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Debate about the recently added advertisements

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  • Sxlaxs (DE1)Sxlaxs (DE1) DE1 Posts: 12
    edited 18.11.2020
    I had to laugh, really.

    I don't twist anything and you can't interpret it in any other way. It's EU law, this is not down to interpretation. And as the UK isn't part of the EU anymore, you can't even do that. You can’t sue a foreign company, that's easy. And should be logical to anyone. 

    Servers are hosted in Germany, you are not even a customer as you don't pay for anything. You are a user. You use a service of a foreign company. You access a server hosted in Germany. 

    These ToS were made by lawyers, amusing to see that you know it better ;)

    And an other article for you https://www.termsfeed.com/blog/governing-law-terms-conditions/ No law, which isn't Germanies, is important here. This is a fact, and not even you, a know it all, can deny it.
    But I know what you'll answer anyway, some twisted text, which has no valid argument. Learn how to debate, or don't join the debate.  :*

    You know, I talk for myself, I never say others are my opinion. This is a forum and everyone is allowed to express his opinion. Still, these are facts and it's not an opinion. But weren't you the one who talks "for the whole community"? Grow up, accept opinions, read and educate yourself. You critize everything, why? Is it worth it? Do you have to put mods down? Do you have to waste your time insulting mods, cms or ggs staff? Why waste your time on something you don't agree with and probably will critize in every way. People like you, which are forgetting about the good things really quick and don't even appreciate the steps in the right direction or the things cms do when they paid out 1st rewards for the kl, are hypocrites.
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  • Druids (GB1)Druids (GB1) GB1 Posts: 257
    Some of what I would like to say about you or call you would get me banned. I would also not be very surprised to find out that you are somehow either one of the people you list, or involved with, in some kind. When you look at the date your profile was created I would also presume to say that it was created specifically for this particular line of attack, argument, and topic which supports my theory on your probable real account or identity, and why you created it. So I feel sort of flattered, that you went to those lengths for an additional dialogue, but you wouldn't know that unless mind reading was another of your accomplishments. You don't know what knowledge I have or have access to so you have no right to make any assumptions about me, based on posts on a forum, but would be typical of the sort of person I and probably others think that you probably are, and you have been liked to.

    You still haven't got the sense that the leather in your shoes has got, with regards to advertising laws, countries, or even rules governing individual servers, and I have no concerns to discuss it further with you. Peoples opinions and views work both ways, just as you have, so do I and others. I am quite well educated and read thank you, and quite well grown up, any more and I would be in trouble, unlike it seems that you may be. I only criticise people that I feel have done it to me and its a return of the compliment, and it seems that you have also somehow turned it into a multiple, rather than singular. I rarely forget anything and I know my directions and way around 

    Looking at your comments I would say that you are not a lover of Brits or the Uk, although that's not really a problem, as others probably feel the same about you, and you are not doing yourself or others any favours by being very close to the line. I also think that I would hazard an educated guess as to who and why you are so agitated and outspoken about this topic, but will not say so in case I am accused of upsetting someone.

    You have a nice day, now....bye


  • Philt123 (GB1)Philt123 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,839
    Game is growing that fast GOODGAMEGREED want more money.
    Had to laugh at game is growing fast GGE must think all 
    the thousands of SHELL accounts means it's growing . 

    Why don't gge let all the shells and dodgy accounts get free rubies every day
    free wood stone food to help them grow even faster. also give them free doves
    so they can put one shell in to dove and then start another shell at same time.

    one last thing what the hell are they smoking in GGE 
    Growing could also mean that its content has greatly increased.
    But according to a stillfront report the player count has also gone up a bit.
    The player count has gone up because there are now hundeds of new shells being made 
    That's not how they determine the player count, so no.
    The daily active unique players have gone up.

    Thats a very interesting post, that suggests that GGE can actually identify unique players if thats the case can you tell me why there are so many multis and shells in the game, becasue by your own admission GGE can identify who is runnign an account.  

    Surely you are not suggesting that GGE are allowing Shells / multis they know all about are you ?
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  • Philt123 (GB1)Philt123 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,839
    I just used the term Stillfront chose...
    DUA, daily active users, generally speaking these are unique players.

    Shells are a problem, but they don't make up for half the player count.

    The issue with banning shells is that you need concrete evidence, which is often hard to get.


    For once we agree, they make up much much more than half the player count, its been a very long time since they were just half
    Philt123 @ en 1
  • gazz65 (GB1)gazz65 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 619
    I had to laugh, really.

    I don't twist anything and you can't interpret it in any other way. It's EU law, this is not down to interpretation. And as the UK isn't part of the EU anymore, you can't even do that. You can’t sue a foreign company, that's easy. And should be logical to anyone. 

    Servers are hosted in Germany, you are not even a customer as you don't pay for anything. You are a user. You use a service of a foreign company. You access a server hosted in Germany. 

