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50-0-50 Defense formation

dueltheabdul (INT1)dueltheabdul (INT1) Posts: 1,715
edited 10.12.2013 in Players ask Players
How does a 50-0-50 defense formation work? Why is it better than other formations? What advantages and disadvantages does it have? And when I should use it?

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  • clive100clive100 Posts: 391
    edited 19.06.2013
    it isnt better and not good you should go for the 3 flanks (33-34-33 or 30-40-30) or the two flanks (53%-47%) i normally use the 50-0-50 % in my ice world but mostly use the 2 flanks for robber barron and most times i use 2 flanks for player attack but if they attack with 2 flanks i will use 3 flanks
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  • UrbaneCrib0UrbaneCrib0 Posts: 494
    edited 19.06.2013
    I just use 33-34-33, with a lot of defense tools.
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  • DClucasDClucas Posts: 159
    edited 19.06.2013
    33-34-33 is the worst possible defence formation you could use! 100-0-0 and 0-0-100 are the best formations; even 50-0-50 is better than 33-34-33. 33-34-33 defence is bad because it allows attackers to defeat the flanks easily and gain +30% power at the keep-and makes you lose lots more men than if you used 100-0-0/0-0-100 or even 50-0-50.

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  • clive100clive100 Posts: 391
    edited 19.06.2013
    100-0-0 is bad because if you dont know you lose 30% in the keep if they attack all flanks
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  • ChampionKing35 (US1)ChampionKing35 (US1) US1 Posts: 654
    edited 19.06.2013
    Even the default one (25-50-25) is better than the 33-34-33 as you get the most defenders in the middle where they can attack you with the most. 50-0-50 and 100-0-0 are by far the best.
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  • DClucasDClucas Posts: 159
    edited 19.06.2013
    clive100 wrote: »
    100-0-0 is bad because if you dont know you lose 30% in the keep if they attack all flanks

    No, 100-0-0 is the best if you are attacked when not online as it makes it difficult for the attacker to defeat the flank with all the men on (especially if you have good tools and Vet defenders+equipment). This usually prevents people from getting all 3 flanks won, therefore they wont get +30% at the Keep.
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  • cherib19cherib19 Posts: 53
    edited 19.06.2013
    the 50-0-50 formation is useful when the enemy is sending all his/her soldiers at the gate and not on the flanks. By using this you will be able to get a +30% bonus in the keep which could help a lot.
  • J.I. Joe2J.I. Joe2 Posts: 563
    edited 19.06.2013
    clive100 wrote: »
    it isnt better and not good you should go for the 3 flanks (33-34-33 or 30-40-30) or the two flanks (53%-47%) i normally use the 50-0-50 % in my ice world but mostly use the 2 flanks for robber barron and most times i use 2 flanks for player attack but if they attack with 2 flanks i will use 3 flanks

    I don't think you have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

    Taking a powerfull attack head-on in the hopes of killing the most soldiers off-hand, 0-100-0 is by far the best.
    Avoiding the enemy to get into your keep with the +30% advantage, 100-0-0 or 0-0-100 is also the best.
    Defeating a weak attack where the attacker didn't use enough tools or against RBs, 50-0-50 may do the job with relative ease.
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  • Hrsha (EG1)Hrsha (EG1) EG1 Posts: 1
    edited 19.06.2013
    Hey guys i have question

    u all talking about 0.0.100 ore 50.0.50
    because u will gain 30% bonus from the attacker and he won't get that bonus right?
    but if the attacker won any part of the castle right or middle or left
    if he even won 2 flanks he won't win your resources and golds ?
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  • AnsonWarriorAnsonWarrior Posts: 12
    edited 19.06.2013
    It should be 0-0-100 because it you win this flank the attacker and you will be 0% when in the keep. It works best if you are level 70 when you have tower lv. 5 because you will have 400 defenders on the right or left flank and the attacker could only place 360 soldiers. Also if you have castle wall lv.5 + 2 machicolations and 2 arrow slits, the wall protection will be 215% and the defence on the ranged soldiers will be 260% and if you have castle moat with a fire moat. The moat defence will be 130% and no one will be able to beat you in that flank.:):):)
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  • DClucasDClucas Posts: 159
    edited 19.06.2013
    Hrsha wrote: »
    Hey guys i have question

    u all talking about 0.0.100 ore 50.0.50
    because u will gain 30% bonus from the attacker and he won't get that bonus right?
    but if the attacker won any part of the castle right or middle or left
    if he even won 2 flanks he won't win your resources and golds ?

