So tired of crappy FC/BC targets

Wasso (INT3) · 11.05.2020

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

bucketofsquid (US1) said:

I too, am not pleased with the FC/BC garbage castles. I used to dethrone with Khan medallions but last couple of BC/FC have not had that option. 25K horsetail banners and nothing to use them on. Can we go back to having them run by players on other servers?

You DO know that never actually happened, right? The original design was for one server to COPY the defense setup from the other server and use that for the event run. Even the attacks were to be based on attacks that were setup and launched on the opposing server. But, it wasn't live.

I DO remember when they announced who the opposing server was. USA1 vs DEU1 was always the one I looked forward to the most. The opposing server would rotate and you would get a different level of skill. Of course when I played on ASIA1 the mystical ASIA2 was always the opponent.

I suppose it became too much of a hassle to copy / update every run, so they just started using the same file over and over again. Of course, that led to the "tailoring" of the Castles to what GGS wanted the event to be. Another GRINDfest. You CAN get the occasional BIG castle still. But, the event is exactly the way GGS wants it. You want to get ahead? Get more points? BUY THE BOOSTERS. Hit 100's or 1000's of Castles, just like hitting the Nomad Tents.

It isn't about getting big glory in the fewest hits possible. It is about SPENDING what you can to get where you want to be.....

I think most players still think that we were actually hitting other players when this would be totally impossible. However, i would have to disagree with the DE1 server. I went up against them and most of them were defending with attackers or attacking with defenders (which was often the case or using the worst attack troops available) and that to me, from what I know about the German server is pretty much a lie. Glory today where you could get millions is just not worth it. Glory, back in the old days was earned and it was earned through sheer hard graft. You had to PvP until you were tired to get any decent glory.

Anyway, in my opinion, it is time to do away with the FIs/Crows event as they are pointless unless it is for someone to show off their 3 million hit with 9 waves. They should bring back the game as it was, 1 capital in each kingdom and let the alliances battle for it. One metro, let the players battle for it, one KT and let the players battle for it. That way PvP will come back.

The DE1 service "defense" and "attack" setups you are referring to were likely after they started "tailoring" them. I also remember getting the attacks of all KG Scouts. SMH

Glory clearly isn't what it used to be. Really, the titles are more of an indication of activity than anything else. That is why you see a lot of "Players" using the Beri Title. This hides the fact that the 70/345 account is only at a Marquis title. IMPOSSIBLE for any ACTIVE player to sit at that level. King is only 65k glory. You can get that in a couple flagged hits.

PvP will only be played by those who want to. The Majority are Event Based now. Just the way it is.....

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) · 11.05.2020

Wasso (INT3) said:

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

bucketofsquid (US1) said:

I too, am not pleased with the FC/BC garbage castles. I used to dethrone with Khan medallions but last couple of BC/FC have not had that option. 25K horsetail banners and nothing to use them on. Can we go back to having them run by players on other servers?

You DO know that never actually happened, right? The original design was for one server to COPY the defense setup from the other server and use that for the event run. Even the attacks were to be based on attacks that were setup and launched on the opposing server. But, it wasn't live.

I DO remember when they announced who the opposing server was. USA1 vs DEU1 was always the one I looked forward to the most. The opposing server would rotate and you would get a different level of skill. Of course when I played on ASIA1 the mystical ASIA2 was always the opponent.

I suppose it became too much of a hassle to copy / update every run, so they just started using the same file over and over again. Of course, that led to the "tailoring" of the Castles to what GGS wanted the event to be. Another GRINDfest. You CAN get the occasional BIG castle still. But, the event is exactly the way GGS wants it. You want to get ahead? Get more points? BUY THE BOOSTERS. Hit 100's or 1000's of Castles, just like hitting the Nomad Tents.

It isn't about getting big glory in the fewest hits possible. It is about SPENDING what you can to get where you want to be.....

I think most players still think that we were actually hitting other players when this would be totally impossible. However, i would have to disagree with the DE1 server. I went up against them and most of them were defending with attackers or attacking with defenders (which was often the case or using the worst attack troops available) and that to me, from what I know about the German server is pretty much a lie. Glory today where you could get millions is just not worth it. Glory, back in the old days was earned and it was earned through sheer hard graft. You had to PvP until you were tired to get any decent glory.

