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Irelands basicly devided by religion,when britan took over Ireland they imported protestants,who forced catholic Irish from thier land most of wich were in the north so the country split after the war of independence
Do you even hear yourself? Racism is inciting hatred, by definition.
Racism is the act of holding a belief that a certain race (stereotypically "white" people) are superior to others, or that a specific race is inferior. Being racist clearly indicates that you [don't] value another person based on their skin colour because of whatever reason, something I would describe as "offensive" when those views are expressed, whether on the internet or in real life.
It may be that racism is "the way forward". It may turn out that black people are, on average, 60% less intelligent than white people, or that white people are 30% more likely to die of bad health. But I've never seen any evidence that even remotely suggests anything like that - all I see is a history of brutal murder and horrible discrimination based on some people not understanding why others look slightly different to them. The same goes for homophobia, religious discrimination, prejudice against a political party and discrimination against people with disabilities - I may not be black, gay, religious, interested in politics or disabled, but I do think it's wrong to persecute people purely based on something that they often don't control themselves, when there's absolutely no good reason for it.
As for this being within any laws - many countries severely punish it, and many don't have any laws against this type of discrimination, but this particular game has expressed rules and conditions, one of which is the rule banning racism. You agreed to this when you signed up for the game, and GGS can ban you for anything clearly against the rules whether there's a good reason for it or not (excluding some things which would break German law, but that's not the case here, and won't be the case until GGS hang a large sign saying "BLACK ****S AREN'T ALLOWED HERE", which I doubt will ever happen based on their current policy of outlawing racism and offensive language).
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We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
We just wanna make the world dance
Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)
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"The nine grounds on which discrimination is outlawed by the Equal Status Acts are as follows:
Gender
Civil status
Family status
Sexual orientation
Religious belief
Age
Disability
Race colour, nationality, ethnic or national origins
Membership of the Traveller community"
"prohibit discrimination in the provision of goods and services, the disposal of property and access to education"
This has nothing to do with social politics. It's more along the lines of business, for example, if I owned a shop, I would be legally objected to serve a person of any of the above. Although, you do see a lot of commercial discrimination against Muslims in western countries, especially England. Along with the police turning a blind eye to it.
Why is Ireland divided? Where do I start, firstly the king of Leinster enlisted the help of foreign Norman mercenaries to help him conquer the other provinces. This was during the 13th century and the Norman's attempted to exterminate the native Irish, forcing them to rural areas. Ireland came under British union during the Cromwellian invasion, Cromwell with the funding of Dutch-Jews formed the "New Model Army" which invaded eastern Ireland, and attacked an Irish stronghold in Drogheda. Cromwell promised the inhabitants after a bitter struggle, that if they surrendered, their lives would be spared. They agreed, and once inside the castle, Cromwell ordered his troops to slaughter every Catholic. He continued using these cowardly tactics throughout Ireland until it came under British union. Ireland slowly became Anglicized.
The divide came in 1921-1922, when in 1916 Dublin came under siege by the IRA under the command of Padraig Pearse. This was the start of the war of independence, in which the IRA launched a number of successful ambushes against British patrols. The British responded by enlisting prisoners and WWI veterans to hold up British colonialism in Ireland. They burned churches and beat innocent Irish people until they were eventually executed by IRA battalions and Britain called for a truce. The Anglo-Irish treaty was signed in 1921 which granted the independence of 26/32 counties of Ireland, the North was mainly Unionist held and was to remain under British control.
I know quite a lot about history, and specifically, Irish history. If you have any questions let me know.
Racism, in itself, is not inciting hatred. I understand that people often become offended by racist beliefs and opinions, to which they often respond with making an ad hominem attack. However these are often small minded people, whose choose to ignore the different qualities of races. As you said, racism is defined as a belief that one race is superior to another, which is more of a fact than a belief. There are superior races, and races are never exactly equal. Let's take intelligence for example, you say you have not seen anything to suggest that whites are on average more intelligent than a black. Well here is chart that has undertaken the average IQ of each race...
If you need any more information regarding the intelligence of races, click here.
I disagree that this is not something people can help. If, for example, two black people intended to have a child, they should know that it most likely be inferior to others. Genetically, this cannot be changed. And if a person wants to bring a child of a certain inferior race into this world, they should know it will be discriminated against. Racism is not the same as sexism, sexism suites your defence in your previous post. For you cannot chose which sex you want your child to be, anyone could have a child of either gender. Sexism is useless and should be illegal, racism however, should not.
There have been many intelligent, famous, heroic & noble people who hold racist beliefs. Gandhi, Che Guevara & Henry Ford come to mind. But first and foremost, is Abraham Lincoln. Contrary to popular belief, Lincoln abolished slavery, he was never fighting for the freedom or equality of the black race. This is a statement he once mate, it's worth reading...
"I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people ... I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone."
"they did not mean to declare all men equal in all respects. They did not mean to say all men were equal in color, size, intellect, moral development or social capacity. They defined with tolerable distinctness in what they did consider all men created equal - equal in certain inalienable rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness ... They meant to set up a standard maxim for free society which should be familiar to all: constantly looked to, constantly labored for, and even, though never perfectly attained, constantly approximated, and thereby constantly spreading and deepening its influence and augmenting the happiness and value of life to all people, of all colors, every where."
"What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races."
"I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes- nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which will ever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."
~Abraham Lincoln
Anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to derail this thread. Just trying to justify Racism without being labelled in an ad hominem way as "racist scum". Perhaps if people were more aware and educated, they wouldn't be so anti-racist.
