Discussion Thread: April Update Notes 2019

darkfirelord5 (INT3) · 27.04.2019

Can I use a VISA gift card for rubies? Because its not letting me

Breor (US1) · 28.04.2019

blackflames (US1) said:

Breor (US1) said:

If it's the case that this new relic equipment will be weaker than equipment that has been in the game for more than a year, then I'd have to ask what the point is.

I like the limitations on courtyard and flank space imposed by the relic equipment, but it makes it so much weaker to where nobody will use it.

There are new bonuses such as raw production bonus for casts that can increase food production and also market borrows as just 2 of the economic boosts.

Would anything prevent players from equipping the relic stuff to get the economic bonuses, then switching back to regular equipment when they get attacked? As far as I can tell, it's just the castellan heroes that give the economic bonuses.

Wiglema (NL1) · 28.04.2019

My 2 cents:

Relic woodcutter
It seems that the most important things we need to know are that it has 20 levels and that is costs relic tokens. Who cares about its function...?

New skins
Whatever.

Lost and found
Might save support a lot of time from answering requests for missing equipment, but otherwise, just adding the 30 slots to the existing storage would have also been nice. Personally, I make sure to reserve some space for rewards whenever the storage icon becomes red, so for me the existing hidden "lost and found" was sufficient. (It was already possible to have about 30 extra items above the official storage limit.)

Outer realms 4.0
1. Main complaint from players was that level 70 players can farm level 11 players without any risk or loss whatsoever. This complaint is apparently not at all addressed by the proposed change.
2. Fluctuating food demands will prevent planning for sufficient food during sleep or work and will therefore undoubtedly lead to loss of soldiers.
3. Fixed travel time of 30 minutes for attacks, so the cheaper and weaker troops will loose their advantage of faster movement. I see that as a loss of tactical variability.
4. The scoring system is "interesting". Will need to see it in practice to properly judge. But I do hope the developers fully understand the system before they release it.

Image: https://us.v-cdn.net/6025127/uploads/editor/6r/5u50jaerbg8y.png

If I understand the scoring system correctly, the example will not work. Rank 1 is not in the same reward range as rank 100 nor in the next reward range in the sequence. Rank 100 would only be able to swap with rank 2 to 99, and only rank 2-50 would be able to swap with rank 1.

blackflames (US1) · 28.04.2019

Breor (US1) said:

blackflames (US1) said:

Breor (US1) said:

If it's the case that this new relic equipment will be weaker than equipment that has been in the game for more than a year, then I'd have to ask what the point is.

I like the limitations on courtyard and flank space imposed by the relic equipment, but it makes it so much weaker to where nobody will use it.

There are new bonuses such as raw production bonus for casts that can increase food production and also market borrows as just 2 of the economic boosts.

Would anything prevent players from equipping the relic stuff to get the economic bonuses, then switching back to regular equipment when they get attacked? As far as I can tell, it's just the castellan heroes that give the economic bonuses.

Can only have either relic or regular equipment on at a time. No penalty for quick swapping to another set when attacks are incoming. depending if in war or not that could very well be a problem swapping when every castle is being hit though.

So far have only seen casts with economic boosts and pretty sure that will be the case since coms are not bound to a select castle so bonus applications would be hard to balance.

bummer (AU1) · 28.04.2019

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

storage = ok ,

skins - don't buy anyway,

woodcutters - are you joking - only have in op's and kingdoms but loot more than i produce,

Outer realms - wtf - much more complicated - why not just stop high lvl payers attacking more than 10 below ! and make robbers cooldown a standard 30 mins ?

if i didn't want the relic builds i wouldn't be playing it !

PS i still can't read your in game announcement thingy and saw a brief flash of a survey there - can you address the issues before assuming people can read it !

the only way to read the html message as a flash player is to kill the flash plugin, I mentioned that to support many times but all that happens is that I got suspended, I guess for posting to many tickets.

Cozinc (US1) · 28.04.2019

The only good thing i saw was the lost and found.
An all these relic buildings are cool,but if ur going to keep on making new ones then at least make the construction tokens more accessible

and my idea of a fix outer realm is - rbs with 30min or less cool downs and more coins are given out each hit.

Becca (NL1) · 28.04.2019

use the same limits as with the fake attacks on green to gain bees etc. Why can a lvl 70 hit on a lvl 20? Have a minus 10 limit on it. As a lower level, 20 you try to gain some, but if you can be attacked by lvl 70, its not fun anymore. So put something in like, you can only gain goods when attacking accounts within your lead. Like 10-20, 20-30, 30-40 etc. DO NOT ALLOW LVL 70 to attack less than level 60!!!!!!

hionmentho (US1) · 28.04.2019

think I speak for everyone when I say this update is complete and utter grapefruits.

Rusev (US1) · 28.04.2019

hionmentho (US1) said:

think I speak for everyone when I say this update is complete and utter shit.

Just like a hit from Cbee. I second this man's comment.

bernhardt (US1) · 28.04.2019

If you think this is bad, just wait until they drop the relic equipment on us without increasing the storage space for equipment five fold. I guarantee the relic equipment will be dropped with no storage space increase based on past performance of GGE.

@Crom Cruach I know you at least read the stuff posted here, but does ANYBODY from GGE do the same for the test server forum where GGE is supposedly looking for feedback?

JYT (US1) · 28.04.2019

Tempted to just leave "lol" and walk away without saying any more in response to this update, as it really doesn't deserve even that, but...
The lost and found thing is a nice convenience feature, really, but imo shouldnt even be necessary. Yall really too lazy to go forge some purples every now and then? lol
Rest of the stuff isn't even an update; no point rolling it out because I'm pretty sure no one is going to pay any attention to it.