Anyway, in my opinion, it is time to do away with the FIs/Crows event as they are pointless unless it is for someone to show off their 3 million hit with 9 waves. They should bring back the game as it was, 1 capital in each kingdom and let the alliances battle for it. One metro, let the players battle for it, one KT and let the players battle for it. That way PvP will come back.

The DE1 service "defense" and "attack" setups you are referring to were likely after they started "tailoring" them. I also remember getting the attacks of all KG Scouts. SMH

Glory clearly isn't what it used to be. Really, the titles are more of an indication of activity than anything else. That is why you see a lot of "Players" using the Beri Title. This hides the fact that the 70/345 account is only at a Marquis title. IMPOSSIBLE for any ACTIVE player to sit at that level. King is only 65k glory. You can get that in a couple flagged hits.

PvP will only be played by those who want to. The Majority are Event Based now. Just the way it is.....

You will see this a great deal if you have ever been on UK1. These are obviously shell accounts for some reason or another. I'll let you into another secret, it is next to impossible to have the glory rank of Baron, but I found one in a major alliance, and not only that, they also had a capital. I brought this up on this forum and guess what, a couple of days later he took the capital from that shell account and that player has finally gone into ruins. This very same player who hates cheats obviously had keys to that account.

Anyway, just for info about the PvP, I think it would be best to reduce the amount of Centre of Powers on the maps. I counted altogether on the US server:

5 Capitals in green.
3 capitals in ice,
2 capitals in sands
1 capital in fire.
31 Metropolises in Green
50+ KTs.

This is ridiculous!! In the old days, there was only 1 capital situated at 657:657. If GGE wanted to make money, all they would have to do is reduce the capitals to 1, that way if an alliance really wants it, then they can take it and try to defend it.

bucketofsquid (US1) · 12.05.2020

Wasso (INT3) said:
You DO know that never actually happened, right? The original design was for one server to COPY the defense setup from the other server and use that for the event run. Even the attacks were to be based on attacks that were setup and launched on the opposing server. But, it wasn't live.

I DO remember when they announced who the opposing server was. USA1 vs DEU1 was always the one I looked forward to the most. The opposing server would rotate and you would get a different level of skill. Of course when I played on ASIA1 the mystical ASIA2 was always the opponent.

I suppose it became too much of a hassle to copy / update every run, so they just started using the same file over and over again. Of course, that led to the "tailoring" of the Castles to what GGS wanted the event to be. Another GRINDfest. You CAN get the occasional BIG castle still. But, the event is exactly the way GGS wants it. You want to get ahead? Get more points? BUY THE BOOSTERS. Hit 100's or 1000's of Castles, just like hitting the Nomad Tents.

It isn't about getting big glory in the fewest hits possible. It is about SPENDING what you can to get where you want to be.....

I did not know that but it does make a lot of sense given the evidence. Castles have gotten worse on a regular basis and the best I've seen in months is still less than 2k defenders. Last time they "improved the castles" the smallest went from in the 300s to in the 400s. Hardly an improvement when they cut the rate of decent targets.

CommanderCake (US1) · 12.05.2020

I'm trying to play in the bloodcrow event and there are no castles showing to attack. When i click "show me" it says "No castle Lords found to attack".
Thanks RW

Wasso (INT3) · 12.05.2020

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

This very same player who hates cheats obviously had keys to that account.

You will find that type of hypocrisy is rampant. I was chatting with another Player (in another Alliance) a few weeks ago about why I play solo. I always like to see if they will offer a shell account to hold my Alliance open for me to visit theirs. In this case the Player agreed that Multi-Accounting was a terrible thing! Then asked what I meant by the "Keys" to another account. After explaining that is the user/pass for it, they said OH! Well, I have that information for my Safehouse. That is where we park our troops at night to keep them safe! The CONCEPT that having a Safehouse Account was the same as Multi-Accounting was far to difficult to grasp.

