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Discussion Thread: October 2017 Update

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  • Peter John (US1)Peter John (US1) Posts: 835US1
    edited 20.09.2017


    Don't think they should rotate the sets, will make them WAY too easy to get OR increase the points to get them

    If you are non ruby player it is a challenge to finish it but it is easy to do with a good strategy.
    Need to use points booster well, I saved my booster until today because I knew I would have the most time to hit then, only got to 41 points in the 2 days before but jumped to over 200 in one day :smile:

    non ruby player too...

    Make sure you use boosters well, only 5 at a 90 camp to get the max points without using too many boosters.
    How it is make is WAY too easy? It will take very long time, as one who can't finish the LTPE has to wait for the next LTPE offering the same set, which may be the next 2 or 3. That my span over 6 months. We only have 1 18 h booster and 1 6h, if you only jump over 200 in the booster then the rest only like 40 points /d , then you may be complete it with a day or 2 to spare. something happened preventing you play for 2-3 days (especially at the end) then you are done. The whole month hard work will fail.

    I normally get 400 points over 18h booster or more. But there are days I can't play and only score 40s points. It's getting easier now since I get a couple of complete set, but again please do NOT see it from your perspective only. Vast majority of players can't do what you and I do (let alone what the top 5% can do). This game will only prevail if the goal is achievable. It will take longer time, but nevertheless shall be achievable.
    It will be WAY too easy

    For the last LTPE event (kala) I did not hit very hard at all, only sent off about 5-6 hits in FL's and some more in nomads and sams. I had no attackers at the start of the month but still managed to get to page 10 (sending attack with one comm only too).
    Even with the above I still got to page 10, which is halfway through. If it is swapped it will be way too easy for anyone to get the full set by just waiting for it to be swapped. To counter this they would have to increase the points up to page 10 or it would be WAY too easy. 

    I am no way near the top in the server, I only attack with one comm (for this LTPE I built an extra custom comm) and I have 0 sets. I am defo not in the top 5%, or top 10%. Only reason I did well in this event was because I hit hard for a couple of hours and did not waste the booster by using more khan chests than I need to :smile:
     
    I have to say I lost you completely. So you're saying that last LTPE event (Kala) you only finish 50%, and you're happy that you will never able to get a complete set? And getting the full set may requires you to wait out 2-3 LTPE events offering same thing, that means it may take you 4-6 months before getting a complete set, and still considered this of being WAY too easy? If so, let me ask you this, after you played this, say 10 years, you don't want to be able to have at least 1 complete set? Shouldn't anybody who play that long, generally speaking shall be able to have 1 set, some time at least in his life time?

    And would you PLEASE re-read my original response to CaptainBro that I SPECIFICALLY stated that I might agree with his point 7, which is increasing the point, if GGS also properly rotate the items in the set.
  • Yep, I only finished 50% without trying. If It was rotated I could not try the next month and finish the set  ;)

    I do agree that if it is rotated the points should defo be increased, but I still like it the way it is  :)
    July/August update: Removed lucky pennies, started game before they were introduced so not too p*ssed off.....
    August/September update: Half ruby loot from all towers and bermiond
    let's see if they can find another way to f*ck over no spend and low spend ruby buyers.......
    Don't think we'll have to wait for long  ;) 

    October update: Double price of ruby buildings? Get rid of ruby loot from all towers? Half ruby loot from fortresses?Make ruby tools more expensive? Get rid of ruby tools in rewards pool? Feel free to use the above "great ideas" for your next update
    ......
  • sarah1 (INT2)sarah1 (INT2) Posts: 105INT2
    about the guys who want seasonal sets to rotate: it shouldnt happen! These sets are really strong ones and you should work for them if you want them. I struggled before as well but all you need to know is teh right strategy. Know when you will have the time to game and use the bosoter at 42 points at that moment. Never use a booster when there is the Foreign event. The points/hour is a lot worse then you are able to score if we have samurai/nomades. 

    I hope GGE listens to the advices hidden in all these posts. And maybe we could get some feedback of wich of the tips/changes given here are being changed in the october update or the next future. what i would like to see is the alliance and personal rewards going up. last 2 updates did it with berimond, bloodcrow and foreing. Now it is time to increase the alliance rewards from 95k to like 150-200k. And the player rewards from 15,2k to 20/25k. When you have gotten the rewards but not done playing the events you wont have a goal to go for :( Hope wiht the extending of the rewards this will change. 

