Nomads Just too Hard?

Thorn6

No point in hitting 60s/70s l have descovered.

Hit 80s. I just hit a 80 and encurred less losses than l did against a 60 under the same conditions but got 3x the tablets!

tresiel

pajeg wrote: »

only 70 ranged, not a big threat

You lost 104 troops and use 124 tools.

You're doing something wrong.

pajeg2 (GB1)

i don't use blue mantle everywhere

I Shall Rise (US1)

Thorn6 wrote: »

No point in hitting 60s/70s l have descovered.

Hit 80s. I just hit a 80 and encurred less losses than l did against a 60 under the same conditions but got 3x the tablets!

Have come to a somewhat similar conclusion myself. I only have level 50-70 though. Level 60s to me just aren't worth it. Not enough tablets to give a worthwhile profit if you use peasants and too many losses (for me at least) to be worthwhile with just resource tools.

Level 50s and 70s are what I am concentrating on, wish I had level 80s available. Level 50s have few enough losses with resource tools the tablet gain is worth it. Level 70s using peasants and the rest resource tools give me a 75-90 tablet profit and have a commensurate troop loss.

If I had more wall reduction on my ranged commander no doubt it would be even more worthwhile and I would incur fewer losses.

Your mileage may vary.

Matty1234

^ Did you use ruby tools "I shall Rise" ??

Captain Bilbo

nomads ARE hard but
as a level 56...
u should be able to manage at least 500 troops, that is how much veterans i have and i am lvl 48
also your commander is good, but could be a lot better, my best commander is +40% strength melee, +40% strength ranged, -30% on wall, -30% gate.

just need to work on tactics
btw i've seen levels 30 - 80

Captain Bilbo

dietonight wrote: »

That's just what the max is. I've got 4 farmhouses, all maxed out, and farming tech maxed out. Also, I upgraded my bakery to Lv 2 just for this, an upgrade that wiped most of the rubies I've saved up since I started playing this game many months ago.

Admittedly, I do have 115 veteran defenders too. I guess I could have shipped them elsewhere to make more food room for more offense. But considering how badly I got slaughtered, I doubt that would have been enough.

Same problem with desert towers in Burning Sands by the way. I'm still looking for my first win against one of those. Seems you need a gigantic army, hundreds of tools, and all near-max legendary equipment just to stand a slight chance against a Lv 35 desert tower.

4 farmhouses? i have 9, the ones with the lowest occupancy rate still produce about 50 per hour, still worth while

I Shall Rise (US1)

Matty1234 wrote: »

^ Did you use ruby tools "I shall Rise" ??

Nope. Just used mock peasants instead of mantlets so that I could reduce the wall and gate bonuses to zero (or close to it) with resource tools. The level 70s aren't tough at all with a decent commander and proper setup.

One thing is since on all the camps I've seen so far you want to send all ranged, you don't want many ranged defenders in the keep or your losses will be much higher. I attack a level 70 on two flanks since there are no additional troops in the keep. I usually take whatever flank has the most ranged. Lime powder bombs and melee aren't a big deal on the flanks since the wall is easily reduced to zero, and so are ranged defenders, so it's not too difficult.

You also want to send as many troops as possible so you have plenty in the keep to avoid extra losses.

The left flank here had three slots lime power bombs, not too bad on the losses.



Overall good coin and tablet profit, I used 39 mock peasants total so 95 tablets profit on this one. And I'm not even very good at them.

Batten (GB1)

I think the intention is that the lower level camps - in my case 60 and 70 - are what you hit whilst you are waiting for the level 80's - or whatever your highest level camps are - to come back into play. I think there are 14 at highest level so potentially players right at the top with big armies could dispatch them in less than a day. Presuming players have carried troops forward from Blade Coast and given there was only about a day between two events lot of players would have had bigger armies than normal to use on the event so could afford more losses.

TarsTarkasjedak (US1)

Ok, here's what I do as a non ruby player hitting lvl 80 nomads. I use the tablets to buy the peasants because you do have to have superior range tools to make it work. a lvl 80 camp gives enough tablets to buy peasants for between 2 and 3 camps so you do gain. then basically I use 90% range commander, range attackers, enough range tools to cancel range defense and ladders and rams. Even attacking with just 250 men I still only lose about 125 per attack against their 1,280 defenders or whatever. I'm making tons of coins too. Idk, All the ppl complaining about how hard they are prob'ly just aren't setting up their tools and such right. I'll admit they look hard at first but they can be done efficiently. Sry, Idk how to get the image fullsize right there.
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Sry posted all this then saw the last guy had done it already. I hadn't read to the end of the thread.

DRAGON_EYE

Can I beat a level 40 camp with 132 2x swords men 15 crossbow men and all the soldiers from the murderous camp, I mean could I get opinions that would be helpful. Could someone give me a brief guide about how to defeat level 40 camps using just soldiers from a level 4 barrack and a few crossbow men that i will acquire from the daily tasks.

DRAGON_EYE

Yes u would win

longshanks

The nomads are not too hard.

GGE has finally done a good job with balancing the nomads and they have fixed the bugs.

If you are struggling with them, you need to be willing to invest a few ruby tools. In addition, a commander with 30-50% gate and wall reduction is preferable.

Remember, nomads are elite level content. They aren't supposed to give away their prizes for free.

Rdrnnr

longshanks wrote: »

The nomads are not too hard.

GGE has finally done a good job with balancing the nomads and they have fixed the bugs.

If you are struggling with them, you need to be willing to invest a few ruby tools. In addition, a commander with 30-50% gate and wall reduction is preferable.

Remember, nomads are elite level content. They aren't supposed to give away their prizes for free.

The commander is key. I moved equipment around just for this, to build a 90 ranged 110 wall 30 gate commander (the +24% loot is just a bonus) and I hit nothing but 80's. Resource tools for the walls/gate and mock peasants for the ranged (occasionally I can even use wood mantlets instead of peasants on a flank). I garner around 150 tablets per hit, after peasant costs, and pull around 60K gold/resources each time. I keep that commander hopping, going on run after run, and am building up tablets nicely, without spending rubies at all. Sure, I'm not hitting 25 nomads a day like the guys spending rubies are, but I should be able to get a full gear set by the time this is done.

As far as losses go, I average around 75-80 per hit. Sometimes more, if there are a lot of melee defenders, sometimes less, if there are a lot of ranged.

pajeg2 (GB1)

if you take care of the ranged, you crush the nomads




if you don't take care of ranged, they crush you

Lord Redfox (US1)

I am a level 39 and only attack level 30 nomads. I find the best way to do it is to espy 3 or 4, until you find some that only have one type of defenders on each part of the walls. That way, I can attack the troops on the wall with the type of troops they are weak against. I only lose on average around 10 troops so per attack and i gain around 8k gold.

Dante Da Hustla

so any one here know which units in specific to use against the nomad camps ?

Praesentya

Dante Da Hustla wrote: »

so any one here know which units in specific to use against the nomad camps ?

Ranged with Mantlets. Always.

Rdrnnr

Praesentya wrote: »

Ranged with Mantlets. Always.

They work against Praesentya too...

Praesentya

Rdrnnr wrote: »

They work against Praesentya too...

So much for being in my brother alliance Rdrnnr ;(