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Discussion: The New Hospital

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  • o0 ulle 0o (SKN1)o0 ulle 0o (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 3
    edited 09.01.2015
    What a bad update for the game.
    Serius, why should it cost us coins or rubins for "safe" some men ?
    I like the idea about it, but the update like now will destroy the game !
    I would suggest we making a claim and get our old hospitals back as they were , possibly with the new lvls , the reason for this will definitely be people lose their people like the old days , but with this update, so they are only out on we need more coins and rubies , which is already WAY too expensive.
    By good I as one person can not be a protest and get my "will" but will not stop if necessary . new things that can make the game more fun. I just can not see why we, as users need MANY more coins or rubies for an update in my world is not 5 penny.
    Take for example . demons , they cost 110 or 126 rubies for 1 unit which then takes about 1-1½ hour and get "back" .
    Let's just keep the old hospitals which will also lead to possible . several wars between people!
    Hope in which users of the game and not least GGE will consider whether this is something seriously think I highly doubt it's a good thing for the game .

    Scandic server 1 - o0 ulle 0o
    o0 ulle 0o @ skn 1
  • FamousGold (US1)FamousGold (US1) Posts: 337
    edited 09.01.2015
    Hospital Changes
    Dear Community,

    Over the past few days we have evaluated and analysed the use of the new Hospital. After this, we realised that there are some weaknesses in the building that we will amend with a second update.

    The hospital in it's current form is not as we imagined. We noticed the following inconsistencies with the new functions:
    • The healing time for units should not be as high as it is now. We want to apply the various recruitment speed bonuses that are currently available to the hospital. This should shorten the healing time and also make it more attractive for higher level players.
    • Healing units should be cheaper than the cost for recruiting them. At the moment, the Glory title bonus for cheaper recruitment makes it irrelevant to actually heal units, and this should not be the case.



    Both of these points will be corrected soon to make the Hospital a more attractive feature for you guys. We will also try to introduce the option to demolish the Hospital with this update.
    We don't know when the changes will take effect yet, but we'll make sure to let you know as soon as we can.

    Thank you for your patience.

    Best regards,
    Your Empire Team

    So Steve,

    Can you elaborate on the effects of having to use Rubies, Not Coins, to Heal Deathly Troops that we gained from either Nobility Contests or by the Mission Camp in front of our Main?
    FamousGold @ usa 1
  • longshankslongshanks Posts: 934
    edited 09.01.2015
    FamousGold wrote: »
    So Steve,

    Can you elaborate on the effects of having to use Rubies, Not Coins, to Heal Deathly Troops that we gained from either Nobility Contests or by the Mission Camp in front of our Main?

    If 5 horrors cost 55,000 glass from the village vendor in fire or are worth a small sum of rubies from winning a nobility or buying a ruby offer, why should you get them back for free at the hospital to use again and again?

    The troops must be eventually lost and not replaced without a high cost. You need a reality check if you think they can be repurchased for coins.
    4/23/2014: GGS realizes that this player and customer won't drink the kool-aid.

    **the rule of 3** GGS usually gets it right on the 3rd try. Be patient.

    Be careful if you speak the truth, your post might get deleted by a moderator.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • FamousGold (US1)FamousGold (US1) Posts: 337
    edited 09.01.2015
    longshanks wrote: »
    If 5 horrors cost 55,000 glass from the village vendor in fire or are worth a small sum of rubies from winning a nobility or buying a ruby offer, why should you get them back for free at the hospital to use again and again?

    The troops must be eventually lost and not replaced without a high cost. You need a reality check if you think they can be repurchased for coins.

    The Mission post outside main cost only Coins to receive those troops.

    Who said I spent rubies on any nobility contest to gain Deathly troops? The Foreigner Invasion does not require rubies to get into top 100, just some time and effort.
    FamousGold @ usa 1
  • longshankslongshanks Posts: 934
    edited 09.01.2015
    longshanks wrote: »
    If 5 horrors cost 55,000 glass from the village vendor in fire or are worth a small sum of rubies from winning a nobility or buying a ruby offer, why should anyone get them back for free at the hospital to use again and again?

    The troops must be eventually lost and not replaced without a high cost. You need a reality check if you think they can be repurchased for coins.