    Also can we get a detailed update about the "deleted" events? it really hurts when you wait like over 1 year for the remaining berimond invasion piece but then you need to buy it for rubies instead of earn it!
    sarah1 @ 7
  • Peter John (US1)Peter John (US1) Posts: 835US1
    edited 20.09.2017
    Yep, I only finished 50% without trying. If It was rotated I could not try the next month and finish the set  ;)

    I do agree that if it is rotated the points should defo be increased, but I still like it the way it is  :)
    Except next month not necessarily Kala set, it may not come back before the next 2-3 months.

    I don't have issue as the way it is, but I think vast majority of player would like it differently. Even if now I'm able to finish them without hell bending (first time I completed LTPE, I did play this like MOFO, but it was summer so I could do it), still for the long run, I prefer a rotation of item as I don't know if I can keep up playing like this forever. It just nice to be able to have a break without continuously plan and set quota to finish the LTPE every month.

    P.S. Page 10 is NOT 50%, it's more like 30%. Just FYI as you obviously not aware of that.
  • about the guys who want seasonal sets to rotate: it shouldnt happen! These sets are really strong ones and you should work for them if you want them. I struggled before as well but all you need to know is teh right strategy. Know when you will have the time to game and use the bosoter at 42 points at that moment. Never use a booster when there is the Foreign event. The points/hour is a lot worse then you are able to score if we have samurai/nomades. 

    I hope GGE listens to the advices hidden in all these posts. And maybe we could get some feedback of wich of the tips/changes given here are being changed in the october update or the next future. what i would like to see is the alliance and personal rewards going up. last 2 updates did it with berimond, bloodcrow and foreing. Now it is time to increase the alliance rewards from 95k to like 150-200k. And the player rewards from 15,2k to 20/25k. When you have gotten the rewards but not done playing the events you wont have a goal to go for :( Hope wiht the extending of the rewards this will change. 

    Also can we get a detailed update about the "deleted" events? it really hurts when you wait like over 1 year for the remaining berimond invasion piece but then you need to buy it for rubies instead of earn it!
    Even with rotating it STILL a lot of work (finishing the set that take 3-4 LTPEs spread over 6 months to a year, I consider that as a lot of work). Again, if you actually read and try to even understand what I'm saying, then I hope you understand that I don't advocate this for my own sake. I've been able to complete it 2x in a row now. I advocate this for vast majority players that may not be as fortunate as me.

    I think a lot of players understand on how to use the booster, but not every one able to allocated 18h of his time during this booster received. Even if they do, unless you have 4+ very good commander you can't do train.

    For me, even though I'm able to finish LTPE now, and it seems will be easier for future LTPE, I still think from about most of other people perspective. To me the principal is you should be able to achieve your objective, either:
    1. spent money
    2. spent time, this can further be split into 2 ways:
      2.a. spent a lot of time in game (with this you can compete with no. 1, not to whale though)
      2.b. take a much longer time span.

    The point is the goal shall be attainable one way or another. If not, players will give up and slowly the game will die.
  • Everytime GGS comes with some info update it makes me ROFL...i can't even get mad with them anymore, simply not possible. 

    So lets see...it was ok to screw the players that worked hard to get the LPTE coms/casts by giving the sets on a silver platter in apprentice blacksmith or whatever it was called for tokens...but when it comes to green beri comm set then you can get it for rubies only .....damn lol

    How about you fix the goddamn bugs and give us beri invasion on a regular basis and we get the pieces without spending rubies. Oh sorry, i forgot ...it's not good for GGE economy. All the previous ruby reduction updates didn't bring enough money and stability to GGE economy lol

    I'm still waiting on real October update info that will additionally increase the gap between ruby and non ruby players and make it harder for non ruby players to get rubies....and GGS please don't disappoint me, I expect in near future pay to play to be introduced...as the final nail in the coffin. After all there's so much you can do before it comes to that!

