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Quit Complaining About Rubies

Sajeous VandSajeous Vand Posts: 689
I am tired of people complaining about rubies and asking for resource buildings to replace ruby buildings. If there was an easier way, why spend rubies? If you guys want to get rid of rubies, you'll be making the game bankrupt.

Rubies aren't hard to get, anyway. I'm level 31 and I've never bought rubies, and I've built two bakeries and a drill ground and I've donated 302, and I still have 547. If you put in the time and effort, you can get rubies.

And don't complain about the unfair advantage. People spend their hard earned cash on the game. If you don't want to spend cash, that's your problem. I think the advantage is well set. It gives ruby players an edge in battle without making them completely unstoppable. With a little intellect, you can overcome that advantage.

My whole point of this thread is: quit complaining about rubies! You're just wasting our time when we could be reading something on here that's actually important or helpful.

Thank you.

Sajeous Vand
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  • BestofluckBestofluck Posts: 53
    edited 24.04.2013
    exactly. I spend money on rubies, money I earn at a JOB. where I work 50 hours a week doing menial labor. So if spending actual money on rubies gives me an advantage fine. I work 50 hours a week to have that luxury.
    Bestofluck @ WWW 1
  • TJIVTJIV Posts: 7
    edited 24.04.2013
    And, that gives you 50 fewer hours a week to play. You get a disadvantage with that advantage.
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  • magicsss17magicsss17 Posts: 549
    edited 24.04.2013
    that is the nice part.
    this money spent helps save time for those who don't have as much due to their job.
    I'm disappointed with the cost of this game compared to what you actually gain.
    yes you will be extremely strong compared to a guy who doesn't save any rubies and wastes them all without earning any from hard work but over others the advantage for spending tons of money really is quite terrible.
    This is an execelent value for a free game but very very poor value for those who pay.
    $5-$10 a month on a normal game nets you a nice advantage... on here it means jack squat.
    magicsss17 @ WWW 1
  • swag like ohio3swag like ohio3 Posts: 1,853
    edited 24.04.2013
    I am tired of people complaining about rubies and asking for resource buildings to replace ruby buildings. If there was an easier way, why spend rubies? If you guys want to get rid of rubies, you'll be making the game bankrupt.

    Rubies aren't hard to get, anyway. I'm level 31 and I've never bought rubies, and I've built two bakeries and a drill ground and I've donated 302, and I still have 547. If you put in the time and effort, you can get rubies.

    And don't complain about the unfair advantage. People spend their hard earned cash on the game. If you don't want to spend cash, that's your problem. I think the advantage is well set. It gives ruby players an edge in battle without making them completely unstoppable. With a little intellect, you can overcome that advantage.

    My whole point of this thread is: quit complaining about rubies! You're just wasting our time when we could be reading something on here that's actually important or helpful.

    Thank you.

    Sajeous Vand

    Couldn't agree more. I only bought once and it was a Christmas eve gift exchange present form my dad.
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  • Zub-ZubZub-Zub Posts: 743
    edited 24.04.2013
    I agree with this. I wish I could buy rubies, and I wish I could have the advantage they give, but the people who pay A) keep the game running, and B) they spend the money. Don't want to spend money, don't buy rubies and don't complain. It is also quite possible to get a fair amount of rubies from sources other than buying them. This is not true everwhere, so we are lucky.
    "I hate to tell you this, but there are ALWAYS going to be new things that cost rubies. Given thats how we fund the game that is not going to change." -CM Malreyn

    FINALLY some honesty. Thank you CM Malreyn.


    Go HERE, or FACE MY WRATH! :)
    Zub-Zub @ usa 1
  • Sam4 (GB1)Sam4 (GB1) Posts: 464
    edited 25.04.2013
    I am tired of people complaining about rubies and asking for resource buildings to replace ruby buildings. If there was an easier way, why spend rubies? If you guys want to get rid of rubies, you'll be making the game bankrupt.

    Rubies aren't hard to get, anyway. I'm level 31 and I've never bought rubies, and I've built two bakeries and a drill ground and I've donated 302, and I still have 547. If you put in the time and effort, you can get rubies.

    And don't complain about the unfair advantage. People spend their hard earned cash on the game. If you don't want to spend cash, that's your problem. I think the advantage is well set. It gives ruby players an edge in battle without making them completely unstoppable. With a little intellect, you can overcome that advantage.

    My whole point of this thread is: quit complaining about rubies! You're just wasting our time when we could be reading something on here that's actually important or helpful.

    Thank you.

    Sajeous Vand

    I think you've made all the correct points as to why people shouldn't complain about rubies. However there are some serious reasons people should complain about rubies, and I'll tell you why.