    only the attacker can get a bonus of 30% at the Keep if they win all 3 flanks. The attacker cannot win gold/rubies from another player-they can only defeat tower/rbcs for gold. They will only loot resources if they win the attack completely.
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  • Hrsha (EG1)Hrsha (EG1) EG1 Posts: 1
    edited 19.06.2013
    DClucas wrote: »
    only the attacker can get a bonus of 30% at the Keep if they win all 3 flanks. The attacker cannot win gold/rubies from another player-they can only defeat tower/rbcs for gold. They will only loot resources if they win the attack completely.

    so.. if i protect 1 flank as well i won't lose any resources ?
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  • ShadowSlayer (US1)ShadowSlayer (US1) Posts: 525
    edited 19.06.2013
    I would say 50-0-50 is as good, in some cases better, than 100-0-0. If the attackers are stopped on one flank in 100-0-0, then no one gets a bonus at the keep battle. But if the attackers are stopped on both flanks in 50-0-50, then you (the defender) get an advantage in the keep. If your army is weaker, I would recommend 100-0-0, but if your defense army is strong with ruby tools and special troops, I would say go with 50-0-50
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  • jema3 (US1)jema3 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,110
    edited 19.06.2013
    I would say 50-0-50 is as good, in some cases better, than 100-0-0. If the attackers are stopped on one flank in 100-0-0, then no one gets a bonus at the keep battle. But if the attackers are stopped on both flanks in 50-0-50, then you (the defender) get an advantage in the keep. If your army is weaker, I would recommend 100-0-0, but if your defense army is strong with ruby tools and special troops, I would say go with 50-0-50

    I agree with part of what you said. I think if your army is weaker you have to go 50-0-50 to win the bonus in the keep because you do not want a fair fight in the keep. Also if your army is weaker you want to be able to utilize tools to get an advantage in a second flank instead of letting your attackers stronger troops just waltz through the wall and meet you in the keep for a "fair fight". You use your tools to make your troops stronger.
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  • BobwormercastleBobwormercastle Posts: 265
    edited 20.06.2013
    It depends on what the attacker is sending at you. The 33-34-33 or 25-50-25 are never good except in very weak attacks with very little assault tools. I would leave your defenses in every castle with a 100-0-0, but have good gate tools and extra wall/moat tools handy in case you switch your formation to 50-0-50 or another formation in the event of an attack. As I said, it depends on what the attacker's troops, tool quality, and commander is like. It also depends on what troops, tools, and castellan you have as the defender. You will learn this from experience as you level up and get into more advanced battles/wars.
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  • BadgameBadgame Posts: 399
    edited 20.06.2013
    Is 0-100-0 formation good?
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  • WiseMatt (INT3)WiseMatt (INT3) INT3 Posts: 52
    edited 20.06.2013
    0-100-0 is good, but it requires a good castellan, good tools and well developed castle to work. Then a 0-100-0 will be better than 50-0-50. But it should not be used for offline setups since any decent attacker can break through it if he knows how it is set up :)
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  • marc58 (GB1)marc58 (GB1) GB1 Posts: 836
    edited 20.06.2013
    Hi All
    I have read though all the post on this and am a little confused, I am quite new to the game even tho I have reached lvl 37 ( but building the castle is easy)> Are you saying that its best to have 0 troops at the front when attacked ie is this 50-0-50 that you are talking about and then some are saying 100-0-0 I take that means all troops on one flank ( sorry for sounding thick), at the min on all attacks I have it spread even.
    many thx marc
  • op gabbe (SKN1)op gabbe (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 30
    edited 20.06.2013
    100-0-0 is the best!
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  • edited 20.06.2013
    when you are offline, always set your defenses to either 0-0-100 or 100-0-0 and use melee tools.

    when you are online you can arrange your defenses according to the attack.

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