    Oh yea, there was something I liked about what i read buuuuut i can't remember what was it ...free moat tools perhaps? Given it's more than 5 per event ofc :) 

    P.S. The Oktoberfest gift, the 28PO deco and the explanation about it THANK YOU GGE!
     There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. :)



     



  • dylan42 (US1)dylan42 (US1) Posts: 157US1
    edited 20.09.2017
    Seriously gge more ruby buildings you got to be joking. It costs 227k rubies to max ONE of these tool producing buildings.
    To Max ALL of them assuming you need one in each castle you need 1,589,000 rubies. Not sure about research bc that one doesnt look that important atleast not imo. This building is overpriced af and not worth it.  The quest chain for lower levels is nice. Why do we need more units? Did anyone ask for more? I surely hope not. 
    Post edited by dylan42 (US1) on



  • @cooleesa123 (GB1)
    Even with the above I still got to page 10, which is halfway through.
    You realise page 10 is 345-398 points, and finishing the event is 1275 points first time around? There's a large margin between.

    Of course, if you simply dedicate 2-3 hours of hitting during boosters (you can trigger boosters whenever, even weekend so if you are free you can trigger) and having skips + like 2k troops (more from event) you can easily do like 100-150 attacks and thats 400-600 points right there during nomads/sams. Spend enough tabs/tokens for the 6 point reward and if you've saved up you can finish the event. I've seen normal non ruby players manage boosters well and do it in 3-4 days.

  • hmm on the test server you can no longer complete the last 10 minutes of buildings for free wonder when they were going to tell us this in the update its not that big a deal but it is a negative update for the game
  • Is it just me or does that new deco look a bit like arboreal fellatio?


    Two girls, one.... oh....
    I have no loyalty.


  • David Noble (US1)David Noble (US1) Posts: 2,552
    edited 21.09.2017
    I have a few problems with this update. First of all is the farmhouse build items coming up in this new update for 1st place and top 50 in the Nomad Invasion. With many of us and especially among level 70+ players having more than enough farming tools are these rewards really needed? Unless if GGS is talking about base instead of ordinary farmhouse tools I am not going to be impressed with the top 50 and 1st place rewards for the Nomad Invasion, because not having enough farming tools most certainly will not be a problem for getting farmhouse build items and leveling them up, but only the bricks and fine sand. I was kind of hoping that the top rewards beyond top 100 would actually be similar to the Samurai Invasion, but on the other hand I think that at least two large common bags would be much more reasonable perhaps for top 50 than getting a level 8 farmhouse build item if it is not going to be base while only 1st place would reward the level 10 farmhouse build item.  Also, what about "Guardian of the Kahn"? Will it be made available in the shop for Kahn tablets now in this upcoming update if this not going to be made available for 1st place anymore?

    And secondly, I really like the Kala mysteries cast and also the Prince of Thieves commander. Important to keep in mind also that they are nine piece equipment as well and not just your ordinary five piece equipment. But, now they are not going to be available anymore besides purchasing them for probably a ridiculous amount of rubies? Unless if the ruby costs are reasonable most people are not going to buy them. It would be nice to randomly shuffle them around with the other equipment sets instead of permanently placing them on the shelf for monthly events that can only be bought for rubies. Now one could argue they would not be worth getting if they already have a complete set from the monthly events, but it can also get boring after a while of the game being so focused on events with almost constantly adding new equipment to them and not enough focus on pvp besides the moat tools which were only recently added to the game as rewards. We are also waiting like forever for the alliance tournament, the alliance city events, and Berimond Invasion to return back into the game.
    Post edited by David Noble (US1) on
    David Noble @ usa 1
  • When is ally tournament comming
  • Missed it once and still waiting for it
  • Shares (AU1)Shares (AU1) Posts: 560AU1
    next year maybe..one of our long term casualties
    Shares @ au 1
  • Hmmmm
  • Yep, I only finished 50% without trying. If It was rotated I could not try the next month and finish the set  ;)

    I do agree that if it is rotated the points should defo be increased, but I still like it the way it is  :)
    Except next month not necessarily Kala set, it may not come back before the next 2-3 months.

    I don't have issue as the way it is, but I think vast majority of player would like it differently. Even if now I'm able to finish them without hell bending (first time I completed LTPE, I did play this like MOFO, but it was summer so I could do it), still for the long run, I prefer a rotation of item as I don't know if I can keep up playing like this forever. It just nice to be able to have a break without continuously plan and set quota to finish the LTPE every month.