    These ToS were made by lawyers, amusing to see that you know it better ;)

    And an other article for you https://www.termsfeed.com/blog/governing-law-terms-conditions/ No law, which isn't Germanies, is important here. This is a fact, and not even you, a know it all, can deny it.
    But I know what you'll answer anyway, some twisted text, which has no valid argument. Learn how to debate, or don't join the debate.  :*

    You know, I talk for myself, I never say others are my opinion. This is a forum and everyone is allowed to express his opinion. Still, these are facts and it's not an opinion. But weren't you the one who talks "for the whole community"? Grow up, accept opinions, read and educate yourself. You critize everything, why? Is it worth it? Do you have to put mods down? Do you have to waste your time insulting mods, cms or ggs staff? Why waste your time on something you don't agree with and probably will critize in every way. People like you, which are forgetting about the good things really quick and don't even appreciate the steps in the right direction or the things cms do when they paid out 1st rewards for the kl, are hypocrites.
    GOOD THINGS 
    have I missed these GOOD THINGS , must have been asleep when these came along.
    goodgamegreed don't do anything good for players and they don't listen players.

    outers constant mess ups . beri messed up . spy reports messed up , bugs and bugs and bugs
    ads what no one wants apart from MODS and people working for ggg . 



  • bernhardt (US1)bernhardt (US1) US1 Posts: 946
    This legal discussion has been so Euro-centric on Saxo's part despite the use of other countries.  As a US player and resident, I can tell you that the TOS and any other disclaimer type language pretty much means nothing if the abuse/neglect is significant as the courts here have deemed them non-binding since nobody really reads them(let alone with a lawyer present).  Meaning I can sue them here and make them come to me to defend the case.  Mom and Pop operations in a foreign(to the US) country are more likely to have their ToS/disclaimer upheld since the scale of the case is likely to be smaller.  GGE/Stillfront is not a mom & pop operation.  I will say that GGE/Stillfront probably pay more attention to things like the various advertising laws than they do to mere financial laws where player finances are concerned for what I would think are obvious reasons.

    As to the ad in question, I haven't seen it that I can recall.  Seen a bunch of ads that definitely aren't for this continent and other ads that make me wonder just what demographic the advertisers think they're reaching is.
  • Wiglema (NL1)Wiglema (NL1) NL1 Posts: 635
    Now correct me if I am wrong, but, ads should be based of your cookies and thus what you are interested in. Second, if you report and ad it's an annoyance towards the people who bought the ad spot, not the ones providing them.
    Errr.....  I suspect you are wrong..... except for the "should be" part

    Think the game is spamming same adverts to all and I've not observed any of the sort of clever targeting using cookies that you get on even the most basic one make car forum.

    Day trading, forex, international shipping and lots of weird German toilet fixings  - the latter leading me to think that a) thier covid panic buying must mean toilet tissue is a scarce commodity or b) bidet's didn't catch on for them in  the 80's


    Put it this way....I don't think the advertisers are getting value for their money.... which I'm guessing they know and GGE aren't getting paid top dollar (well fraction of a cent...) for this : sad if it means GGE can't aford to develop the game and driving people away because of it.

    Perhaps different ads on different servers?
    I always get the same two:

     

    I don't think I have seen any other ads in GGE (except for a totally black screen when an ad apparently doesn't load).
    Looks like they really want me to move to another game.  :D



    Wiglema (NL1)
  • Wasso (INT3)Wasso (INT3) INT3 Posts: 2,942
    Now correct me if I am wrong, but, ads should be based of your cookies and thus what you are interested in. Second, if you report and ad it's an annoyance towards the people who bought the ad spot, not the ones providing them.
    Errr.....  I suspect you are wrong..... except for the "should be" part

    Think the game is spamming same adverts to all and I've not observed any of the sort of clever targeting using cookies that you get on even the most basic one make car forum.

    Day trading, forex, international shipping and lots of weird German toilet fixings  - the latter leading me to think that a) thier covid panic buying must mean toilet tissue is a scarce commodity or b) bidet's didn't catch on for them in  the 80's


    Put it this way....I don't think the advertisers are getting value for their money.... which I'm guessing they know and GGE aren't getting paid top dollar (well fraction of a cent...) for this : sad if it means GGE can't aford to develop the game and driving people away because of it.

    Perhaps different ads on different servers?
    I always get the same two:

     

    I don't think I have seen any other ads in GGE (except for a totally black screen when an ad apparently doesn't load).
    Looks like they really want me to move to another game.  :D



    Many alternate game site ads on INT3 as well............
    Good night.
    Sleep well.
    I'll most likely kill you in the morning.



  • PJH_ (GB1)PJH_ (GB1) GB1 Posts: 352
    Talking about laws, lets think about cookies...

    Anyone actually seen any cookie warings or explicit consent about cookies from these new adverts??

    "Third-Party Cookies are set by websites other than the one you are currently visiting. In our case, websites from which such pictures and GIFs come from may store third-party cookies on your web browser. We want to make it very clear that as long as you don't open any off-site content, you will not receive those cookies. This means that only if you clicked the content itself to open it in a separate tab you will get the cookies.

    Since we don't want to eliminate opportunities for sharing content from third-party websites, we would like to warn you and to reassure you that third-party cookies are not stored on your web browsers unless you interact with their content." - this all from the announcement page.

