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An RV for everybody!

Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
edited 20.11.2013 in Alliance News & Diplomacy
The RV situation has become a joke. GGS didn't invent RVs so that nobody could fight over them. They were supposed to be fought over from the very beginning. A few large alliances invented the rules a long time ago as a way of keeping their power. I have seen time and time again the leaders of those large alliances telling us that we need to 'suck it up' and 'be more organised'. Well.. that time has finally come!

That's why I am introducing a change to the unwritten rules.

From the 15th of this month, any RV within 10 clicks of your castle is yours to fight for!

Dope Legion will lead the way into a new era. These big alliances don't make the rules anymore, WE DO! We have already gathered a good amount of support for this rule, enough to pack an almighty punch!

Join us on this day and watch the game turn into a fairer place where single alliances can no longer hold so much power!

Stand up for this and fairness will return!

Best wishes, and good luck!

Twaitsy

EDIT; This was meant to be obvious but this was only ever directed at the capital holding alliances, we are currently at war with them, so we are fighting as we see fit. Please stop posting about RVs, our current aim is to fight against capital alliances only.
Twaitsy
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  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 05.11.2013
    Good luck, you'll be needing it.

    ......oh..... don't forget to stock up on the charcoal briquettes :)
    It's been a while.....



  • jimbojetsetjimbojetset Posts: 15
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    Dope Legion will lead the way into a new era.

    Twaitsy

    An era of being burned beyond recognition.....Have at it!!
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]jimbojetset @ en 1
  • Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
    edited 05.11.2013
    We're not relying on luck alone Baldrick, perhaps we have a 'cunning plan'. (sorry, I just couldn't resist)

    Not sure if I need will need charcoal but bring some over anyway so we can get a BBQ going. ;-)

    You will like my BBQs Baldrick, every one returns to their castles with a doggy bag!
    Twaitsy
  • cyberhencyberhen Posts: 329
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    The RV situation has become a joke. GGS didn't invent RVs so that nobody could fight over them. They were supposed to be fought over from the very beginning. A few large alliances invented the rules a long time ago as a way of keeping their power. I have seen time and time again the leaders of those large alliances telling us that we need to 'suck it up' and 'be more organised'. Well.. that time has finally come!

    That's why I am introducing a change to the unwritten rules.

    From the 15th of this month, any RV within 10 clicks of your castle is yours to fight for!

    Dope Legion will lead the way into a new era. These big alliances don't make the rules anymore, WE DO! We have already gathered a good amount of support for this rule, enough to pack an almighty punch!

    Join us on this day and watch the game turn into a fairer place where single alliances can no longer hold so much power!

    Stand up for this and fairness will return!

    Best wishes, and good luck!

    Twaitsy

    I'm glad we have a pact with Dope Legion, at least our rvs are safe.
    cyberhen @ en 1

    Official moat duck trainer
    Black belt 3rd Dan in Origami

    Will I ever learn everything about this game?
  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 05.11.2013
    Well firstly, I think you need to understand fully how RVs and RV attacks work in the game,and why there are these unwritten (although it is quite well recorded) rules.

    These rules are not intended to protect only the strongest alliances. They are designed to retain balance amongst all players who have villages, regardless of level or alliance. The reasons these rules exist is because if they weren't there, then the game would consist of mostly village battles and all our resources, troops, tools, coins and rubies wold be spent fighting over them.

    The reason the strongest alliances hold the majority of villages is two fold:

    1: The number of villages available is set by GGS and there will never be enough to go around.

    2: We are the strongest, and the strongest will always have more than everyone else, no matter what crusade you are on or how unfair it may seem.

    These rules are not designed to keep the villages in the strongest alliances, that would happen anyway, the rules exist so we don't spend all our energy fighting over them with no honour or glory benefits.

    The idea that everyone could capture the villages around their castles and manage to hold them is naive to say the least. You may manage to capture some, but if your new order is taken up by everyone, you'll lose them the same day to someone stronger.

    All that will really happen is that those initially stealing the villages will be declared upon by those they are attacking and will spend the next 6 months putting our fires and end up with no RVs at all. Keep what you already have, it's probably the most you'll get until you can defend them as well as those who currently hold them.

    Now don't get me wrong, I realise there is imbalance in the new kingdoms, and I'm one of the first to say that, but this crusade is one that will be detrimental to those who undertake it and the villages will end up back where they are now, in the hands of the strongest.

    If you do decide to venture into this then I wish you luck, it will certainly spice things up for a few days.

    P.S. Don't forget them charcoal briquettes.
    It's been a while.....



  • Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
    edited 05.11.2013
    Baldrick wrote: »
    the rules exist so we don't spend all our energy fighting over them [/QUOTE

    Did you really just say that?

    C'mon, of course you guys will disagree with this, you have more to lose than any other alliance.

    This is the right thing to do!

    It's stupid, over ambitious and a mammoth task, but what choice do we have? We have to suck it up right?

    You say a few days but we're pretty relentless when it comes down to it.

    We won't stop taking them, so deal with it however you see fit.

    Stocking up on charcoal as we speak!
    Twaitsy
  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    C'mon, of course you guys will disagree with this, you have more to lose than any other alliance.

    Actually, no, we'll take them back, it is you who has the most to lose as you will end up with nothing.
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    This is the right thing to do!

    It's stupid, over ambitious and a mammoth task, but what choice do we have? We have to suck it up right?

    You say a few days but we're pretty relentless when it comes down to it.

    We won't stop taking them, so deal with it however you see fit.

    Stocking up on charcoal as we speak!

    Surely you can see that if you remove the rules it will be a free for all?

    The rules that we have protect the villages YOU own too. If you really want to go down this route, what you have will be gone. The idea that you could take the strongest alliances villages but keep your own is just silly really.
    It's been a while.....



  • Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
    edited 05.11.2013
    I'm prepared to lose everything I have to make this happen. If I wake up on the 15th and I still have RVs, I will be shocked!

    Yes it will be a free for all, that's the whole point. RVs are meant to be fought over, and the current rules do only benefit the larger alliances as you clearly pointed out earlier. Those rules cannot continue.

    If it takes 20 players in a level 8 alliance to lead the way forward then so be it, against your hundreds of ruby players, we won't back down, we're not afraid!

    Small alliances must stand together and take some of the power back!

    Down with BSK!!!! We will rise!!!!
    Twaitsy
  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    Down with BSK!!!! We will rise!!!!

    I assume you are including Dark Union & family, Uknighted & family, Epicness and Musketeers & family on your target list?
    It's been a while.....



  • goldfinger2goldfinger2 Posts: 22
    edited 05.11.2013
    Hypothetically speaking, it could work. If they spam attack all of the food rvs of the major alliances, eventually there won't be enough food in the castles of the major alliances, so the number of troops they can keep at a castle - their main advantage - will be lessened.
    Leader of XBlack LegionX @ en 1
  • Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
    edited 05.11.2013
    Baldrick wrote: »
    I assume you are including Dark Union & family, Uknighted & family, Epicness and Musketeers & family on your target list?

    We aren't going to take RVs from alliances that never attack us, that would be plain stupid.

    So, I guess you have to figure that one out for yourself Baldrick, or just wait and see.
    Twaitsy
  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    We aren't going to take RVs from alliances that never attack us, that would be plain stupid.

    So, I guess you have to figure that one out for yourself Baldrick, or just wait and see.

    So what you are saying is rubbish then?

    I thought the idea was for everyone to take what is rightfully theirs from the strongest alliances? But now, it's only from some of the strongest alliances? *facepalm*
    It's been a while.....



  • RdrnnrRdrnnr Posts: 1,615
    edited 05.11.2013
    It appears that BSK is the sole target of this campaign... They want to steal your turnips!!!!!

    Perhaps you could convince DU, UK, etc... to claim all the RV's within 10 clicks of all their castles. Then they wouldn't have any RV's to take :)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Maximum angulo Inferno
  • Giselle3Giselle3 Posts: 243
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »

    From the 15th of this month, any RV within 10 clicks of your castle is yours to fight for!

    Good luck in your endeavor... however, I ask that you consider one, very realistic possibility... as most of us have been around for a long time, as in years, and we've seen many attempts at "uprisings" in the past. The reality is most of them go like this:
    • Alliance A sends messages to dozens of alliances "SO LET'S DO THIS, WE GOT THIS NO FAIL PLAN, IT'LL WORK IF WE ALL STICK TOGETHER, ARE YOU IN?"
    • Alliances B-Z respond "Yeah... we will join you, great idea, those big guys are bad"
    • Alliances C, D, H, M, O all message the big guys "Umm, so these guys are planning something stupid, we don't agree, but just watch out" and those smaller alliances who whisper in our ears we treat well ;)
    • The big day shows up
      Alliance A raises their sword and yells "CHAAAAARRRGGGEEEEEE!!" and runs ahead going at the planned time, only to turn around and go "guys? um.. guys? where is everyone?" :(
    • Big alliances who are the targets then retaliate against the small "organizing" group until they are a pile of embers.
    So, again, I'm not saying, don't go through with your master plan... just saying as Baldrick has indicated, how we treat others on the server is already quite constrained, and is not done just to the benefit of ourselves, but for the health of the server in hopes that other alliances will get stronger.

