Honestly if you think KoN isn't pathetic I have no respect for you. (SERIOUSLY)

GodsNobleman · 17.08.2015

Pigsnout wrote: »

We liked the alliances on our side better!

You forgot to mention the Indys... oh wait, we're just snacks in your eyes aren't we?

Pigsnout (US1) · 17.08.2015

I dont think we know each other?

In any case WoK players currently only hit alliances we are at war with. With the exception of a shadies and then if we hit you, you are welcome to hit us back.

Outside of war time if whoever we hit is welcome to hit us back, and we don't steal RVs or outposts.

There are many indy alliances that I have helped and supported to grow.

GodsNobleman · 17.08.2015

Pigsnout wrote: »

I dont think we know each other?

In any case WoK players currently only hit alliances we are at war with. With the exception of a shadies and then if we hit you, you are welcome to hit us back.

I meant a few specifics, such as TUF and their crew. Clearly that qualifies as 'your side' because you said 'we'. Yea, I'm a bit generic but I did not mean WOK. WOK has not hit indies (massed them, harassed) like TUF did, at least not as far as I know.

Outside of war time if whoever we hit is welcome to hit us back, and we don't steal RVs or outposts.

That is a very bold statement. I don't believe a word of it, if by 'we' you mean your side.

PS,

The biggest paradox in the game, implicated of course by one of the biggest arses in the game: Cowboy13.

There are many indy alliances that I have helped and supported to grow.

Yeah, and I'm sure Nephs Hellions (now warhammer) is one of them. I like that about Neph; their ability to grow.

Pigsnout (US1) · 17.08.2015

I was just talking about WoK.

And I don't know warhammer at all. Im neither for or against them.

You probably should ask questions before shooting insults about alliances you don't know.

GodsNobleman · 17.08.2015

Pigsnout wrote: »

I was just talking about WoK.

And I don't know warhammer at all. Im neither for or against them.

You probably should ask questions before shooting insults about alliances you don't know.

And I was just talking about TUF.

I just finished saying

"I'm generic"
"I meant TUF cause you said your side"

You literally just listed your side (NE,WOK, etc) which includes TUF.

You should probably stop making such a big deal out of a misunderstanding.

Inferno Soul (US1) · 17.08.2015

Andrew Milner wrote: »

Lol not sure why misc declared, but prob because you guys went for rvs without declaring or something like that. It seems like a kon sub thing since we had to do it several times at the beginning of the war. Subs seem to think they can sneak in an attack or an rv steal and we wouldn't notice or be to scared to declare.

Inaccurate. Don't assume, it makes an ass out of you an me (but you like being an ass, so be nice please and don't make me one lol)

I was awake when MISC declared (I was diplo at the time) and none of us sent hits. Nearly the same time we got declared on was when skype started blowing up about a new server war

Point is, KoN declared on MISC, MISC declared on us. So from a literal standpoint, FK was innocent

We never used dirty tactics like sneaking RV caps in while maintaining neutral.

Inferno Soul (US1) · 17.08.2015

Ryan_DeLuca wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again, except every day that goes by my words get more and more validation.

You (KoN/Serry) started a war with us almost a year ago. A year. Halloween 2015. That's two months away.

You started the war, you bragged about your abilities, you taunted us, you talked sh*t and yet we're still here almost a year later. Regardless of your many plans, deadlines, and skill at winning nobility contests and power points, you have not even come close to beating us.

Before you say well look, DT merged into MISC and D8 merged into MU, that really doesn't mean anything. The entire time this war has been going on, all our teams were filled with inactive players yet we still held our own. Merging only made us stronger, and your position weaker. FACT.

Back to my main point... You're pathetic. Why? Simply this. Smart human beings know when it's time to walk away. Serry, we all thought you were pretty smart but I have honestly lost all respect for you as I'm sure many others have.

Get a grip and give up already, you aren't going to win.

Every day this continues is just another day that we prove how impotent you and the rest of your Family are. Unlike you, some of us actually have lives and this war is just an unnecessary distraction. Let the people on your team who have lives get back to them instead of wasting time in this meaningless war. It's just pathetic.

If I had started this war and failed after nearly a year, I would delete my account out of sheer embarassment.

To anyone left who thinks I'm wrong for some deluded reason, let me please remind you that we did not declare war, you did. Do not try and tell me that we are failing to meet our objectives because our only objective has always been to keep you off of our backs, which we have clearly done successfully otherwise we would not be here. You have failed. Get over it.

