Property - Metros and Capitols

Katukov (US1) · 04.04.2017

As most already know, this game is becoming more PvE based every update, and that's no bueno for those of us that like PvP. Ultimately the reason most of us came to play this game. On the US1 server, there are three alliances that hold the majority of the property; Misc, KON and DT. There are a few runner-ups who also possess some property. At the moment, Capitols are completely useless (Something I would like to see fixed), however, Metros is where it's at. Those three alliances I mentioned above thrive from 1k+ food bonuses, and there's no way to compete or make these alliances, who hold them, work in keeping them. Literally impossible unless you want to pull a IFS stunt and lose 200k D trying it. So here is what I'm suggesting...

1) Create a new type of Royal Tower that provides a defensive boost when capping property. As with Royal Towers, these will be scattered throughout the world and alliances will have to fight and protect theirs. This will also create more PvP action as alliances will fight to control both of these towers; Attack and Defensive ones.

2) When you're on route to a capture or are holding the capture on a property, the casts are not present. However, the attackers do get to use their commanders in knocking them down. There's obviously an imbalance there. So, what I am suggesting is that cast and commanders are taken out of the equation when dealing with property (Metros and Capitols). So it'll be based on how active your alliance is in supporting and holding RTs.

This idea is not perfect and I'm sure it has flaws, but it's a start to fixing the current state regarding property. What are your thoughts about this?

Demonic Fusion (US1) · 04.04.2017

I agree, all of the property is useless cept for metros. Why need RTs, no one bothers capping RTs or Metros anymore cept if you're KON or MISC. They need to make better use of them

Mushroom :3 (US1) · 04.04.2017

Now we know that B A M F wants some property....

*billdo must be reading this thread just breathing in and out*

3rdknight (US1) · 04.04.2017

would love to see something like this happen

clintrich (US1) · 05.04.2017

Mushroom (US1) said:

Now we know that B A M F wants some property....

*billdo must be reading this thread just breathing in and out*

Now you know robots don't breathe, just oil his gear everyday and turn him loose..

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David Noble (US1) · 05.04.2017

I disagree. Can just any alliance compete with KON, KON 2, Misc:United, the Misc, Fight Team, or Grumpy King? The Misc, Fight Team, and KON2 are the weaker out of these six big alliances, but most certainly not to be underestimated and by making it easier to steal metros, royal towers, and royal capitals possibly could invite a much larger scale server war which not all alliances enjoy being at war with and especially with alliances that are much stronger than they are and not ready for war. True there may be some alliances not part of the server war, but really want those special things to own and hold on to for as long as possible even if that means going to war over it. However, it would be annoying to almost constantly having to send defenders to prevent capture attempts like trying to steal an rv for example, because rvs can get stolen immediately unlike outposts. That is also why capitals and metros frequently burn because of frequent attacks that nobody necessarily wants to support and so that is why an alliance might allow a royal capital or metro to burn. Not to mention don't forget how expensive it is to even build a royal capital or metro. A lot of people here with myself included have no idea how expensive it is upgrade a metro or royal capital, but I can imagine it must have been very costly to get fully upgraded. If like an outpost a metro or royal capital gets abandoned would everything become level 1 all over again and would all the buildings including ruby buildings disappear as well? Metros and royal capitals are pretty much useless, except for when they are upgraded and especially when fully upgraded. Let us not forget about Grumpy King as well who unlike the other five big is currently not part of the server war. I am sure they probably would prefer not having to go to war with another big alliance that is just as strong as they are just because that alliance wants their metropolis and/or royal capital as well. I am sure that Grumpy King would be ready for war if they had to go to war, but they are apparently not part of any large scale war right now like Kon and Kon2 vs. Misc:United and some of their allies or friends. I think that the purpose of metros and royal capitals was for the strongest alliances to hold on to them forever, unless if the alliance wants to give away to another alliance or the current holder leaves to join another alliance which are both highly unlikely. KON and KON2 could also surrender in the server war even if that means giving up their metros, royal capitals, and even royal towers to Misc, but again I have my doubts about this because of the fact that both sides seem to want war with each other and that is why they have been fighting for such a long time. Unless if KON and KON2 agrees to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers or all of Misc and Fight Team agree to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers I think it is possible that they might be at war with each for a very long time until Negan decides to quit the game maybe. (If Negan quits the game it might be the end of KON possibly or at least not be as strong as they once were.) It would seem like KON does not want to admit defeat even after losing Serry who apparently quit the game and even after failing to win 1st place in Storm Islands.

