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Can't run anymore.

In this I'm gonna list a few thing that I think this game needs to address/rework in order to stall the slump it's in atm. You probably won't agree but tbf I'd probably fall asleep if you did, the game is in the maturing stage and players are getting bored of course with the usual crap re-skinned events and constant grinding of events to build an account which is pointless long term due to the lack of war, player interaction and pvp in the game at present imo.


-Understanding your demographic

Most of the players I've played alongside have been either teens or adults as realistically the games mechanics don't suit kids as they are not willing to focus/grind enough hours and its generally not geared towards kids so I do have to question why all the graphics and very bland story line seem to be marketed towards kids. The name of the game itself does not do the game any favours as "Goodgame empire" doesn't really grab anyone's attention when you're looking for a game to play that may be alongside other games so it's just something worth pointing out - Maybe someone creative in your studio can point this issue out to your overlords as it really doesn't do your advertising any favours.
Ultimately it doesn't really matter what name the game has or graphics style etc as long as the game is fun but I just thought I would bring it to attention as re branding your game might not be a bad idea at this point in the cycle although I understand that all your games have had goodgame in the title so pigs will probably fly before this would be changed.


- Fairplay rules

Well if you didn't think my first point was absurd enough then I suppose I can try to top it. Fairplay rules choke your servers like no other game I've ever seen. The Fairplay rules and whatever other titles they have could be compared to that of a corrupt Mexican prison where the inmates set the rules to suit them and the authorities can hardly do anything about it since the whole system is like a game of domino's. PVP didn't fail on this game due to the game being boring etc, it failed due to the developers not intervening to stomp out fp rules when they were in their infancy and it all just spiraled out of control from that point on to where it choked PVP enough to where you didn't deal with the problem and instead curved it by making the legendary levels update and steering the game towards PVE which also messed up the whole PVP system with triple the army sizes, quadrupling troop capacity in each castle and what I can only assume to be children being left in charge of equipment stats with effectively making nuclear equipment compared to it's predecessors. Balance has still not been addressed for these and it's a couple of years later.
Everyone is used to these rules by now so it does seem like a challenge to do away with them but with small print being added every week it really does need to be addressed in order to progress and actually make PVP the core again, It's too late at this stage for players to do anything about it, it down to you the developers to take back control of PVP on the game and end fp conformity. This was always supposed to be a war game at core and that is what it should be instead of continuing down the path of "glorified farmville" which is pathetic, nonsense regurgitated/re-skinned events can't keep players going forever and it's clear it doesn't attract many players to the game other than returning players.


-Data (Your data system is broken/failing basically)

Your company has stated many times that it is data driven many times and it's been very clear in the game direction as well although the main problem with this is that elements of the game are so broken that you simply can't run the game from data alone like has been done previously.
For example when there has has 50k player hits on a server this month then does that mean there has been 50k battles? Obviously not as most of those would have been farm runs for looting kingdom res etc, same with war declarations, would 5k war declarations mean 5k wars have been fought for example? obviously not, most would have been alliances merging and transferring res and farm alliances being declared upon. There's dozen's of examples of these corrupted data elements within the game and just needs to be noted that nothing can be run from data alone, community feedback etc should be priority.


Before I bore you anymore I'm gonna end it here as I know that player suggestions is rarely viewed but if any of you developers ever do stumble upon this then listen please as these are some the biggest issues with the game which have been shunned for too long. If you disagree with these issues then that's ok too, can't really force you to be right.
I'm just pointing out your major issues in the game and not really expecting any changes but it's time someone said it rather than more watered down nonsense. Put the fun back in the game again otherwise just watch players walk and onto better things. Your re-skinning of events is beginning to run it's course and unless you invest some time and proper resources back into the development of the game to make the GGE entertaining again then prepare for a slow and painful death. This is one of your few successful games since most of the rest have flopped so it would probably be foolish to watch it die off.