Clearly we will never let you simply walk away from your mistake, but I think we can all agree that this war is a total failure on your part and it's time to put an end to it so we can ALL get back to enjoying the game and living our lives.

If you're not ready to do that, I think we've all made it clear that we will keep fighting as long as is necessary... can you say the same about everyone on your team and in your subs?

I fully expect someone from KoN, maybe even a few people to come in here and try to argue that we've lost just as much as you have, but I know, and my team knows, and the rest of the server knows, that you have simply failed. Hell even your own team probably knows it. I think it's time you became a man and learned to own up to your mistakes and walk away from this failure.

#serrynotsorry

I want to know why you're posting. It's makes me angry how even 9-10 months into the war, you guys are still talking on the forums. The hit threads are cool, because they're recent and are nice to look at, but this entire post has been made so many times in so many forms that the more you post, the more you look desperate to get KoN to end the war (just my opinion, I'm sure many others share it)

A pregnancy...and ENTIRE PREGNANCY OF TIME HAS PASSED. And you're still running your mouth. Why?

I've always wondered what goes on in the heads of people like that. Like, do you cringe at yourself for doing this? Are you ashamed inside? Do you feel evil as you write war propoganda? These are all serious questions, I want to know how your brain works because unfortunately, it makes no sense to me.

I want to know what your PURPOSE is. What is the purpose of writing these threads so balls deep in the war? WHY? What good can come of it? What good do you hope to come of it? I'm not using the "your efforts are futile" tone, I'm just asking dead-serious questions and I hope you'll answer.

Inferno

Andrew Milner (US1) · 17.08.2015

Inferno Soul wrote: »

Inaccurate. Don't assume, it makes an ass out of you an me (but you like being an ass, so be nice please and don't make me one lol)

Why can't i assume? I am free to do that as long as make it clear i am guessing. Dont tell me what to do ass

I was awake when MISC declared (I was diplo at the time) and none of us sent hits. Nearly the same time we got declared on was when skype started blowing up about a new server war

Point is, KoN declared on MISC, MISC declared on us. So from a literal standpoint, FK was innocent

We never used dirty tactics like sneaking RV caps in while maintaining neutral.

As I said earlier, kon must have bad communication since we got declared on and were at war with at least 20 kon alliance by morning. Find it hard to believe your alliance had no idea while others did. They didn't know the reason behind the war, but they certainly knew to declare on us and that kon was going to war.
So you were in FK? hmm dont remember you so i guess you fled pretty quick out of the war.

But ya FK never uses dirty tactics like password sharing ether.....

Inferno Soul (US1) · 17.08.2015

YesIlift wrote: »

How do you know you're in a cult like group? You see extreme control and violence arise when you try to leave it. Control isn't community.

A nice history lesson for you brah.

You know your sub? USAJ United? Before they merged into whatever that shell was, they were in the USAJ shell. I got into FK through them, using the pact FK had with AoD to stop them from massing me and knocking off an OP cap I had on a glitched player (player got reset to level 4 but still had all OPs/RVs/equip/outer kingdoms)

See, USAJ was always leaning towards MISC diplomacy and way of running over KoN.

As expected, they decided to go independent. What did we do? We told them goodbye, and instead of kicking em out of the skype rooms, we made a new one. We showed them respect, and they showed us respect back. I still remember caslo telling me (since I was close to USAJ) to tell them that if they ever needed a home, they were always welcome in FK.

Tell me more about this extremely controlling and violent cult please, I want to hear it.

Inferno Soul (US1) · 17.08.2015

Andrew Milner wrote: »

Why can't i assume? I am free to do that as long as make it clear i am guessing. Dont tell me what to do ass

As I said earlier, kon must have bad communication since we got declared on and were at war with at least 20 kon alliance by morning. Find it hard to believe your alliance had no idea while others did. They didn't know the reason behind the war, but they certainly knew to declare on us and that kon was going to war.
So you were in FK? hmm dont remember you so i guess you fled pretty quick out of the war.

But ya FK never uses dirty tactics like password sharing ether.....

You can assume all you want. I actually happen to enjoy watching ass

I personally didn't know anything about it until it hit the forums and we saw the geoloop/Morry conversation. All I knew was that it was war and we were declared on. Of course, I had expected this months before it happened, and I even layed out the allies (I didn't account for GK joining KoN though, lol).

