a lot of the time they are allowed to. How many times have players seen high enders holding back on certain events, just so they get better placement for the next event, yes! its tactics, but nothing to do with the amount of low or high players in that league. Yes the top prizes are always taken by the very high enders, but that would happen in any league, which is why there are super leagues in various sports. I don't think that GGE would even entertain that as the ordinary high enders would then complain.
    GGE have allowed the high enders to much leash now and if it was a 400metre race, they would be finishing, as others were starting. There is absolutaly no enjoyment left now in any aspect of the game, once you have gone past the legendary 70 lvl. This is why new players try it, then leave. RIP gge.
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  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 492
    It seems that the so called top tier players not happy with the steady exit of F2P players, and are intent on hastening their exit from the game, by selecting them as targets for their multi wave attacks. We have all come to expect certain levels of game play from SOME players, within the game, and of course all under the heading of 'ready or not here I come'. I feel for the lesser able more niave players, who would expect some kind of fairness, but of course its a war game, thats fast becoming a suicide mission to even start to play Empire.
    This is more like the truthful answer as to why a whale league would never be accepted, simply because those whales would never be able to survive in a pool full of big fish, without small fry for easy targets.
  • Poseidon X AngelPoseidon X Angel Moderator Posts: 1,439
    I would say that for obvious reasons no one is pleased with a decline in activity... 
  • Poseidon X AngelPoseidon X Angel Moderator Posts: 1,439
    seems a strange comment from a mod, who knows to well that these top players are cheating their way to to the top, using shell accounts to stop other players, who created this big imbalance in the game you have, years a go you could only get a max 90/90 comm and cast, now they have no limits on troop power or comms, yet casts are made irrelevant at 150/150 max. they cannot cope with 11 waves 200 plus comms with 250 cy or more, you have taken the balnce out of the gmae and stacked it in favour of the top tier purposely so no other player or alliance can compete  
    My point was that adding a league in which the top spenders can all compete for better rewards will result in the same people getting even better rewards. It won't do anything to help F2P or smaller spenders.

    If you often score somewhere in the top 200-300 region, a few of the top spenders leaving your bracket and going into their own bracket won't all of a sudden make it so that you can get top 100 rewards. But it does allow these players to now compete and win even stronger items, giving them an even bigger advantage.
  • Poseidon X AngelPoseidon X Angel Moderator Posts: 1,439
    I would put Mods are in the same group as P2W players, and as such they will also condone GGE's actions against the lower, and F2P players. 
    I will be honest with you guys, I don't spend a lot of money on the game, I would say it averages to about 20 euros a month, sometimes more or less. You will never see me condone any actions against smaller spenders or none spenders, I am part of that group.

    The one thing they have wrong is that they cannot afford to keep losing players, even f2p players. 
    Never have I said that the game can afford to keep losing players, no matter their playstyle.

    They seem to be manipulating numbers again with more play to buy players after free software.
    When someone wants there to be evil he will convince himself of said evil. This software just helps people with weaker computers who struggle to run the game in their browser. But sure, they do it inflate the player numbers.

    The Kingdon league is manipulated all the time, which of course is all part of the game!. with the league system we find that players even low enders can do well, but only because a lot of the time they are allowed to. How many times have players seen high enders holding back on certain events, just so they get better placement for the next event, yes! its tactics, but nothing to do with the amount of low or high players in that league. Yes the top prizes are always taken by the very high enders, but that would happen in any league, which is why there are super leagues in various sports. 
    You missed my point here, the point is that splitting the player base further and granting those who currently win all the top rewards even better rewards will not do anything to benefit the small and none spenders, it will only widen the gap between the biggest spenders and the rest of the players.

    GGE have allowed the high enders to much leash now and if it was a 400metre race, they would be finishing, as others were starting. There is absolutaly no enjoyment left now in any aspect of the game, once you have gone past the legendary 70 lvl. This is why new players try it, then leave. RIP gge.
    Games like these obviously aren't for everyone, it's a shame that the player base has shrunken in the last few months but that's just the way it is. If you dislike the game I don't blame you for leaving, it's exactly what you should do if you're not having a great time. After all, we play games for our enjoyment.
  • poseidon, then start listening and stop the cheating, stop the multi accounts, dont come back with report it we will investigate as its a waste of time, you know its happening, you play the game so you must see it it is blatant and obvious, but the real reason none of you stop it is because it brings in money, so GGE breach there own rules and u turn a blind eye, hand over eyes i cannot see multis but i know your there   
    mulam returns @ en 1
  • You all are not seeing or grasping even what I am really trying to propose.

    If you want I will do it again but you all are missing what type of event I am trying to get done.

    You could call it a super league or whatever and it is not intended to take them from KL at all.

    I will let you 3 or 4 players go back to you back and forth.




    Justinlegoboy @ usa 1
  • Poseidon X AngelPoseidon X Angel Moderator Posts: 1,439
    You all are not seeing or grasping even what I am really trying to propose.

    If you want I will do it again but you all are missing what type of event I am trying to get done.

    You could call it a super league or whatever and it is not intended to take them from KL at all.
    I know...
  • you know but u dont care just as you know whats going on with the cheating in the game basically u just dont care 
    mulam returns @ en 1
  • Poseidon X AngelPoseidon X Angel Moderator Posts: 1,439
    you know but u dont care just as you know whats going on with the cheating in the game basically u just dont care 
    I don't work for the studio.
  • Pisky (GB1)Pisky (GB1) GB1 Posts: 492
    cough, cough

     ;););)  
  • flug (NL1)flug (NL1) NL1 Posts: 1,511

    WHO CARES?! :warning:
    as long as this ''inflation''  won't affect them it will happen soon or later so the studio won't care about who will win most items!
    as long the money is rolling to them ;)
    flug @ nl 1

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