    But if pushed, we will squash all bugs. :)

    So good luck on the 15th, I, for one, am excited to see what happens. lol
    Giselle @ en 1
  • Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
    edited 05.11.2013
    Baldrick wrote: »
    So what you are saying is rubbish then?

    I thought the idea was for everyone to take what is rightfully theirs from the strongest alliances? But now, it's only from some of the strongest alliances? *facepalm*

    lol! We aren't going to take RVs from alliances we like now are we, *facepalm yourself*
    Twaitsy
  • Twaitsy (GB1)Twaitsy (GB1) GB1 Posts: 419
    edited 05.11.2013
    Giselle3 wrote: »
    [*]Alliances C, D, H, M, O all message the big guys "Umm, so these guys are planning something stupid, we don't agree, but just watch out" and those smaller alliances who whisper in our ears we treat well ;)

    Don't forget that alliance D and H could actually be giving you disinformation for us.... or are they?

    And C, M and O don't exist in this scenario because we are being very transparent.

    Now, can people from RV hogging alliances please stop telling me why this won't work. I'm finding that most alliances actually want this to happen to make the game fair again.
    Twaitsy
  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    lol! We aren't going to take RVs from alliances we like now are we, *facepalm yourself*

    But that is the whole point of your masterplan is it not?

    Should I reword it for you? How about this?


    "From the 15th of this month, any RV within 10 clicks of your castle is yours to fight for! ...erm...unless you can't attack it because we have our own rules for RV attacks.... erm.... oh.

    What happens if there's an RV 8 clicks from you and 8 clicks from one of your other martyrs? Do you fight over it? If not, then give up now because your ethos is in tatters.
    It's been a while.....



  • Giselle3Giselle3 Posts: 243
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    Don't forget that alliance D and H could actually be giving you disinformation for us.... or are they?

    And C, M and O don't exist in this scenario because we are being very transparent.

    Now, can people from RV hogging alliances please stop telling me why this won't work. I'm finding that most alliances actually want this to happen to make the game fair again.

    You missed my point of my experience of history, but yes, I'm sure yours will be the plan that works. :)

    I'm excited, I actually hope you do get a lot of alliances to join. We haven't had a good fight for a while. :)
    Giselle @ en 1
  • RdrnnrRdrnnr Posts: 1,615
    edited 05.11.2013
    Twaitsy wrote: »
    Don't forget that alliance D and H could actually be giving you disinformation for us.... or are they?

    And C, M and O don't exist in this scenario because we are being very transparent.

    Now, can people from RV hogging alliances please stop telling me why this won't work. I'm finding that most alliances actually want this to happen to make the game fair again.

    What you originally called for was making RV fights a constant thing. Pretty much a daily task... Log in, grab some RV's, log out. Next day, log in, grab some RV's to replace the ones that you lost while logged out, rinse and repeat.

    What you are saying now is that you want the RV's to be "re-distributed" so "everyone" has some, but after this adjustment, RV's would be off limits again and the new owners would be able to keep them... I highly doubt that socialism on an online game will work to any great degree. Just sayin'...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

    Maximum angulo Inferno
  • jules Delanyjules Delany Posts: 86
    edited 05.11.2013
    OK Lets look at this with our sensible brain cells just for one moment.
    My Castle in Sands sits right next to an RV owned by the lovely SumanWarrior, leader of The Dark Union.
    This is just one of the many RVs near me owned by other alliances but the most extreme.
    Now as soon as I have a food RV in Sand I will ask her to swap the other for this close one.
    What I will not do, on the say so of an alliance I have nothing to do with is go "Hey it's the 15th November I'm bored with the lack of fires at my castle and always having enough food in Ice, lets go randomly take some RVs simply because of geographic location and see what happens."
    Why won't I do this, because I have a healthy respect for my elders and betters and if I wanted to jump up and down and go "Give me all the RVs I need " I would go back to one of the big alliances, be loyal and stick to their rules and hope be offered RVs to capture as soon as they were available." So instead of throwing ones dollies out of the pram and declaring the situation to be unfair why don't you take some of that energy and start a search pattern and find your own RVs from ruined players or newly spawned players and stop looking for a shortcut thats going to get you, your alliance and anyone daft enough to try this in an awful lot of trouble. I will take back any RV taken from me, my alliance will defend it's RVs and members as we would regardless of any post on the forum or change in alliance description.

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