    P.S. Page 10 is NOT 50%, it's more like 30%. Just FYI as you obviously not aware of that.
    Meant 50% as in halfway through the pages :smile:
    July/August update: Removed lucky pennies, started game before they were introduced so not too p*ssed off.....
    August/September update: Half ruby loot from all towers and bermiond
    let's see if they can find another way to f*ck over no spend and low spend ruby buyers.......
    Don't think we'll have to wait for long  ;) 

    October update: Double price of ruby buildings? Get rid of ruby loot from all towers? Half ruby loot from fortresses?Make ruby tools more expensive? Get rid of ruby tools in rewards pool? Feel free to use the above "great ideas" for your next update
    ......
  • rex13 (PT1)rex13 (PT1) Posts: 679PT1
    When is going to be the update?
  • I have a few problems with this update. First of all is the farmhouse build items coming up in this new update for 1st place and top 50 in the Nomad Invasion. With many of us and especially among level 70+ players having more than enough farming tools are these rewards really needed? Unless if GGS is talking about base instead of ordinary farmhouse tools I am not going to be impressed with the top 50 and 1st place rewards for the Nomad Invasion, because not having enough farming tools most certainly will not be a problem for getting farmhouse build items and leveling them up, but only the bricks and fine sand. I was kind of hoping that the top rewards beyond top 100 would actually be similar to the Samurai Invasion, but on the other hand I think that at least two large common bags would be much more reasonable perhaps for top 50 than getting a level 8 farmhouse build item if it is not going to be base while only 1st place would reward the level 10 farmhouse build item.  Also, what about "Guardian of the Kahn"? Will it be made available in the shop for Kahn tablets now in this upcoming update if this not going to be made available for 1st place anymore?
    Ye these are base items mate

    Khan commander will be available in the shop.....as a reminder to all ruby whales not to give GGE money for useless crap lol

    The Gentleman @ WWW 1
  • the set bonus gives another -20% (which also I believe is not a part of cap).
    Set bonus is part of the cap.
    Hey "Revolc (GB1)" and @Peter John (US1)

    Because the bonuses are specific to NPCs, they shouldn't be included in the cap

    Cheers,

    Angus
    As I already had said, It may look like the bonuses from the gems (wall and gate) are working but this is not true. 
    I have my commander teched so I have -127,6% wall and 137,6% wall. I tested is with those stats (no wall/gate tools) and without the stats (+ wall/gate tools). On a lv 90 camp, same soldiers same commander, just the difference in wall/gate tools. It gave me a different of around 6 loses. In all 3 times that I tried. 

    My conclussion is than , that the cap still counts voor NPC and PVP. Not that NPC is included in the cap. It really doesnt work.

    Greetz,

    Dikkie
    Getting bored of the game...
    4 months ago since a 7k+ bc/fc
     
    Still waiting till GGE give us more 1h and 30m skips.
  • Something i would like to see next update or in future. "More easier for smaller alliances to get skips"

    Many would say that there is a lot of skips to win, an i will have to agree with them, but not many are able too. Many players who are not in top alliances are not able to get the skips to improve like many other players. 
    So basically if you are not in a top alliance improving up will be hard and even more harder to get other skips.
     
    So when nomads come, they should have the hour skips more earlier than usual.

    maybe you should try to earn those skips, it's way too easy to get them in decent alliance.
    What i mean is that the 5 hour and 24 hour skips should be given more earlier in the game. I am not asking for more skips to be added.
    Also yes decent alliances, but if you are in a alliance with 4 members and you are the only level 70, its hard to get to them 5 and 24 hour skips.
    I have collected 12k nomad tokens already and that was about 55x5hour skips + 55x 30 minute skips which i used. What i got from the alliance reward was 15x5 hour skips. As you can see, not enough. You may then save the player rewards but than i would like to earn skips to lower level player in my alliance so they can improve. I got 5x5 hour skips and 5x24.
    If you do the maths, that is not good. At somepoint ill run out and wont be able to earn skips but the 30 minute an hour ones.
    You should go to some else alliance, in big alliances they get all the skips in hour or two, and then there goes waste lot of 5h skips, because they don't fit in the storage.  
    The problem there is that ill be ditching my friends.
    So you don't want to change your alliance but GGS should just change the game so you and your friends would get 5h and 24h skips whitout doing anything, sounds reasonable. :neutral:
    sir-toke @ skn 1
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