I don't remember what happened with FT (I believe we declared on you the next day when we figured out who our adversaries were), but I'm thinking this is how it went down with MISC....(and a MISCer can correct me if I'm wrong)

KoN declares > KoN subs declare > MISC understands situation > MISC declares on rest of KoN subs that didn't declare

^ that seems like the most reasonable explanation

Also I've mentioned this in other posts, I cannot speak for all of FK in regards to pw sharing because anyone can lie behind a screen and say they don't share but really do. However, I can say that I don't use that kind of strategy. It ruins the game and the whole figuring out when your enemy is offline part of the term "strategy"

But as a sidestep away from FK, alot of people on both sides of the server war are guaranteed to PW share, people just do that. Anyone and everyone is suspect. Some are just better at keeping things hush hush than others I guess.

D1237 (US1) · 18.08.2015

If misc/d8/hive retreads/whales that dont like Kon spent half the time in the game as they do on the forums they might get somewhere.

Hmm.... I think that in terms of sheer time spent and effort MU/Torch/DT/misc*whatever* has done a good job of making their case on the forums, but what I don't understand is, what does this accomplish?

Are you trying to convince everyone that you are the 'good guys' and KON is 'bad'? Hmm.... while like any alliance/big alliance KON has its share of *overly hostile players*, I don't find them any more despicable than any other alliance, or any other set of 'gamers' that I've played online games with. All sides lie when put under pressure. Why, because all alliances have their share of liars. Period. Notice I don't name names. Why? pointless, irrelavant.

First of all, I doubt that misc and kon really trusted each other before the war, so if a war breaks out between them however it happened, the answer is simple; big powers always want to be #1, and they don't like competition. However, lets not pretend that one is superior to the other inherintly, that is fol de rol.

Also I am really tired of everyone blaming serry like hes some evil mastermind but morentz is a poor kid in the park that got his lunch money stolen by the KON bully, BUT he bravely stood up to them and gave them a bloody nose at the same time. *laugh*. Hypocrits!

Back in the day, during previous mmo game experiences, I dealt with opponents who knew how to respect each other. But now a days its all one upsman ship. Pathetic. When I see people try so hard, practically every day - to post how they are 'better people' than their opponents, it just gets old, fast. Why? Because they arn't, never will be, never were - so its a funny joke at most, stupid propaganda at worst.

Now some people here will whine that KON made this up or that up, however I would point out that generally speaking if you measured the number of LONG posts by people DESPERATELY trying to explain why KON is so bad - as though they are worried some people might LIKE KON by themselves without needing to be told what to think??? OMG the horror.

There is no doubt that some people feel very strongly about this war and their 'side'. However what your really seeing is that one side is *angry* at KON and KON and friends are well *happy* (mostly, hey I cant say its perfect because that would be a lie, lol) . This alone should tell you who is winning the war of the mind. Who is at ease? who is vociferous and angry, who is in a state of permanent angry indignant mindset? The answer? the loser.

Ahh but thats just a theory isn't it. Or is it??? You decide dear readers, you decide.

Warrior_Lord (US1) · 18.08.2015

D1237 wrote: »

If misc/d8/hive retreads/whales that dont like Kon spent half the time in the game as they do on the forums they might get somewhere.

Hmm.... I think that in terms of sheer time spent and effort MU/Torch/DT/misc*whatever* has done a good job of making their case on the forums, but what I don't understand is, what does this accomplish?

Are you trying to convince everyone that you are the 'good guys' and KON is 'bad'? Hmm.... while like any alliance/big alliance KON has its share of *overly hostile players*, I don't find them any more despicable than any other alliance, or any other set of 'gamers' that I've played online games with. All sides lie when put under pressure. Why, because all alliances have their share of liars. Period. Notice I don't name names. Why? pointless, irrelavant.

First of all, I doubt that misc and kon really trusted each other before the war, so if a war breaks out between them however it happened, the answer is simple; big powers always want to be #1, and they don't like competition. However, lets not pretend that one is superior to the other inherintly, that is fol de rol.

Also I am really tired of everyone blaming serry like hes some evil mastermind but morentz is a poor kid in the park that got his lunch money stolen by the KON bully, BUT he bravely stood up to them and gave them a bloody nose at the same time. *laugh*. Hypocrits!

Back in the day, during previous mmo game experiences, I dealt with opponents who knew how to respect each other. But now a days its all one upsman ship. Pathetic. When I see people try so hard, practically every day - to post how they are 'better people' than their opponents, it just gets old, fast. Why? Because they arn't, never will be, never were - so its a funny joke at most, stupid propaganda at worst.

Now some people here will whine that KON made this up or that up, however I would point out that generally speaking if you measured the number of LONG posts by people DESPERATELY trying to explain why KON is so bad - as though they are worried some people might LIKE KON by themselves without needing to be told what to think??? OMG the horror.