Venom (ASIA1) · 05.04.2017

David Noble (US1) said:

I disagree. Can just any alliance compete with KON, KON 2, Misc:United, the Misc, Fight Team, or Grumpy King? The Misc, Fight Team, and KON2 are the weaker out of these six big alliances, but most certainly not to be underestimated and by making it easier to steal metros, royal towers, and royal capitals possibly could invite a much larger scale server war which not all alliances enjoy being at war with and especially with alliances that are much stronger than they are and not ready for war. True there may be some alliances not part of the server war, but really want those special things to own and hold on to for as long as possible even if that means going to war over it. However, it would be annoying to almost constantly having to send defenders to prevent capture attempts like trying to steal an rv for example, because rvs can get stolen immediately unlike outposts. That is also why capitals and metros frequently burn because of frequent attacks that nobody necessarily wants to support and so that is why an alliance might allow a royal capital or metro to burn. Not to mention don't forget how expensive it is to even build a royal capital or metro. A lot of people here with myself included have no idea how expensive it is upgrade a metro or royal capital, but I can imagine it must have been very costly to get fully upgraded. If like an outpost a metro or royal capital gets abandoned would everything become level 1 all over again and would all the buildings including ruby buildings disappear as well? Metros and royal capitals are pretty much useless, except for when they are upgraded and especially when fully upgraded. Let us not forget about Grumpy King as well who unlike the other five big is currently not part of the server war. I am sure they probably would prefer not having to go to war with another big alliance that is just as strong as they are just because that alliance wants their metropolis and/or royal capital as well. I am sure that Grumpy King would be ready for war if they had to go to war, but they are apparently not part of any large scale war right now like Kon and Kon2 vs. Misc:United and some of their allies or friends. I think that the purpose of metros and royal capitals was for the strongest alliances to hold on to them forever, unless if the alliance wants to give away to another alliance or the current holder leaves to join another alliance which are both highly unlikely. KON and KON2 could also surrender in the server war even if that means giving up their metros, royal capitals, and even royal towers to Misc, but again I have my doubts about this because of the fact that both sides seem to want war with each other and that is why they have been fighting for such a long time. Unless if KON and KON2 agrees to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers or all of Misc and Fight Team agree to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers I think it is possible that they might be at war with each for a very long time until Negan decides to quit the game maybe. (If Negan quits the game it might be the end of KON possibly or at least not be as strong as they once were.) It would seem like KON does not want to admit defeat even after losing Serry who apparently quit the game and even after failing to win 1st place in Storm Islands.

A 6th wave hit on a metro will take out over 27K defenders if you had 200% bonus from RT's. There are at least 5, 6th wavers in KoN (I have no idea as I am not on the US server). Each one of those players holds approx 40K attackers. 6th wave hit takes roughly 3K attacks. That is 13 hits from each one of those players. 13*5*27,000=1,755,000 defenders to hold it from those 5 players.

How is anyone meant to supply that kind of defense? It is technically impossible to take a metro on a large server.

kykich (CN1) · 05.04.2017

Dark Venom (ASIA1) said:

David Noble (US1) said:

I disagree. Can just any alliance compete with KON, KON 2, Misc:United, the Misc, Fight Team, or Grumpy King? The Misc, Fight Team, and KON2 are the weaker out of these six big alliances, but most certainly not to be underestimated and by making it easier to steal metros, royal towers, and royal capitals possibly could invite a much larger scale server war which not all alliances enjoy being at war with and especially with alliances that are much stronger than they are and not ready for war. True there may be some alliances not part of the server war, but really want those special things to own and hold on to for as long as possible even if that means going to war over it. However, it would be annoying to almost constantly having to send defenders to prevent capture attempts like trying to steal an rv for example, because rvs can get stolen immediately unlike outposts. That is also why capitals and metros frequently burn because of frequent attacks that nobody necessarily wants to support and so that is why an alliance might allow a royal capital or metro to burn. Not to mention don't forget how expensive it is to even build a royal capital or metro. A lot of people here with myself included have no idea how expensive it is upgrade a metro or royal capital, but I can imagine it must have been very costly to get fully upgraded. If like an outpost a metro or royal capital gets abandoned would everything become level 1 all over again and would all the buildings including ruby buildings disappear as well? Metros and royal capitals are pretty much useless, except for when they are upgraded and especially when fully upgraded. Let us not forget about Grumpy King as well who unlike the other five big is currently not part of the server war. I am sure they probably would prefer not having to go to war with another big alliance that is just as strong as they are just because that alliance wants their metropolis and/or royal capital as well. I am sure that Grumpy King would be ready for war if they had to go to war, but they are apparently not part of any large scale war right now like Kon and Kon2 vs. Misc:United and some of their allies or friends. I think that the purpose of metros and royal capitals was for the strongest alliances to hold on to them forever, unless if the alliance wants to give away to another alliance or the current holder leaves to join another alliance which are both highly unlikely. KON and KON2 could also surrender in the server war even if that means giving up their metros, royal capitals, and even royal towers to Misc, but again I have my doubts about this because of the fact that both sides seem to want war with each other and that is why they have been fighting for such a long time. Unless if KON and KON2 agrees to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers or all of Misc and Fight Team agree to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers I think it is possible that they might be at war with each for a very long time until Negan decides to quit the game maybe. (If Negan quits the game it might be the end of KON possibly or at least not be as strong as they once were.) It would seem like KON does not want to admit defeat even after losing Serry who apparently quit the game and even after failing to win 1st place in Storm Islands.