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  • Shadow_21 (AU1)Shadow_21 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,370
    wow thats alot of writing 

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  • hge (US1)hge (US1) Posts: 986
    Being someone who likes PvE, I disagree with your point about fairplay rules, but I 100% agree with everything else.
    HGE
    I am a non-ruby buying Level 70, Legend 100-something-but-I-am-to-lazy-to-update-this-every-time-I-level-up

    "He was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of joy; his eyes were bright and clean, and his voice like music; on his brow set wisdom, and in his hand was strength."



    He firecasted.
    His alliance supported.

  • Yep everything expect for the fair play rules. 
  • dreamtree (US1)dreamtree (US1) US1 Posts: 1,366
    You have to understand the reasoning behind the fairplay rules to be able to deal with them.
    Players get almost no benefit from attacking other players.
    Attacking Foreign Invaders or Bloodcrows yields far more glory. Resources can obtained other ways.
    No good event includes attacking other players...
    Example on fairplay rules regarding rv. Its very hard to protect them so rules evolved to protect them.

    BTW, how on Earth do you think GGS can stop fairplay rules?! What method can they use to get rid of them? LOL
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  • OxO (AU1)OxO (AU1) AU1 Posts: 962
    Fair play rules are there for a reason, there's pro's and cons and usually the bigger alliances break them and then force them on the smaller ones, but the general idea is a good idea.

    I.e. No attacking active players in a castle with 3/4 fires or more, give them time to rebuild.
    I.e. No stealing RV's, you don't it done to you so why do it? (I mean, I did go on the test server and steal max rv's from top alliances but nvm that, still have them too lol).

    You might not like them but it makes it easier for new players to get a good establishment



  • Think about the fairplay rules from a real life perspective. In real life, a country cant just go steal land from another one, without facing heavy oposistion from other countries and groups, such as the UN. IMO, the fp rules keep the server from falling in to absolute chaos. You dont HAVEEE to follow them ;)
  • OxO (AU1)OxO (AU1) AU1 Posts: 962
    Think about the fairplay rules from a real life perspective. In real life, a country cant just go steal land from another one, without facing heavy oposistion from other countries and groups, such as the UN. IMO, the fp rules keep the server from falling in to absolute chaos. You dont HAVEEE to follow them ;)
    only if you value not being a christmas tree should you follow the rules



  • Honestly not having fair play rules would make the game a whole lot more fun.

    Like at times it would be annoying but battling over rvs and ops and being able to defeat other people with your alliance in all war aspects is something that rarely if ever happens anymore.  

    I agree with all your points. 
    Lord septimus @us1
  • dreamtree (US1)dreamtree (US1) US1 Posts: 1,366
    Honestly not having fair play rules would make the game a whole lot more fun.

    Like at times it would be annoying but battling over rvs and ops and being able to defeat other people with your alliance in all war aspects is something that rarely if ever happens anymore.  

    I agree with all your points. 
    GGS should improve things so we have a reason to do it.
    I want want events run in the outer kingdoms.
    Increase glory from PvP so there's more benefit than attacking FI/BC.
    Create an event that has two sides in Green go to war. Think Berimond without hitting npc only players or something.
    Simply saying there should be more war doesn't actually help. We need new mechanics in the game to encourage war.
    Fair play rules don't discourage war. Game mechanics discourage it. 
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  • Honestly not having fair play rules would make the game a whole lot more fun.

    Like at times it would be annoying but battling over rvs and ops and being able to defeat other people with your alliance in all war aspects is something that rarely if ever happens anymore.  

    I agree with all your points. 
    GGS should improve things so we have a reason to do it.
    I want want events run in the outer kingdoms.
    Increase glory from PvP so there's more benefit than attacking FI/BC.
    Create an event that has two sides in Green go to war. Think Berimond without hitting npc only players or something.
    Simply saying there should be more war doesn't actually help. We need new mechanics in the game to encourage war.
    Fair play rules don't discourage war. Game mechanics discourage it. 
    Yeah I agree, gge could do so many things to improve pvp such as bringing back the alliance tourney. 
    I dont think they should mess around with the glory, rather make honor worth a shit. 
    Events in the outers i'm not really sure on, personally if theres 4 events running at a time in each kingdom that would be chaotic. 
    A reskin of old beri would be cool. 