Has it occurred to you that a website which has the slogan ""Just when you think ******s can't sink any lower, they manage to drain just a little more from the cesspool" is highly biased? The so called "facts" you have stated may have been altered and they may have been made up altogether. Even if the person who put the information together intended to make the investigation fair and unbiased, the results may have been swayed by:
a) A long history of black people having very different educations (if any at all) to white people - stupid people often have stupid children, but this won't end up being a factor if countries like the UK and USA manage to just about avoid dividing a line between "white people education" and "black people education".
b) A long history of severe discrimination meaning that certain black people are unable to perform as well - if you're getting bullied during class, how can you concentrate? If some kid steals your textbooks, how can you study?
c) A biased information pool - in certain countries, black people have much less rights to education and it's no surprise that the average IQ there would be lower than for white people.
There are unlimited other things which could have swayed the data one way or another - those are just three that occurred to me straight away.
I can genuinely say that most racist people are scum. People jump on the bandwagon because "it's fun to say ******" and because they think "black jokes" are hilarious. Some people are scarred by random incidents (as with any group of people - I'm sure I'd hate blonde-haired people if 5 of them ganged up and killed my sister). Some are just brought up by biased parents, or listen to stories of elderly expressing how much they hated those black kids back in the 1960s.
You, however, seem to be quite intelligent and informed about this subject. It seems you have done your research, whether the stuff you found out was true, biased or completely false. I personally was not trying to start an ad hominem attack (although I can't talk for others), but my experience of racism has been completely unjustified. Maybe the stereotypes of racists being horrible, amoralistic people are just as pathetically untrue as those of Muslims (terrorists), gays (feminine) or gypsies (well, there's a long list of stuff I could say about them). I guess that no matter how much I try to be open to alternative viewpoints and opinions, there'll always be something that'll catch me out, and make me think that I was completely wrong. When I think about it, yes, all my anti-racist views do come from the government and popular belief... maybe, in 1000 years, people will think that my views are crazy (and not just my fairly extreme opinions about population control).
This thread has been derailed a bit, but racism is an important issue. It's certainly more important than getting a virtual outpost or earning a bit of virtual currency.
"It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
We just wanna make the world dance
Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)
To contact support, you can:
1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
Well firstly, there's a fine difference between intelligence and education. A teacher once told me that you'd learn more from reading a history book than sitting in the back of a class in school daydreaming all year.
I disagree on the view that blacks have been very different educations, thus leading them to be unintelligent. There are currently over 40,000 blacks in Ireland which the Irish government gives over €80 Million a year to house, support & educate. I come from a working class background, my family worked very hard to ensure I alongside with my siblings were given a good education (to which, we are still in debt with). I went to school with blacks whose parents had just landed in Ireland from the slums of places such as Nigeria, and were given free housing and education. At the end of the education, they were almost as clueless as they were when first attending. So under those terms, I would say that blacks are given more of a chance at education than us hard working, organised whites.
As for your second conclusion, I firmly believe it's more probable for a black child to steal a textbook or stationary. Given their statistics on crime, and in particular theft. According to the Bureau Of Justice, blacks are eight times more likely to commit robbery than any other race. And of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85% and whites commit 15%.
That's a bit harsh to say most racist people are scum, you'd be surprised how many people hold racist views. But they are silenced through intimidation. Growing up I was constantly told that racism is bad, and if I held racist beliefs that I would be attacked by blacks....which is quite ironic. Either way, the more I ventured into the world of history and politics, it seems that racism is more a matter of a patriotic and conservative political ideology rather than a view of hate towards a race. One cannot truly be proud of their countrymen and history without holding a racist belief.
I understand your point of view also. Hatred against Islam has risen in the past few years when there was certain terrorist attacks committed by a small minority of Muslims. Have you ever read the Quran? I've studied it for quite a while now and can safely say it's far from the "evil" religion the media would portray. As for gypsies, well, let's take those 'Irish' travellers that are popping up all over England. Quite honestly, they are an embarrassment to Ireland. Firstly the word 'gypsy comes from travellers who came from Egypt, hence, making them not Irish but Egyptian. Also, interbreeding is rife in the travelling community. A friend of mine works in the child protection services here in Ireland and last week had a case involving gypsy children who were being abused by their father. It's also laughable how these gypsies complain people are being "racist" for attacking him, though they are not even a race!
Firstly, this is a topic about accounts being suspended. If you want to talk about the issues of racism please take it to a different thread that is in the correct area since it is not connected directly to the game.
Secondly, i caution you all on statements that could be made on the topic of racism. It would only take one person to make a complaint about the issue and i would have to shut the whole thing down. Personally whilst i do believe it is a sensitive issue i don't see it as having a place on these forums.
Regards,
Malreyn
Numberzero:
We don't discuss players breaking the rules on the forums. Contact SUPPORT and report the player. Also, don't double post - use the EDIT button. And when you waited 2 minutes before posting again, it's no surprise that no-one had done anything yet.
It is NOT against the rules to threaten players with in-game threats e.g. "give me 1000 food per day or I'll attack you". However, it IS against the rules if, and only if, the player did use bad language in his messages to you.
"It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
We just wanna make the world dance
Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)
To contact support, you can:
1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
No, it has to do with law, which is the subject you brought up.
Maybe this is why the sun never shines in your neck of the woods.....
It is obvious that you can only open one eye, and only research material that you believe backs up your racist views.
I'd admit it if there was any laws against racism in my country, but there is ABSOLUTELY no laws against it here in Ireland. I've already explained this, stop making me repeat myself.
Hah, I've not researched anything, everything I've posted has just come from my years of studies of history and genetics. You have not posted any information regarding the equality of races, instead, you have just questioned everything I've said. This is the definition of a bigot, you refuse to acknowledge others opinions even though they've provided enough evidence to back their case.