    I fixed it for you.
    4/23/2014: GGS realizes that this player and customer won't drink the kool-aid.

    **the rule of 3** GGS usually gets it right on the 3rd try. Be patient.

    Be careful if you speak the truth, your post might get deleted by a moderator.

    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • French WarriorFrench Warrior Posts: 133
    edited 09.01.2015
    this hospital not worth it at all , after the update all mine when too level 9 automatic , when I recruit range 10 kgs it cost 1280 coins and take 10-11 mins with feast and with the hospital 10 kgs cost 1180 coins and take 9H33mins and 20 sec !!! make no sense , before the update you would get a % of attackers/defenders that would survive well that make more sense . so really you safe 300 coins per 10 unit of recruitment but take for ever too get them , I rather waste the extra 300 coins and have my troops ready right away for battle . so rather undo the update or make it worth it too be use . What next ? the fire house lol , be able too fix a building costing less but taking 10hrs too be fix !!! I know the game got sold in spring but really ! do you really need money that bad before leaving us in the dust ???
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  • Jackhammer69erUJackhammer69erU Posts: 7
    edited 09.01.2015
    so why does it take so long to heal troops and now i have 200 traveling knights in my hospital that cant do anything as im not a ruby player this is not a good update at all not a happy bunny oh does that mean clash of clans bekons for most players get a grip gg
    Jackhammer69erU @ en 1
  • Cedric the Red (US1)Cedric the Red (US1) US1 Posts: 268
    edited 09.01.2015
    -gimley wrote: »
    I have a few things to say about the new Military Hospital. Everyone hates it with a passion, I know. CM's are trying to make the game better for non-ruby buyers. They have spent time establishing this game for everyone and all you guys are complaining about a stupid Military Hospital. Really? You guys are wasting time on whining and complaining about this when GGS spent so much time on preparing this amazing virtual PC game. Sounds like there is a huge lack of thankfulness swarming the forum! Maybe you should think about the time put into the game, the details, the cool events, the cool equpiment, Etc... Think about the good things CM's/GGS did for you instead of complaining like immature Stupid Asses! Thank you CM's for the amazing game!

    What are you smoking here? Cause I want some of it. The CM's don't do a damn thing to make this game easier for anyone. All they do is make promises they can't keep. And where have you been for the last 6 months, I want to know. You been out in the fields smoking the product? Cause every single update they have done in the last 6 months has increase the cost of things already paid for by rubies and changing things that you used to get with resources or coin to needing rubies. There has not one change been made since I started playing this game more than a year ago that was made to benefit non-ruby players. It all done to line the pockets of GGS and in the course of that, to give the really big ruby whales a tremendous advantage over everyone else in this game.

    Stop doing drugs and come back to reality.
    Cedric the Red - TMK WarKings @ usa 1
    I am against the majority of updates made starting with the update that included the Auto-War Declaration, the Tribute Demands, Open Gate Looting of Resources, and Increased Construction Time for Building New, or Upgrading Existing Ruby Buildings. Please revoke and give us back our strategy game.

  • Cedric the Red (US1)Cedric the Red (US1) US1 Posts: 268
    edited 09.01.2015
    FamousGold wrote: »
    The Mission post outside main cost only Coins to receive those troops.

    Who said I spent rubies on any nobility contest to gain Deathly troops? The Foreigner Invasion does not require rubies to get into top 100, just some time and effort.

    You're right, you don't need rubies to get Demon Horrors in the Foreign Invasion. I got them the last 2 Invasions just by getting enough glory points. And I didn't use ruby tools or armorer tools in any of my battles unless they were ones that I got from nobility contests or the mercenary post.
    Cedric the Red - TMK WarKings @ usa 1
    I am against the majority of updates made starting with the update that included the Auto-War Declaration, the Tribute Demands, Open Gate Looting of Resources, and Increased Construction Time for Building New, or Upgrading Existing Ruby Buildings. Please revoke and give us back our strategy game.

  • heehee3heehee3 Posts: 2,780
    edited 09.01.2015
    So, now they say they will reduce coin costs and waiting times to make the hospital more attractive. They will also add a demolish button.

    If you get requests for a demolition button, you're doing something wrong.