And this seals the deal I'm not even going to open an account on outer realms. Doesn't even deserve recognition for existence in my books. I'll just keep playing kingdoms league like normal and accidentally get golds for those tokens, big whoop.
Fight hard first event for a gold and almost forget about the game for a month, come back to 100 construction tokens and several hundred upgrade tokens, sounds like a deal. It's what I did last round, it's probably just about the same as I'll do next time around

Anyway I'm off topic. Whatever happened to that Daimyo fella? Was hoping to see him, especially if that means samurai is going to be run more frequently. I have a lot of pagoda gardens and nail to get still.
While I'm banging on the Quarter Roadmaps:

"We will improve our Hospital so that you’d be able to choose on your own which troops you want to heal first
We will enable you to actually use editable text in our current traders, making it easier to select items in bulk."

This was promised back in Q4 Roadmap, hopefully to arrive around December 2018. Which was about 5 months ago. I mean, I get that most of the other stuff announced in that roadmap have arrived/been addressed (autofill revamp, royal capitals

, Kingdom's League and those collector events) but many were planned to be released almost half a year ago, months behind schedule.

Ironic how, afaik, Q1 Roadmap stuff has been completed but last year's Q4 plans have not.

Vanish (INT2) · 29.04.2019

I will not buy a season pass for outer realms this time. I did last time. This is AWFUL

Kage (ASIA1) · 29.04.2019

If you/re adding new eqs to the game, make separate inventory for the new sets.
Another 400.

dandelion1958 (GB1) · 29.04.2019

Roy II (US1) said:

The Outer Realm is a fracking joke. Every time I try to access my Outer Realm castle by clicking the button to enter the Outer Realm it's like a craps shoot! Sometimes you get lucky & access it on the first click, other times it just reloads the main castle of the Actual Game! For instance, the last time I clicked on the Enter the Outer Realm button to enter the Outer Realm for over 1/2 an hour but all it did was reload & then I ended back up in my Main Castle again! I went to the Outer Realm when they first started giving the relic build & upgrade tokens as prizes & I kinda liked it because when you clicked on the enter Outer Realms button you actually entered the Outer Realm & it wasn't so cut-throat. But now I don't think I will EVER be going back to the crappy Outer Realm again!

I have the same issue but find that if i refresh the tab then as soon as all pop-ups etc. cleared click on outer realms and usually goes straight to castle !

@Crom Cruach - does this need to be reported as a bug ? i thought it was just my old p/c being individual

cheza2000 (GB1) · 29.04.2019

Relic Woodcutter = What does it do? If it relates to wood production then at what level do your game designers actually play this game? This would be worse than the barracks upgrades where you can get a 3k army for 5.7mil and weaker than horrors - errr no.

Skins = Specify which is which and show the options in game with the offer. Got the honeycomb only to discover the nice option is for a metro so useless, got a cute baby dragon only to discover that the skins are horrible.

lost and found = not needed, just increase storage as promised

Outer Realms = I only play them because i am forced too in order to get tokens. I hate it, I want to play my account only. make the ways to get them in game. Revamp storm and put the rewards in there. At least it would have some relevance.

Not a promising update at all and simply another in a line of disappointments that has everyone asking if GGS listen to their players at all. Think we all know that the answer is NO.

George 1968 (INT2) · 29.04.2019

https://prnt.sc/niflp0 What is this how many acount its same in this alliance this is from more kingdoms

George 1968 (INT2) · 29.04.2019

sory i mean outer realms in this alliance many acount have the same name how they doing this

Wiglema (NL1) · 30.04.2019

George 1968 (INT2) said:

sory i mean outer realms in this alliance many acount have the same name how they doing this

They have different names in Japanese (before the ".JP1"), which you don't see in your version.

Wasso (INT3) · 30.04.2019

Wiglema (NL1) said:

George 1968 (INT2) said:

sory i mean outer realms in this alliance many acount have the same name how they doing this

They have different names in Japanese (before the ".JP1"), which you don't see in your version.

This is due to being on Flash again. when HTML5 was working, you could see the Japanese Characters. On flash all we see is BLANK...…..

Crom Cruach · 30.04.2019

Zenzer (GB1) said:

This is about the placement of the "lost and found" button.

I will mention this for sure.

Philt123 (GB1) said:
Can ask a genuine question, and I am not being funny here. But does anyone who makes decisions on these things actually play the game, and by that i dont mean they have logged into an account once or twice I mean do they actually play, log in daily etc etc.

Yes, the Game Team are very active players.

Breor (US1) said:

One last note... I don't think the roadmaps should be published anymore.

That is an interesting point of view. I'll mention it here but I see the roadmap as laying out our vision for the product for the next three months, its informing you of what we are trying to do rather than a promise. Maybe we can look at changing their focus to make them better.

LordElrond (US1) said:

As proposed so eloquently several times now,, WHY ASK FOR REVIEWS/INPUT when no one pays any attention to it ??

We pay attention believe me. We want to make this game the best it can be and we want our players help to do that. Sometimes we can't implement everything you personally might want but we do at least discuss it and try to find a way to get everything into the game.

Breor (US1) said:

I like the limitations on courtyard and flank space imposed by the relic equipment, but it makes it so much weaker to where nobody will use it.

I certainly hope not, though lets try to keep the relic discussions in the relic thread please.

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