    Lord septimus @us1
  • OxO (AU1)OxO (AU1) AU1 Posts: 962
    Honestly not having fair play rules would make the game a whole lot more fun.

    Like at times it would be annoying but battling over rvs and ops and being able to defeat other people with your alliance in all war aspects is something that rarely if ever happens anymore.  

    I agree with all your points. 
    GGS should improve things so we have a reason to do it.
    I want want events run in the outer kingdoms.
    Increase glory from PvP so there's more benefit than attacking FI/BC.
    Create an event that has two sides in Green go to war. Think Berimond without hitting npc only players or something.
    Simply saying there should be more war doesn't actually help. We need new mechanics in the game to encourage war.
    Fair play rules don't discourage war. Game mechanics discourage it. 
    Anonymous attacks can encourage PvP, so a *new* event with this and decent rewards would dig.

    Honestly not having fair play rules would make the game a whole lot more fun.

    Like at times it would be annoying but battling over rvs and ops and being able to defeat other people with your alliance in all war aspects is something that rarely if ever happens anymore.  

    I agree with all your points. 
    GGS should improve things so we have a reason to do it.
    I want want events run in the outer kingdoms.
    Increase glory from PvP so there's more benefit than attacking FI/BC.
    Create an event that has two sides in Green go to war. Think Berimond without hitting npc only players or something.
    Simply saying there should be more war doesn't actually help. We need new mechanics in the game to encourage war.
    Fair play rules don't discourage war. Game mechanics discourage it. 
    Yeah I agree, gge could do so many things to improve pvp such as bringing back the alliance tourney. 
    I dont think they should mess around with the glory, rather make honor worth a shit. 
    Events in the outers i'm not really sure on, personally if theres 4 events running at a time in each kingdom that would be chaotic. 
    A reskin of old beri would be cool. 


    Alliance tourney would be nice, honour is shit lol, events in other realms would be interesting but I don't think GGS can handle it lmao

    I don't remember old beri, what was it again? lmao



  • dreamtree (US1)dreamtree (US1) US1 Posts: 1,366
    Maybe if the rewards for high honor were better and and increasing therange one can get honor in. Right its 700 but that could changed to 1000...
    If the reward for honor above a 1k was like a million coins+ there would a lot more incentive to get and keep honor.
    Alliance Tourney had some decent rewards but it needs a personal reward section just like Foreign Invaders and Bloodcrows.
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  • PvP was the gem of this game. I'm sad that PvP is gone. I agree with everything you said. All you need for me to get back into the game is more PvP.
    #NoMoreEvents

    NoMoreEvents


  • Maybe if the rewards for high honor were better and and increasing therange one can get honor in. Right its 700 but that could changed to 1000...
    If the reward for honor above a 1k was like a million coins+ there would a lot more incentive to get and keep honor.
    Alliance Tourney had some decent rewards but it needs a personal reward section just like Foreign Invaders and Bloodcrows.
    Maybe not a million coin for over 1k honor lol.

    I would maybe have like rewards for having x amount of honor for x amount of days.


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  • dreamtree (US1)dreamtree (US1) US1 Posts: 1,366
    PvP was the gem of this game. I'm sad that PvP is gone. I agree with everything you said. All you need for me to get back into the game is more PvP.
    #NoMoreEvents
    As long as I've played this I don't remember a single time pvp was that big. I think it might have been easier when small alliances were everywhere. Now that its easier to get get glory a lot of alliance have more members than in the past.
    I started out in a 29 member max alliance. It ended up with like 5 and then died :'(
    Yep back then I could could attack other small players without too much trouble. LOL, that was before all the unique equipment and getting a 90/90 commander or castellan was an amazing feat.
    Back when getting support was really hard etc. LOL remembering how people had casts that were in the 50's at best...
    Back when Lv 70 was the max level...
    Even back then PvP was still rare though.
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  • Pvp is not gone. There are plenty of alliances that still hit Ops and break the rules lol. Just look at Bamf haha
  • dreamtree (US1)dreamtree (US1) US1 Posts: 1,366
    Pvp is not gone. There are plenty of alliances that still hit Ops and break the rules lol. Just look at Bamf haha
    LOL, they're in different servers.
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