I have also been told about a Management Account vs a Main Account. The Management one was used as the Leader of the Sub-Alliance while the Main was kept in Alliance Main.

The list of "Excuses" of why THIS isn't Multi-Accounting just goes on and on.

Oh, and to get this kind of back on topic: Multis have historically been used for Glory Boosted Hits. Haven't heard much talk about those lately. They were very common during the original Alliance Tournament. For those who do not know, it was a Glory based contest. Highest Glory during the event won. It was often run at the same time as the Foreign Invasion event. Talk about crazy high Glory BRs.

People would get far more Glory from the Multi's Def Stacked Glory Boosted Hits than they could ever get from an FL hit. I wonder if they are still doing that? Can you imagine how much Glory you would get from a stacked Def Castle with no Cast these days???

Maybe I shouldn't have asked...……...

Saif Ur Rahman (INT2) · 12.05.2020

You might have attacked all of them at once and that's why they would not be showing as it takes some time before new ones spawn. They might have appeared by now.

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) · 12.05.2020

Wasso (INT3) said:

LegendaryKing73 (GB1) said:

Wasso (INT3) said:

This very same player who hates cheats obviously had keys to that account.

You will find that type of hypocrisy is rampant. I was chatting with another Player (in another Alliance) a few weeks ago about why I play solo. I always like to see if they will offer a shell account to hold my Alliance open for me to visit theirs. In this case the Player agreed that Multi-Accounting was a terrible thing! Then asked what I meant by the "Keys" to another account. After explaining that is the user/pass for it, they said OH! Well, I have that information for my Safehouse. That is where we park our troops at night to keep them safe! The CONCEPT that having a Safehouse Account was the same as Multi-Accounting was far to difficult to grasp.

I have also been told about a Management Account vs a Main Account. The Management one was used as the Leader of the Sub-Alliance while the Main was kept in Alliance Main.

The list of "Excuses" of why THIS isn't Multi-Accounting just goes on and on.

Oh, and to get this kind of back on topic: Multis have historically been used for Glory Boosted Hits. Haven't heard much talk about those lately. They were very common during the original Alliance Tournament. For those who do not know, it was a Glory based contest. Highest Glory during the event won. It was often run at the same time as the Foreign Invasion event. Talk about crazy high Glory BRs.

People would get far more Glory from the Multi's Def Stacked Glory Boosted Hits than they could ever get from an FL hit. I wonder if they are still doing that? Can you imagine how much Glory you would get from a stacked Def Castle with no Cast these days???

Maybe I shouldn't have asked...……...

I agree wholeheartedly. I started playing this game back in mid-2012 and I knew and played in the original alliance tournament for glory, which was well before, years even, before the foreign invaders came along. If you take a look at any of baldricks posts on here, they date. There used to be rankings for the amount of coins made in a week until they got rid of it. Anyway, that is off-topic. A lot of those players who were hitting shells, and for that matter hitting each other was a tactic used by the likes of the defunct BSK on the UK server.

There are very few players left from that alliance, and I doubt that the owners still have them. BSK were the only alliance to cry about a certain alliance gaining glory through hitting each other, yet those who claim this as fact, must have done this themselves. It is a bit like those on the forum who say that certain alliances (especially the German ones) pay other alliances to lose or give up their influence in BTH.

Those who talk about password sharing, multi-accounting, hiding shells and chargebacks, and say how much they hate these type of players are more often than not doing it themselves. Personally, I don't care if they do, or if they don't, since it doesn't affect my game one little bit. I just think it is about time hypocrites were called out for who they are. The player whom I cited about having a capital only recently is now in ruins and is Count Palatine. That tells me all I need to know about the alliance and their morals.

Kyriakos (GB1) · 12.05.2020

I find that there's a 10-15 minute cooldown for each castle after I attack them.

bucketofsquid (US1) · 28.05.2020

Since GGS dumped a bunch of their staff they clearly don't have the people to monitor multi-account players. As pointed out previously by someone else, it won't effect most single account players as long as they are playing because they enjoy playing.

bingers (GB1) · 22.06.2020

Going back to the good old days, anybody remember when the Foreign Lords use to attack? Should this be brought back?