    Because GGE have created bug heaven in the past few days. They've created bugs in things that have been running normally for months, chat, clicking on castle icons, buildings going missing, private messages. They've also run an event again that is bugged to the teeth, it's the third time they've run it and they STILL cannot get it right.

    I personally don't think they should run berimond unless it's bug free, they've had long enough to sort that out. It's not even small insignificant bugs, it's really important things - armies going missing, camps that cannot be destroyed, travel times that are completely false...

    And yet they still believe we should spend rubies, when I'm sorry but it's a load of crap. No company sells faulty goods like this time and time again. I'll like to reiterate - they've run it 3 times, and still there are huge faults in the game play. Don't run the damn event if its not bug free.

    You think people should spend rubies on a faulty game that GGE don't seem to bother fixing? I don't. No you don't have to buy rubies but the fact is that people want to because it's supposed to create further enjoyment and advantages in the game. Again, if GGE can't provide a simple working event, don't run it, and don't allow people to waste their money on it. Make it work, then sell it - you'd have thought that would be obvious.
    Sam4 - Leader of EPICNESS @UK1
  • vantomalvantomal Posts: 178
    edited 25.04.2013
    And yet Sam......people still put out the rubies, and so long as they do that means there is more right with the game than wrong, at least as far as the paying customer is concerned. SO there will be little change until they see a real and serious drop in ruby buyers. It is a fact, unfortunate but a fact.
    vantomal @ usa 1
  • Sam4 (GB1)Sam4 (GB1) Posts: 464
    edited 25.04.2013
    vantomal wrote: »
    And yet Sam......people still put out the rubies, and so long as they do that means there is more right with the game than wrong, at least as far as the paying customer is concerned. SO there will be little change until they see a real and serious drop in ruby buyers. It is a fact, unfortunate but a fact.

    True very true - if only people would stop. I mean, everyone buy rubies, quick.
    Sam4 - Leader of EPICNESS @UK1
  • Sajeous VandSajeous Vand Posts: 689
    edited 25.04.2013
    Sam4 what you said has nothing to do with the points I've made. If you want to complain about GGS management create your own thread. Actually don't, we already have more than enough of those.
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    A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.
    ― C.S. Lewis

    If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world.
    ― C.S. Lewis

    Sajeous Vand @ usa 1
  • calvesKAZZcalvesKAZZ Posts: 233
    edited 25.04.2013
    ITT: People who ride tractors
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  • lordsaruman (US1)lordsaruman (US1) US1 Posts: 926
    edited 25.04.2013
    Bestofluck wrote: »
    exactly. I spend money on rubies, money I earn at a JOB. where I work 50 hours a week doing menial labor. So if spending actual money on rubies gives me an advantage fine. I work 50 hours a week to have that luxury.

    Ill be working 40 hours a week this summer. 1/3 of my budget will go to rubies while the rest goes to food.
    Lordsaruman int'1 former US1 member

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  • Duterte (INT1)Duterte (INT1) Posts: 179
    edited 25.04.2013
    Ill be working 40 hours a week this summer. 1/3 of my budget will go to rubies while the rest goes to food.

    LOL. You gotta pay internet connection too to play... :D
    BraveHeart @ au 1
  • Sam4 (GB1)Sam4 (GB1) Posts: 464
    edited 25.04.2013
    Sam4 what you said has nothing to do with the points I've made. If you want to complain about GGS management create your own thread. Actually don't, we already have more than enough of those.

    Your title is 'quit complaining about rubies'. Firstly you're a level 31 who doesn't even buy rubies, and so is completely out of the 'know' when it comes to spending money on them. Your thread is frankly pointless given this fact, as you lack any experience into the reasons why people get annoyed. Secondly you posted an isolated, one sided argument why people shouldn't complain.... I told you why you should - because rubies remain the same, and yet you're expected to spend them on a broken game.

    Get off the forum if you can't bear to hear other people's opinion. :)
    Sam4 - Leader of EPICNESS @UK1
  • John CJohn C Posts: 5
    edited 25.04.2013
    Totally agree with you Sam!!

    If I sell a faulty product, people return it back to me and I have to give them their money back. It does not work the same way here unfortunately.
    John C @ en 1
  • MaJeStiicMaJeStiic Posts: 367
    edited 25.04.2013
    I am tired of people complaining about rubies and asking for resource buildings to replace ruby buildings. If there was an easier way, why spend rubies? If you guys want to get rid of rubies, you'll be making the game bankrupt.

    Rubies aren't hard to get, anyway. I'm level 31 and I've never bought rubies, and I've built two bakeries and a drill ground and I've donated 302, and I still have 547. If you put in the time and effort, you can get rubies.