    How about you just give us the features we originally paid for, rather than this rubbish we do not want and have to pay more for.
    Quit while you're ahead
  • Monkey17179 (GB1)Monkey17179 (GB1) Posts: 1,382
    edited 09.01.2015
    seems they are going to make a few changes like every update they bring out
    Monkey-En1

  • edited 09.01.2015
    what a crock they have taken a good thing in the hospital and ruined it 1200 coins 5 hours for 7 troops on a level 5
    thanks GGE another cock up by the team another nail in your coffin no more rubies for me your loss
    sir brya @ WWW 1
  • Smog77 (INT1)Smog77 (INT1) Posts: 5
    edited 09.01.2015
    Why is it more expensive to heal soldiers as to recruit them?
    And it takes much more time.
    So why should we use this hospital???
    Smog77 @ WWW 1
  • Monkey17179 (GB1)Monkey17179 (GB1) Posts: 1,382
    edited 09.01.2015
    Smog77 wrote: »
    Why is it more expensive to heal soldiers as to recruit them?
    And it takes much more time.
    So why should we use this hospital???

    They,re changing it so healing costs less but i agree don't know where gge got the original idea from
    Monkey-En1

  • CharlesCastle (US1)CharlesCastle (US1) Posts: 187
    edited 09.01.2015
    Some quick math...

    Cost to recruit ranged KG attacker: 148 coin
    Recruiting 1 + 1, each costs: 74 coin
    Recruit 5 + 1: 123 coin each

    Cost to heal: 118

    So, if you are recruiting 5 + 1, you will save 5 coin by healing instead, but you will have to wait hours upon hours

    If recruiting at 4 or lower and + 1, it is cheaper (and faster!) to just recruit instead.

    No hospitals for me (other than the stupid test one I built)
  • CharlesCastle (US1)CharlesCastle (US1) Posts: 187
    edited 09.01.2015
    About the test hospital I built that GGE won't let me demolish -

    GGE's excuse is you can't demo the hospital because if you have men healing it will mess up the game.

    It's too bad GGE can't figure out how to tell you you can't do something in game, I dunno, like maybe an alert box that pops up...

    http://prntscr.com/5qgq2y

    And then, I dunno, just changed the non-existing alert box to fit the current need...

    http://prntscr.com/5qgj84

    Yeah, it's just too bad nothing like that exists in-game.
  • triangletriangle Posts: 425
    edited 09.01.2015
    it is cheaper (and faster!) to just recruit instead.
    But... Why would it be "instead"? Healing troops in the hospital does not prevent you from recruiting troops in the barracks- that's the whole point. A comparison of the two is therefore irrelevant, because the hospital isn't supposed to function as a "second barracks".
    A more useful comparison would be the old hospital to the new one. True, the old one is difficult to quantify, but if you actually want to know if this portion of the update was an improvement, then that's what you'll have to do. Personally, I feel it to be a slight, if somewhat insignificant improvement.
    My Thoughts:
    Two years of Playing GGE: Independent Alliance and None Ruby Players
    How GGS handles our Feedback

    Why I decided to Leave
    Thoughts on the Legendary Update

    Achieved title of "the terrible", on the 8th of August 2014, without buying rubies, and while playing in an independent alliance.
  • D1237 (US1)D1237 (US1) Posts: 193
    edited 09.01.2015
    *cough*, as I predicted they are going to amend it. No one should worry that much.

    They are going to let you use po and/or research tower recruiting bonuses. How could I not be pleased with that? And no I do not care if it costs rubies to heal demons. GOOD, I dont want people having 'endless' demons anyway.

    They said the times will come down, we will see what that means. Whats odd is, yet somehow unsurprising - why was this update released at all? The damned 'update' was still in beta test mode. Did they really need to ask all of us to figure out the times were too long? Someone is out of touch.
    D1237 @ usa 1

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  • DaveHero0 (GB1)DaveHero0 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 258
    edited 09.01.2015
    A step in the right direction but still not far enough
    DaveHero0 @ en 1
  • CharlesCastle (US1)CharlesCastle (US1) Posts: 187
    edited 09.01.2015
    triangle wrote: »
    But... Why would it be "instead"? Healing troops in the hospital does not prevent you from recruiting troops in the barracks

    The point is it is cheaper to recruit new units rather than heal old ones if you do anything other than 5 + 1.
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