There is no doubt that some people feel very strongly about this war and their 'side'. However what your really seeing is that one side is *angry* at KON and KON and friends are well *happy* (mostly, hey I cant say its perfect because that would be a lie, lol) . This alone should tell you who is winning the war of the mind. Who is at ease? who is vociferous and angry, who is in a state of permanent angry indignancy? The answer? the loser.

Ahh but thats just a theory isn't it. Or is it??? You decide dear readers, your decide.

10/10 Post if it made sense

Black Orpheus · 18.08.2015

D1237 wrote: »

If misc/d8/hive retreads/whales that dont like Kon spent half the time in the game as they do on the forums they might get somewhere.

Hmm.... I think that in terms of sheer time spent and effort MU/Torch/DT/misc*whatever* has done a good job of making their case on the forums, but what I don't understand is, what does this accomplish?

Are you trying to convince everyone that you are the 'good guys' and KON is 'bad'? Hmm.... while like any alliance/big alliance KON has its share of *overly hostile players*, I don't find them any more despicable than any other alliance, or any other set of 'gamers' that I've played online games with. All sides lie when put under pressure. Why, because all alliances have their share of liars. Period. Notice I don't name names. Why? pointless, irrelavant.

First of all, I doubt that misc and kon really trusted each other before the war, so if a war breaks out between them however it happened, the answer is simple; big powers always want to be #1, and they don't like competition. However, lets not pretend that one is superior to the other inherintly, that is fol de rol.

Also I am really tired of everyone blaming serry like hes some evil mastermind but morentz is a poor kid in the park that got his lunch money stolen by the KON bully, BUT he bravely stood up to them and gave them a bloody nose at the same time. *laugh*. Hypocrits!

Back in the day, during previous mmo game experiences, I dealt with opponents who knew how to respect each other. But now a days its all one upsman ship. Pathetic. When I see people try so hard, practically every day - to post how they are 'better people' than their opponents, it just gets old, fast. Why? Because they arn't, never will be, never were - so its a funny joke at most, stupid propaganda at worst.

Now some people here will whine that KON made this up or that up, however I would point out that generally speaking if you measured the number of LONG posts by people DESPERATELY trying to explain why KON is so bad - as though they are worried some people might LIKE KON by themselves without needing to be told what to think??? OMG the horror.

There is no doubt that some people feel very strongly about this war and their 'side'. However what your really seeing is that one side is *angry* at KON and KON and friends are well *happy* (mostly, hey I cant say its perfect because that would be a lie, lol) . This alone should tell you who is winning the war of the mind. Who is at ease? who is vociferous and angry, who is in a state of permanent angry indignant mindset? The answer? the loser.

Ahh but thats just a theory isn't it. Or is it??? You decide dear readers, you decide.

My friends and I from co-branches have always had territorial respect from FT, GK, and Misc. I don't know DT well enough to make a statement. Countless times we have been unanimous about how KoN (some branches at least) has constantly attacked OPs then claimed retaliation will provoke mass attacks ("an attack on one is an attack on all"). RV thefts would go down the same road, except we would be turned red for their messes. I won't deny that there are quite a few kind alliances with KoN, those that are much more fair.

I won't go too in depth about Serry and Morentz, but I will promise that KoN declared first. Some will disagree with me here, but I believe at this point, at this event, Serry was the 'bad' one.
If Misc was going to war KoN, why declare first? Why not let Misc declare on KoN?
Then again there are the chats that supposedly accuse Misc of wanting to war KoN, but everyone calls screenshots fake nowadays, regardless of which side posts them.

As for the winning/losing, no one at this point can say one side is winning. It's a stalemate and it's been a stalemate ever since declaration.

Inferno Soul (US1) · 18.08.2015

iCantConfirm2 wrote: »

CONGRATS!!!! Did you have a boy or a girl??

Thank you!

Well it wasn't me that was pregnant, but we did have a baby girl

Verb1 · 18.08.2015

post=nobody will ever win. MU has same kt amount as the get go, "Torcherers (thanks sherry) has more, and we all are grabbing straws. There is no winner or loser, but thanks to Inferno for talking shiz to Andrew (inferno is in a protected s.o.b.? Sub? of andrews and looks like a dummy, and keenan needs to go play more xbox.)

TL:dr We're all finally playing how it should be, KON keep spending, we in this bish

Zedd4 · 18.08.2015

D1237 wrote: »

If misc/d8/hive retreads/whales that dont like Kon spent half the time in the game as they do on the forums they might get somewhere.

