Blacksmith UPDATE

Wiglema (NL1) · 12.06.2021

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

Poseidon · 12.06.2021

Wiglema (NL1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

There was one mainly focussed around Empire a week ago. There was another one scheduled for E4K for last Friday but that one got postponed. It was mentioned here because the games are very similar and the community management was going to discuss the storm island and blacksmith changes.

~~TULPAR~~ (TR1) · 13.06.2021

I spent all the gold and silver I had.

But I couldn't reach 175,000 points for decor.

Do you know how I can earn that decor?
@Poseidon X Angel

dandelion1958 (GB1) · 13.06.2021

AlamuT (TR1) said:

I spent all the gold and silver I had.
But I couldn't reach 175,000 points for decor.
Do you know how I can earn that decor?
@Poseidon X Angel

without chests is hard but if you are careful with tools you could still do trains of attacks on khan and gain about 200 points at a time - you'd just need to do a lot more attacks !

Wiglema (NL1) · 13.06.2021

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

There was one mainly focussed around Empire a week ago. There was another one scheduled for E4K for last Friday but that one got postponed. It was mentioned here because the games are very similar and the community management was going to discuss the storm island and blacksmith changes.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.

Where can we find the summary that @BM_Daisho mentioned?
Would be nice to also have a summary of the E4K once it's been held, for those who can't attend.

Poseidon · 13.06.2021

Wiglema (NL1) said:

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

There was one mainly focussed around Empire a week ago. There was another one scheduled for E4K for last Friday but that one got postponed. It was mentioned here because the games are very similar and the community management was going to discuss the storm island and blacksmith changes.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.
Where can we find the summary that @BM_Daisho mentioned?
Would be nice to also have a summary of the E4K once it's been held, for those who can't attend.

There was a thread on here with a summary of what was said, but it's gone now. To give a quick rundown of what was said.
The changes won't be reverted in a week, the studio believes they are necessary. The changes have been made to combat the massive amounts of nomad and samurai tokens people hold as these make it very hard to bring in new items. If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.
They also mentioned the samurai event will run in July.

dandelion1958 (GB1) · 13.06.2021

how can we use the samurai tools if the event is not run - and for one only ever had about 100k silver and 150k gold at a time - then spent ! I also asked previously why the FR and UK servers were Targeted first - any comment about my request for compensation for the blatant discrimination !

flug (NL1) · 13.06.2021

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

how can we use the samurai tools if the event is not run - and for one only ever had about 100k silver and 150k gold at a time - then spent ! I also asked previously why the FR and UK servers were Targeted first - any comment about my request for compensation for the blatant discrimination !

so it gets a bit stuck. the changes have been made to dwindle the stocks that players have in terms of the nomads tokens, and samurai tokens . but instead of less , multiple players get more tokens because there is almost nothing to spend . (don't buy stupid things anyway) for samu ........when event don't run , players don't get tokens to fill up stock

))))

Andrew Milner (US1) · 13.06.2021

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

There was one mainly focussed around Empire a week ago. There was another one scheduled for E4K for last Friday but that one got postponed. It was mentioned here because the games are very similar and the community management was going to discuss the storm island and blacksmith changes.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.
Where can we find the summary that @BM_Daisho mentioned?
Would be nice to also have a summary of the E4K once it's been held, for those who can't attend.

There was a thread on here with a summary of what was said, but it's gone now. To give a quick rundown of what was said.
The changes won't be reverted in a week, the studio believes they are necessary. The changes have been made to combat the massive amounts of nomad and samurai tokens people hold as these make it very hard to bring in new items. If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.
They also mentioned the samurai event will run in July.

Just curious, but why was the wheel of fortune tickets and the berimond cart boosters effected as well?

TESLAIBLAZE (TR1) · 13.06.2021

Poseidon X Angel said:
There was a thread on here with a summary of what was said, but it's gone now. To give a quick rundown of what was said.
The changes won't be reverted in a week, the studio believes they are necessary. The changes have been made to combat the massive amounts of nomad and samurai tokens people hold as these make it very hard to bring in new items. If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.
They also mentioned the samurai event will run in July.

no, you didn't try to fix the imbalances. Your goal is only money. there is no other reason.

