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Foriegners & dummy attacks

SadhappyRulerSadhappyRuler Posts: 101
edited 16.06.2015 in Players ask Players
Will dummy attacks work on foriegners? I mean I send 1 attack to take out tools which I lose, will the second attack still hit? I mean if we lose when attacking will that castle be relocated?
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  • Lord septimusLord septimus Posts: 59
    edited 13.06.2015
    I believe so Like if I attack a level 38 foreigner and I lose it's still a level 38.
  • Akhil50 (IN1)Akhil50 (IN1) Posts: 4,347
    edited 13.06.2015
    That castle can change formations, as they are 'said' to be player resembling to that particular server, it may or may not work
    The castle only moves out when you defeat it
  • Lexx7Lexx7 Posts: 1,846
    edited 13.06.2015
    if they truly resemble players then their tools may stack very deep. players can keep up to 99 tools per tool slot, so assuming your sending 4 wave hits, thats over 20 attacks to waste all the tools. that is of course, assuming that tool wasting them does work, and that they cant equip more, and that the tools are stacked all the way to 99 per slot
  • SadhappyRulerSadhappyRuler Posts: 101
    edited 13.06.2015
    Lexx7 wrote: »
    if they truly resemble players then their tools may stack very deep. players can keep up to 99 tools per tool slot, so assuming your sending 4 wave hits, that is over 20 attacks to waste all the tools. that is of course, assuming that tool wasting them does work, and that they cant equip more, and that the tools are stacked all the way to 99 per slot

    I'm level 21 & attacking a level 27. I won't win but I'll still get a lot of glory. Maybe if he isn't supported I'll win who knows? He won't be able to retaliate though if he does, welcome at my doorsteps- sorry no entry.

    I'll send one dummy attack just in case he ain't online.
  • swantonbomb (GB1)swantonbomb (GB1) Posts: 357
    edited 13.06.2015
    SadhappyRuler wrote: »
    I'm level 21 & attacking a level 27. I won't win but I'll still get a lot of glory. Maybe if he isn't supported I'll win who knows? He won't be able to retaliate though if he does, welcome at my doorsteps- sorry no entry.

    I'll send one dummy attack just in case he ain't online.

    I dont think you quite get it do you?
  • Lexx7Lexx7 Posts: 1,846
    edited 13.06.2015
    SadhappyRuler wrote: »
    I'm level 21 & attacking a level 27. I won't win but I'll still get a lot of glory. Maybe if he isn't supported I'll win who knows? He won't be able to retaliate though if he does, welcome at my doorsteps- sorry no entry.

    I'll send one dummy attack just in case he ain't online.
    foreigners are not real players, they are just made to act like real players. it is random whether or not he will move his troops, change his defense setup, get support, have tools, etc. it doesnt matter what time you attack, they will always "be online", they just wont always change their defense. they re just computer generated enemies, like RBCs, but with more aggression and abilities
  • Lexx7Lexx7 Posts: 1,846
    edited 13.06.2015
    double post glitch (DBC)
  • gladiator 13gladiator 13 Posts: 1
    edited 13.06.2015
    HEY GUYZ I have 1000 glory form foreigns and sistem didnt give me my reword what can I do? :D
  • MangInasalMangInasal Posts: 152
    edited 13.06.2015
    Lexx7 wrote: »
    if they truly resemble players then their tools may stack very deep. players can keep up to 99 tools per tool slot, so assuming your sending 4 wave hits, thats over 20 attacks to waste all the tools. that is of course, assuming that tool wasting them does work, and that they cant equip more, and that the tools are stacked all the way to 99 per slot

    For RBCs I'm pretty sure that one (losing) stripper attack preceding the actual attack will not work as the RBC get RESET.

    As for foreigner I sent an attack to a level 45 about almost 4 hours ago and have tried 2 macemen as "strippers" to remove the tools:

    (left) 1 firemoat & 2 murder holes (+210% bonus) <<== used 1 maceman
    (mid) undefended <<== filled 161 attackers w/o tools
    (right) 1 firemoat & 2 murder holes (+210% bonus) <<== used 1 maceman

    Total 700 attackers were sent.... too bad 100 died... as I can only afford partial ruby (shield wall) and wood mantlet with my full ranged attackers (Elite&KG Xbows)... and unable to put more tools to counter the castellan with +73.1% ranged, +54% wall, and +45.3% melee... My commander is full +62.4% ranged. There were 215 defenders in the courtyard hence I needed a full frontal attack to get the +30% courtyard bonus... where I lost only 10 attackers.

    Return on Investment:

    Looted 17653 stone (nice!)
    Coins = 3034
    (16997) minus expensive hospital bill (8111 each flank plus 775 courtyard)
    (13963) <<== LOSS

    I did gain 50+50 Kingsguard Defenders though...