    And don't complain about the unfair advantage. People spend their hard earned cash on the game. If you don't want to spend cash, that's your problem. I think the advantage is well set. It gives ruby players an edge in battle without making them completely unstoppable. With a little intellect, you can overcome that advantage.

    My whole point of this thread is: quit complaining about rubies! You're just wasting our time when we could be reading something on here that's actually important or helpful.

    Thank you.

    Sajeous Vand

    This is great and all, but the problem is you are no where close to level 60, and you have no idea how many rubies it takes to keep up once you get there. The game is designed so that at your level it seems "easy." When you need 16,000 rubies for the level 4 bakery you wont be thinking thats so easy.

    I also spend LOADS of money on this game (even though I shouldn't). Keep on playing and you might find yourself understand why people complain ;)
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  • MiscLegionnaireMiscLegionnaire Posts: 7
    edited 25.04.2013
    Sam4 wrote: »
    I think you've made all the correct points as to why people shouldn't complain about rubies. However there are some serious reasons people should complain about rubies, and I'll tell you why.

    Because GGE have created bug heaven in the past few days. They've created bugs in things that have been running normally for months, chat, clicking on castle icons, buildings going missing, private messages. They've also run an event again that is bugged to the teeth, it's the third time they've run it and they STILL cannot get it right.

    I personally don't think they should run berimond unless it's bug free, they've had long enough to sort that out. It's not even small insignificant bugs, it's really important things - armies going missing, camps that cannot be destroyed, travel times that are completely false...

    And yet they still believe we should spend rubies, when I'm sorry but it's a load of crap. No company sells faulty goods like this time and time again. I'll like to reiterate - they've run it 3 times, and still there are huge faults in the game play. Don't run the damn event if its not bug free.

    You think people should spend rubies on a faulty game that GGE don't seem to bother fixing? I don't. No you don't have to buy rubies but the fact is that people want to because it's supposed to create further enjoyment and advantages in the game. Again, if GGE can't provide a simple working event, don't run it, and don't allow people to waste their money on it. Make it work, then sell it - you'd have thought that would be obvious.

    pretty good points, agreed
    MiscLegionnaire @ usa 1
  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 25.04.2013
    Stop complaining about the complainers or I'll make a complaint!
    It's been a while.....



  • AnsonWarriorAnsonWarrior Posts: 12
    edited 27.04.2013
    You can get about 200 or 500 rubies attacking a dragon
    AnsonWarrior @ usa 1
  • HobeeHobee Posts: 106
    edited 27.04.2013
    MaJeStiic provides the most astute observation in this thread:

    "The game is designed so that at your level it seems 'easy.' When you need 16,000 rubies for the level 4 bakery you wont be thinking thats so easy."

    I'm not yet near level 60, either. But extrapolating from everything I read in these forums, it appears to me that--among high-level players--only the ones who purchase rubies can be both superb attackers and superb defenders of other high-level players. High-level players who do not purchase rubies basically must choose which they want to be superb at...attacking or defending, with respect to other high-level players.

    Assuming I've extrapolated correctly, that is the primary flaw of this game: high-level ruby-purchasers receive not just efficiency advantages, but a fundamentally different play/relationship experience, regarding other high-level players. This makes the virtual world less rich than it could be, for all high-level players (no matter how many rubies they buy or don't buy).

    -- Hobee
    Hobee @ usa 1
  • jasper22 (INT1)jasper22 (INT1) Posts: 277
    edited 27.04.2013
    You got some good points. It is definitely possible to earn a decent amount of ruby’s in game, a player from my alliances ones made a couple 1000 ruby’s in 1 week.

    However you are wrong if you truly think a non-ruby can beat a serious ruby user in a 1 on 1 fight if both of them got equal skill. The game balance used to be not to bad when I first started playing many moons ago. Back then there were no armorer tools no veteran overseers and bakery only went to level 3. But today ggs made the game very imbalanced in my opinion.

    A player from my alliance family ones calculated the effect of normal + veteran overseers + bakery level 4 and if I remember it right this allows a ruby player to have more than 100% the army size a non-ruby player has. Do you really think a advantage this big is fair? Back in the day it was more like 50% which I think was a big enough advantages there was no need for bakery level 4 or veteran overseers.

    Second thing that really messed up the balance is armorer tools. I have been playing this game both white and whiteout ruby’s and I can guarantee that if all things are equal there is no way you will beat someone that uses armorer tools whit regular tools in a 1 on 1 fight.

    Maybe at your low level they balance is better but for high level players the balance is really messed up and therefore I think it is understandable that a lot off players complain about it.
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