Poseidon · 13.06.2021

TESLAIBLAZE (TR1) said:

Poseidon X Angel said:
There was a thread on here with a summary of what was said, but it's gone now. To give a quick rundown of what was said.
The changes won't be reverted in a week, the studio believes they are necessary. The changes have been made to combat the massive amounts of nomad and samurai tokens people hold as these make it very hard to bring in new items. If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.
They also mentioned the samurai event will run in July.

no, you didn't try to fix the imbalances. Your goal is only money. there is no other reason.

oh well

Howling73 (US1) · 13.06.2021

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

There was one mainly focussed around Empire a week ago. There was another one scheduled for E4K for last Friday but that one got postponed. It was mentioned here because the games are very similar and the community management was going to discuss the storm island and blacksmith changes.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.
Where can we find the summary that @BM_Daisho mentioned?
Would be nice to also have a summary of the E4K once it's been held, for those who can't attend.

There was a thread on here with a summary of what was said, but it's gone now. To give a quick rundown of what was said.
The changes won't be reverted in a week, the studio believes they are necessary. The changes have been made to combat the massive amounts of nomad and samurai tokens people hold as these make it very hard to bring in new items. If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.
They also mentioned the samurai event will run in July.

As I suggested the other week, if the true problem is the tokens/tablets, then leaving the blacksmith as was, but putting a cap on the amount one can stockpile similar to the caps on time skips will address the situation quicker and fairly for all.

It sounds like this suggestion has not been considered by those that make the rules, and leads me to believe the only thing unbalanced of concern to gge/stillfront, is related to revenue, with event tool stockpiles being identified as a scapegoat.

At this point, my bird is up in a few weeks, as will be my time with this game.

commando (US1) · 13.06.2021

i was averaging about 40 mil loot a week before the blacksmith update. loot sheet came out today and i was under 3 mil for the week. my game activity has really declined. am sitting at home with a ruptured achilles and have nothing to do but turn on the computer, log into the game, see the ads and start doing sodukos or crosswords ...then remember before i go to bed at night that i have GGE up on the computer.

Wasso (INT3) · 14.06.2021

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

Poseidon X Angel said:

Wiglema (NL1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Although I wasn't at the Empire Q&A Discussion, someone took notes and I read up the summary from it. The information that the CM gave was very interesting and the people in the Q&A received it very well. Nothing like this has really ever happened before and overall people said it was a good "chat" between community members and the CM. I don't think talking to a Stillfront employee would make the situation any clearer, the CM who was there said everything that needed to be said.

I wasn't at the audio discussion either, but I thought it was postponed?

There was one mainly focussed around Empire a week ago. There was another one scheduled for E4K for last Friday but that one got postponed. It was mentioned here because the games are very similar and the community management was going to discuss the storm island and blacksmith changes.

Ah, thanks for clarifying.
Where can we find the summary that @BM_Daisho mentioned?
Would be nice to also have a summary of the E4K once it's been held, for those who can't attend.

If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.

Complete balderdash.

That is the equivalent of Maserati saying they are going delay the launch of the MC20 because too many people have the cash in the bank to buy them immediately.

ALL the game currency has been legitimately "earned" by the players. That there was nothing to SPEND the tabs/tokens on is NOT THE FAULT of the Players. That GGS made it possible to get LOADS of tabs/tokens BY PLAYING THE GAME AS DESIGNED is NOT THE FAULT of the Players.

Once again, a simple solution that seems to be ignored by GGS is to introduce these mythical "New Items" into the Nomad Shop and put a limit on them. There are already limits on how many you can get of certain items. Make them EXPENSIVE and LIMITED. Sure, that you run Nomads CONSTANTLY would make them available TO THAT LIMIT fairly regularly. How to address THAT issue...... Hmmmm.......... HOW??????? Oh yeah, isn't there another event that can run every other time opposite to Nomads?

What was that called again??????????????