General Aladeen (IN1) · 22.06.2020

bingers (GB1) said:

Going back to the good old days, anybody remember when the Foreign Lords use to attack? Should this be brought back?

yes. i would like that feature back.

snowie (NL1) · 09.07.2020

Those blood crows have to stop them you get almost nothing
and ontrons costs a lot and then nothing

Murugan (INT1) · 09.07.2020

i agree only crap targets full of attackers and militia

JYT (US1) · 12.07.2020

just keep grinding... I been pulling 2/3/5/7/8ks pretty regularly but it takes some hitting.
I just throw red banners at anything over 1k and just dive down undefended flanks, and big ones turn up eventually

steve2091 (US1) · 15.07.2020

Blood Crow Events: Question/complaint

We are in 9 player groups for rewards. HOW S IT ANYWHERE NEAR A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WHEN 6 OF THE 9 IN MY GROUP ARE LEVEL 800'S AND I AM A LEVEL 268??

CANT THE GROUPINGS BE DONE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPETITIVELY SOMEHOW?

THANKS FOR LISTENING TO MY WHINE.

1TRUBBEL (SKN1) · 17.09.2020

They want you to spend money or rubies
or be online 30h/per day

i told them long time before

There isnt a single lvl 70 player that has 500+ troops in a castle TODAY

They want you to make time on events so you can waste tablets to make targets better

They prefer rubies upgrade tho

Wasso (INT3) · 12.10.2020

Ozzy the Great (US1) said:

Not a discussion, a major complaint!!

Every time, there are never good targets, constantly out of the ten target castles....nothing over 500-700, once out of 30 maybe a 1000!! This is so ridiculous, this round is the worst yet. You would think GGE would want to give us large targets, so we would Dethrone them, I'm not wasting my time and rubies Dethroning a 500, 700, or even a 1000 target. I'm so tired of it, I actually had to come here, to the forum and complain.

Welcome to the forum! This has been stated around 14,423,689,211 times. About a year ago(?) GGS made the castles stronger (their words). In reality, they did. They went from on average 550 to on average 750. No one was impressed, except for GGS themselves.

What they really want, is for players to have to hit castles at a similar rate to camps. They don't make money on the Player getting high amounts of glory in one hit. They make their money on people buying boosters to make up for the low amount of glory you get from a 750 castle AND hitting hundreds of castles.

I expect in their mind (so to speak) making the tails only 17 silver and unlimited makes up for the low amount of Def in the target castles. I will admit that I am now getting far more glory than I ever did before as a player who has never bought.. Even with the low Troop castles.

Side note: I NEVER dethrone. Just hit the 500 - 1000 castles with full tails. Even when only sending attack troops in the middle and one flank, I now send full tails.

When I get the occasional 3000 - 5000 (and yes, I have found a few this round, just like every round) I tool as needed and send the rest tails. What IS now more rare, but still around are the 8000-10000 troop castles. I do still get them, but seemingly much more rarely.

In a nut shell, this is exactly the level that GGS wants. AND, since they did make a change "recently", the odds of them making another increase is very very low.........

Drackor (US1) · 12.10.2020

It's a shame that 99 percent of targets are all between 500-600 defenders, another way that GGE forces us to spend hard earned tokens and rubies to dethrone and gain another couple hundred defenders to gain a wee bit more glory.... DISGUSTING to say the least.

Wasso (INT3) · 12.10.2020

Drackor (US1) said:

It's a shame that 99 percent of targets are all between 500-600 defenders, another way that GGE forces us to spend hard earned tokens and rubies to dethrone and gain another couple hundred defenders to gain a wee bit more glory.... DISGUSTING to say the least.

Stop playing...........

Poseidon · 13.10.2020

Hello drackor, no one is forcing you to use your tokens or rubies on dethroning these castles.
Which for your information doesn't make them any stronger, it just gives you a new castle.

I know from personal experience that you can now easily get 50-150 million glory without spending money, now it will cost you a few silver tokens and rubies, but that's fair.

So tired of crappy FC/BC targets

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