Hmm.... I think that in terms of sheer time spent and effort MU/Torch/DT/misc*whatever* has done a good job of making their case on the forums, but what I don't understand is, what does this accomplish?

Are you trying to convince everyone that you are the 'good guys' and KON is 'bad'? Hmm.... while like any alliance/big alliance KON has its share of *overly hostile players*, I don't find them any more despicable than any other alliance, or any other set of 'gamers' that I've played online games with. All sides lie when put under pressure. Why, because all alliances have their share of liars. Period. Notice I don't name names. Why? pointless, irrelavant.

First of all, I doubt that misc and kon really trusted each other before the war, so if a war breaks out between them however it happened, the answer is simple; big powers always want to be #1, and they don't like competition. However, lets not pretend that one is superior to the other inherintly, that is fol de rol.

Also I am really tired of everyone blaming serry like hes some evil mastermind but morentz is a poor kid in the park that got his lunch money stolen by the KON bully, BUT he bravely stood up to them and gave them a bloody nose at the same time. *laugh*. Hypocrits!

Back in the day, during previous mmo game experiences, I dealt with opponents who knew how to respect each other. But now a days its all one upsman ship. Pathetic. When I see people try so hard, practically every day - to post how they are 'better people' than their opponents, it just gets old, fast. Why? Because they arn't, never will be, never were - so its a funny joke at most, stupid propaganda at worst.

Now some people here will whine that KON made this up or that up, however I would point out that generally speaking if you measured the number of LONG posts by people DESPERATELY trying to explain why KON is so bad - as though they are worried some people might LIKE KON by themselves without needing to be told what to think??? OMG the horror.

There is no doubt that some people feel very strongly about this war and their 'side'. However what your really seeing is that one side is *angry* at KON and KON and friends are well *happy* (mostly, hey I cant say its perfect because that would be a lie, lol) . This alone should tell you who is winning the war of the mind. Who is at ease? who is vociferous and angry, who is in a state of permanent angry indignant mindset? The answer? the loser.

Ahh but thats just a theory isn't it. Or is it??? You decide dear readers, you decide.

Great post. It really shows who is winning when you look at who wants to talk and is angry most of the time. If you are really winning, there is no point to convince indys that you are fighting for them and try to convince them to join. If you are winning just win then.

Black Orpheus · 18.08.2015

Zedd4 wrote: »

Great post. It really shows who is winning when you look at who wants to talk and is angry most of the time. If you are really winning, there is no point to convince indys that you are fighting for them and try to convince them to join. If you are winning just win then.

That's a very interesting insight coming from someone who has a rough idea of KoN/Misc mechanics.

According to your logic, both sides are losing. Why?

KoN=Telemarketers
Misc= Desperate poets

Zedd4 · 18.08.2015

Black Orpheus wrote: »

That's a very interesting insight coming from someone who has a rough idea of KoN/Misc mechanics.

According to your logic, both sides are losing. Why?

KoN=Telemarketers
Misc= Desperate poets

I have been on the block too long lol dealt with Misc and Kon for years. I think they are both losing because even though they both have all the power points, the strength they once had is gone. DT used to be the second biggest alliance and now has one sub left. The significant loss of strength can be said of all the alliances involved. So the longer they fight, the weaker they will become. Then other alliances have a chance.

YesIlift · 18.08.2015

Inferno Soul wrote: »

A nice history lesson for you brah.

You know your sub? USAJ United? Before they merged into whatever that shell was, they were in the USAJ shell. I got into FK through them, using the pact FK had with AoD to stop them from massing me and knocking off an OP cap I had on a glitched player (player got reset to level 4 but still had all OPs/RVs/equip/outer kingdoms)

See, USAJ was always leaning towards MISC diplomacy and way of running over KoN.

As expected, they decided to go independent. What did we do? We told them goodbye, and instead of kicking em out of the skype rooms, we made a new one. We showed them respect, and they showed us respect back. I still remember caslo telling me (since I was close to USAJ) to tell them that if they ever needed a home, they were always welcome in FK.

Tell me more about this extremely controlling and violent cult please, I want to hear it.

2013 join date giving a 2012 join date a history lesson

I also don't understand how any of what you posted applies to what I posted? An alliance you were in merged in the past, much before the current server war, so Misc is therefore a cult?

The usual potato logic I see when I come on the forum

UltimateJhon · 19.08.2015

Fucking hell

Honestly if you think KoN isn't pathetic I have no respect for you. (SERIOUSLY)

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