    Glory 786 <<== 114 glory short of the 900 requirement for a 100+100 Traveller soldiers (where will I get food for these??? hehe)


    Going back to tools... For this attack the foreigner wall was NOT STACKED hence my "strippers" worked... ;)

    Will use strippers again for my next attack....
  • Lexx7Lexx7 Posts: 1,846
    edited 13.06.2015
    MangInasal wrote: »
    For RBCs I'm pretty sure that one (losing) stripper attack preceding the actual attack will not work as the RBC get RESET.

    As for foreigner I sent an attack to a level 45 about almost 4 hours ago and have tried 2 macemen as "strippers" to remove the tools:
    (left) 1 firemoat & 2 murder holes (+210% bonus) <<== used 1 maceman
    (mid) undefended <<== put 161 attackers w/o tools
    (right) 1 firemoat & 2 murder holes (+210% bonus) <<== used 1 maceman

    Total 700 attackers were sent.. too bad 100 died... as I can only afford partial ruby (shield wall) and wood mantlet with my full ranged attackers... and unable to put more tools to counter the castellan with +73.1% ranged, +54% wall, and +45.3% melee... My commander is full +62.4% ranged. There was 215 defenders in the courtyard hence I needed a full frontal attack to get the +30% courtyard bonus... where I lost only 10 attackers.

    Bottomline... For this attack the foreigner wall was NOT STACKED hence my "strippers" worked... ;)

    Will use strippers again for my next attack....

    I just did

    1 other thing i completely forgot till this moment: foreign tools should only run 1 wave deep. im not sure what a first hit followed by a second will do, but if you send the first wave with 1 man on each flank, then you only need tools for the regular wall,gate,moat, and caste bonus's, you dont need to worry about defense tools
  • Kali.gamerKali.gamer Posts: 143
    edited 13.06.2015
    Foreigners only have 1 wave of tools for defense....
  • Akhil50 (IN1)Akhil50 (IN1) Posts: 4,347
    edited 13.06.2015
    Kali.gamer wrote: »
    Foreigners only have 1 wave of tools for defense....

    Not always, I don't think so

    They change formations, so obviously they can change the set and number of tools
  • Kali.gamerKali.gamer Posts: 143
    edited 13.06.2015
    No they always haev 1 wave.
  • MangInasalMangInasal Posts: 152
    edited 13.06.2015
    Lexx7 wrote: »
    1 other thing i completely forgot till this moment: foreign tools should only run 1 wave deep. im not sure what a first hit followed by a second will do, but if you send the first wave with 1 man on each flank, then you only need tools for the regular wall,gate,moat, and caste bonus's, you dont need to worry about defense tools

    For my case the tougher issue was the castellan bonus:

    +73.1% ranged
    +54.0% wall
    +45.3% melee

    Which I can only counter with my +62.4% full ranged commander... I'll try to use more ruby tools from my inventory (I don't buy rubies ;) )
  • Kali.gamerKali.gamer Posts: 143
    edited 13.06.2015
    Thyats easy...
    Even with wood
  • MangInasalMangInasal Posts: 152
    edited 13.06.2015
    Kali.gamer wrote: »
    Thyats easy...
    Even with wood

    I doubt you can counter that with wood in only 30 slots... and that is JUST CASTELLAN BONUS ...

    30 x 5% (wood mantlet) = 150% < 173,1% ranged power... then you still have wall & melee castellan bonus. Even with partial shield wall 48 out of 55 died... and those are Elite & KG Xbows with +62.4% ranged commander.

    And did I mention it was a "55 Attackers versus 130 Defenders" flank?
    Now tell me if you can still use purely wood tools?

    ;)
  • Emperor DolceEmperor Dolce Posts: 152
    edited 13.06.2015
    Just send one troop on each flank and gate in first wave. That will clean all the tools. Put banners with them also.
  • Kali.gamerKali.gamer Posts: 143
    edited 13.06.2015
    Yep, you could still use wood tools......
  • MangInasalMangInasal Posts: 152
    edited 13.06.2015
    Kali.gamer wrote: »
    Yep, you could still use wood tools......

    Care to illustrate the MATH which WOOD tools will do the job to WIN the flanks?
  • ABCABCABCABCABCABCABCABC Posts: 549
    edited 13.06.2015
    Full wood mantlets full range attackers. Use flank gems to get more on the side you are attacking. Attack whatever flank has more ranged as they will only fight at 23%. Use your best range and wall comm. you said 54 wall so add that to whatever wall is natural for the lvl you are hitting. If you can't get enough wall com, you can short out a couple mantlets and put in 2-3 breaching towers as they are now called, for -40 or -60% wall while still keeping range at under 30%.

    you can go to storm to get a bunch of mocks to use as well when they are necessary.

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