A 6th wave hit on a metro will take out over 27K defenders if you had 200% bonus from RT's. There are at least 5, 6th wavers in KoN (I have no idea as I am not on the US server). Each one of those players holds approx 40K attackers. 6th wave hit takes roughly 3K attacks. That is 13 hits from each one of those players. 13*5*27,000=1,755,000 defenders to hold it from those 5 players.

How is anyone meant to supply that kind of defense? It is technically impossible to take a metro on a large server.

I disagree with you that 200% bonus, you are very navryatli can kill 1.7 million defense

on the Russian server, one Alliance has the bonus of 700% and 1 strike for 40-80k defense

and 200% on 1.7 million will be killed with 1 attack around 3-5K defense

I think it's very realistic, if you know what Yes as))) and on the Russian server too, there is a big war))) and I can see who and how takes the property)

Venom (ASIA1) · 05.04.2017

Кук (ASIA1) said:

Dark Venom (ASIA1) said:

David Noble (US1) said:

I disagree. Can just any alliance compete with KON, KON 2, Misc:United, the Misc, Fight Team, or Grumpy King? The Misc, Fight Team, and KON2 are the weaker out of these six big alliances, but most certainly not to be underestimated and by making it easier to steal metros, royal towers, and royal capitals possibly could invite a much larger scale server war which not all alliances enjoy being at war with and especially with alliances that are much stronger than they are and not ready for war. True there may be some alliances not part of the server war, but really want those special things to own and hold on to for as long as possible even if that means going to war over it. However, it would be annoying to almost constantly having to send defenders to prevent capture attempts like trying to steal an rv for example, because rvs can get stolen immediately unlike outposts. That is also why capitals and metros frequently burn because of frequent attacks that nobody necessarily wants to support and so that is why an alliance might allow a royal capital or metro to burn. Not to mention don't forget how expensive it is to even build a royal capital or metro. A lot of people here with myself included have no idea how expensive it is upgrade a metro or royal capital, but I can imagine it must have been very costly to get fully upgraded. If like an outpost a metro or royal capital gets abandoned would everything become level 1 all over again and would all the buildings including ruby buildings disappear as well? Metros and royal capitals are pretty much useless, except for when they are upgraded and especially when fully upgraded. Let us not forget about Grumpy King as well who unlike the other five big is currently not part of the server war. I am sure they probably would prefer not having to go to war with another big alliance that is just as strong as they are just because that alliance wants their metropolis and/or royal capital as well. I am sure that Grumpy King would be ready for war if they had to go to war, but they are apparently not part of any large scale war right now like Kon and Kon2 vs. Misc:United and some of their allies or friends. I think that the purpose of metros and royal capitals was for the strongest alliances to hold on to them forever, unless if the alliance wants to give away to another alliance or the current holder leaves to join another alliance which are both highly unlikely. KON and KON2 could also surrender in the server war even if that means giving up their metros, royal capitals, and even royal towers to Misc, but again I have my doubts about this because of the fact that both sides seem to want war with each other and that is why they have been fighting for such a long time. Unless if KON and KON2 agrees to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers or all of Misc and Fight Team agree to give up their metros, capitals, and royal towers I think it is possible that they might be at war with each for a very long time until Negan decides to quit the game maybe. (If Negan quits the game it might be the end of KON possibly or at least not be as strong as they once were.) It would seem like KON does not want to admit defeat even after losing Serry who apparently quit the game and even after failing to win 1st place in Storm Islands.

A 6th wave hit on a metro will take out over 27K defenders if you had 200% bonus from RT's. There are at least 5, 6th wavers in KoN (I have no idea as I am not on the US server). Each one of those players holds approx 40K attackers. 6th wave hit takes roughly 3K attacks. That is 13 hits from each one of those players. 13*5*27,000=1,755,000 defenders to hold it from those 5 players.

How is anyone meant to supply that kind of defense? It is technically impossible to take a metro on a large server.

I disagree with you that 200% bonus, you are very navryatli can kill 1.7 million defense

on the Russian server, one Alliance has the bonus of 700% and 1 strike for 40-80k defense

and 200% on 1.7 million will be killed with 1 attack around 3-5K defense

I think it's very realistic, if you know what Yes as))) and on the Russian server too, there is a big war))) and I can see who and how takes the property)

I clearly said that a 200% bonus takes out 27K defense in 1 hit. Not 1.7 million. 5 players could use all their troops to kill 1.7 million defenders if they have 6th wave is what I said.

Milf Hunter (INT1) · 05.04.2017

Well, the first few attacks will only kill at most 1k out of the 1.7mill so you will need a hell load more of attacks.

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