    I'm not sure that gets around the sort of explicit consent that UK, EU European, and maybe other jurisdiction, laws insist on around cookies...and while the above was phrased in terms of user generated content, seems some legal ass-covering may well be going on about the new adverts..... that GGE maybe hasn't got technically quite right yet?,

  • Crom CruachCrom Cruach Community Manager Posts: 1,275
    Thanks for the feedback on the thread, I'll summarise it and bring this to Studio. However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.
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  • Druids (GB1)Druids (GB1) GB1 Posts: 257
    Well that's a nice definite answer 

    @Crom Cruach
    However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.

    Make the whole thread pointless, and as you are so definitely, definite in your answer, why are we even bothering with the feedback. This is exactly what forum regulars and complaints are all about, that no one in GGE is listening, or even interested in much of players input into the game.
  • Well that's a nice definite answer 

    @Crom Cruach
    However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.

    Make the whole thread pointless, and as you are so definitely, definite in your answer, why are we even bothering with the feedback. This is exactly what forum regulars and complaints are all about, that no one in GGE is listening, or even interested in much of players input into the game.
    Despite the ads not going anywhere, there are still possibilities to fine tune them so they don't obstruct gameplay as much as they sometimes do now.
  • Well that's a nice definite answer 

    @Crom Cruach
    However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.

    Make the whole thread pointless, and as you are so definitely, definite in your answer, why are we even bothering with the feedback. This is exactly what forum regulars and complaints are all about, that no one in GGE is listening, or even interested in much of players input into the game.
    Despite the ads not going anywhere, there are still possibilities to fine tune them so they don't obstruct gameplay as much as they sometimes do now.

    I'm still getting them despite having bought in a previous outers after they were added - has this been fixed or still ongoing ?
    Plus alliance tournament rewards still no been paid out ! over a week now !

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    Am still playing 6 years on ! - hi lvl 800 on new yrs eve (2017/18) !

    Leading the Targaryens - PS interested in joining - PM any officer in Game :-)

    PS in top200 on uk 1 never botted or used a VPN - that's why it took 5 yrs to get to leg 800
  • The Torrent (GB1)The Torrent (GB1) GB1 Posts: 667
    Thanks for the feedback on the thread, I'll summarise it and bring this to Studio. However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.
    oh but the players are.

    WATCHING GGE


    autocorrect changes all crom-unfriendly words to crom on gge cuz groms got something about words that are even allowed in U rated films
    i fill forward all crom unfriendly words to crom as a nice person as i know crom loves dealing with that stuff.
    semi retired and sick of game - message me in game if u wanna kamikaze ur acc with me.

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  • Kellan (US1)Kellan (US1) US1 Posts: 16
    Thanks for the feedback on the thread, I'll summarise it and bring this to Studio. However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.
    oh but the players are.
    My exact thoughts xD
  • Crom CruachCrom Cruach Community Manager Posts: 1,275

    I'm still getting them despite having bought in a previous outers after they were added - has this been fixed or still ongoing ?
    Plus alliance tournament rewards still no been paid out ! over a week now !

    Please contact Customer Support, we've paid out the prizes.
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  • dandelion1958 (GB1)dandelion1958 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 675
    edited 26.11.2020

    I'm still getting them despite having bought in a previous outers after they were added - has this been fixed or still ongoing ?
    Plus alliance tournament rewards still no been paid out ! over a week now !

    Please contact Customer Support, we've paid out the prizes.

    Just checked and no one in my alliance has had them yet - i have a ticket on this do i need to raise another or message back - again ?

    @Poseidon X Angel  ? was not able to tag crom - very laggy gameplay at mo !
    dandelion1958 @ en 1

    Am still playing 6 years on ! - hi lvl 800 on new yrs eve (2017/18) !

    Leading the Targaryens - PS interested in joining - PM any officer in Game :-)

    PS in top200 on uk 1 never botted or used a VPN - that's why it took 5 yrs to get to leg 800
  • sapho (GB1)sapho (GB1) GB1 Posts: 15
    I have bought rubies , twice , recently , only to find that Beyond the horizon , and just entered The outer realms , to find out that neither of these events are advert free, returned to main from the Outer realms to find what , F1111ng adverts for german bidets, GGE return my money, I shall soon be quitting the game if you can sort your shit out
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  • The Torrent (GB1)The Torrent (GB1) GB1 Posts: 667
    Thanks for the feedback on the thread, I'll summarise it and bring this to Studio. However the advertisements aren't going anywhere.
    oh but the players are.
    They even help you find a new place.............


    we cant talk about other games on these forums but they actively advertise them? Hmmmmmmmmm lmao.

    WATCHING GGE


    autocorrect changes all crom-unfriendly words to crom on gge cuz groms got something about words that are even allowed in U rated films
    i fill forward all crom unfriendly words to crom as a nice person as i know crom loves dealing with that stuff.
    semi retired and sick of game - message me in game if u wanna kamikaze ur acc with me.

    Quoting does NOT ping the poster. Please @ me if you want my attention. Use " for names with spaces, e.g @ "The Torrent (GB1)"


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