Yeah, RUN THE SAMURAI!

AND put some mythical "New Item" in there with the same price and limits as the "New" Nomad items.

To say that those who EARNED the Tabs and Token should NOT BE ALLOWED to spend them on new items, UNTILL and UNLESS EVERYONE lowers their Bank Balance, is the biggest SLAP in the FACE in quite some time............

commando (US1) · 14.06.2021

i still can't understand how GGE is fixing the too many khan chests in the game by offering a 2,000% khan chests looted bonus if you buy their event pack. it seems to me that GGE is creating a bigger problem with that pack if they really meant that there are too many in the game.

Wasso (INT3) · 14.06.2021

commando (US1) said:

i still can't understand how GGE is fixing the too many khan chests in the game by offering a 2,000% khan chests looted bonus if you buy their event pack. it seems to me that GGE is creating a bigger problem with that pack if they really meant that there are too many in the game.

It isn't the number of chests that are the problem, it is the number of tabs that are looted as a result of using too many chests. In their "mind"(?) , there is a difference.

After all, they are happy to sell you all the chests you want to buy. Just please do not use them............

ost3 (SKN1) · 14.06.2021

my posts about dissatisfaction around the new blacksmith are being deleted all the time.

doing censorship?

GG need to understand the players better. they are not in line with us with this change.

*

forestw (AU1) · 14.06.2021

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

BM_Daisho said:

Hi all,

These were intentionally removed from the blacksmith on the GB1 and FR1 server ONLY: 30 minute skips, 60 minute skips, 5h skips, 24 hour skips, Horsetail Banners, Kings Banner, Royal Khan Chest, Chest of the Shogun and Dignity of Berimond.

All things being sold in the blacksmith have always been subject to change.

I don't have any other explanation as to why they have been removed but feedback/complaints has been put in to get this reversed as a lot of people (including myself) disagree with this.

Am sorry but this is discrimination ! am forwarding a complaint to someone official - probably trading standard at first - might get the game banned in the uk but at least would make the point !

Whitetiger has asked me to respond to this threat of yours, to ban the GGE in the UK.
First, Mrs. Lesch has had tea on at least three occasions with the Queen. Do you really think the Royal Family would ban her sons game because you are upset about something?
Secondly, this game is not made to fit every whim of yours. Tommy created this as a way to keep people occupied while our Great Leader Kim Jong Un conquers the world. It is hoped that some will learn about the way of Boo Masters while they play the game, so they can be good citizens in the future...but that is all.
Third, Tommy is not your servant or slave. He is an intelligent, hard working young man who literally works 20 hours a day in his mums basement on the computer running this game. Does he make mistakes? Yes, we all do. Is he a greedy capitalist intent on squeezing pennies out of people? Of course not, that is why he does not charge a single penny to play this game.

Dark mind (SKN1) · 14.06.2021

Poseidon X Angel said:

The changes won't be reverted in a week, the studio believes they are necessary. The changes have been made to combat the massive amounts of nomad and samurai tokens people hold as these make it very hard to bring in new items. If everyone can instantly buy these items they will be very unbalanced.
They also mentioned the samurai event will run in July.

WTF, that is the most stupid thing i ever have seen from a GGE employ and that says a lot... They have totaly lost it...
The reason players have lots of this tokens is because we DONT HAVE ANYTHING TO BUY FOR IT!!!!!! Because of GGE neglect to add more inntresting items to use them on..

They are so not in sync with the players, they act more or less like we are just garbage and just have to accept all the crap they do with the game...

I challenge you all to send mail to Stillfront to complain, go to Stillfront's web page on to contact-us and send mail.
We can not sitt still to see they are killing the game. Forget to try support/forum/discord, that is just waste of time.
With the attitude shown in the quote above, its clear that they dont listen to us players no mather what..

I tried to keep away from commenting but this just got me so freaking pissed... Now I go fishing again instead of using any money on Empire, or see if i can find my old playstation...

Wiglema (NL1) · 14.06.2021

Let me try to summarize the update in two pictures:

Blacksmith UPDATE

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