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Nomads Just too Hard?

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  • Billy962Billy962 Posts: 7,420
    edited 29.12.2013
    Exactly. I said it's impossible to do this with resource tools without having huge losses.
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  • Roy Maltby (GB1)Roy Maltby (GB1) Posts: 171
    edited 29.12.2013
    Billy im a non ruby buyer and I'm hitting these level 80s with 75-85 losses not hard at all just buy mock pheasants from them and use them you still make a 100 token profit every hit plus 34k coins without marauder and tons of food
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  • eline VDBeline VDB Posts: 3
    edited 29.12.2013
    when you don't play with robs it is almost impossible to do it
    I loose more than 400 distance soldiers in an attack tot a level 60 for 80 tablets!!!!
    They are all experienced and my command has +90% distance, when I see the losses from players who use robs it is almost nothing but it costs 1500 robs for 1 attack to a levle 60.
    I understand that robs player get ore advantages but it is impossible for non robs players. This is not good but soit it is gg who delas with this
    eline VDB @ nl 1
  • PraesentyaPraesentya Posts: 1,685
    edited 29.12.2013
    eline VDB wrote: »
    when you don't play with robs it is almost impossible to do it
    I loose more than 400 distance soldiers in an attack tot a level 60 for 80 tablets!!!!
    They are all experienced and my command has +90% distance, when I see the losses from players who use robs it is almost nothing but it costs 1500 robs for 1 attack to a levle 60.
    I understand that robs player get ore advantages but it is impossible for non robs players. This is not good but soit it is gg who delas with this

    I have yet to use a single ruby tool on a Level 60, and I lose 70-90 soldiers per hit. If you are losing 400 you are doing something wrong.
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  • Billy962Billy962 Posts: 7,420
    edited 29.12.2013
    Praesentya wrote: »
    I have yet to use a single ruby tool on a Level 60, and I lose 70-90 soldiers per hit. If you are losing 400 you are doing something wrong.

    Really? Can I see a battle report?
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    http://prntscr.com/4ee952

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  • AH1 (AU1)AH1 (AU1) Posts: 45
    edited 29.12.2013
    Billy962 wrote: »
    Really? Can I see a battle report?

    How about two?

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    Bonus:

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    All of these were with resource tools.

    Edit: Fixed images (sort of).
    AH1 @ usa 1
  • Matty1234Matty1234 Posts: 4
    edited 29.12.2013
    I dont get how people can have so much success, i did exactly what was stated with 2 matyr waves to take out tools. Then on the other waves, used 20 mantels and 10 ladders each, but still loss horrendously??
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  • Thorn6Thorn6 Posts: 99
    edited 29.12.2013
    I'm lvl 62 and hitting lvl 60 camps, l encur around 80-100 losses every time and use the first 3 waves as martyr killing of most of the tools. I am using max ranged on that 1 wave of attack.

    Also l am using a 75% ranged commander with 35% wall deduction and 30% gate reduction.
    However on one flank l always have to use ruby mantlets because of an arrow that there is four of so the martyr waves will not destroy... The other sides are just wooden tools.

    AH1 can you please tell me the method and tools used in those attacks versus the lvl 60 camps.
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  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 29.12.2013
    It's easy if you know how. I haven't used a single ruby and I can defeat level 80 camps with between 50 and 70 losses.

    Once you work it out it's simple. Good luck!
    It's been a while.....



  • Thorn6Thorn6 Posts: 99
    edited 29.12.2013
    Baldrick wrote: »
    It's easy if you know how. I haven't used a single ruby and I can defeat level 80 camps with between 50 and 70 losses.

    Once you work it out it's simple. Good luck!

    Can you atleast tell me if l am doing anything wrong lol?
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  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 29.12.2013
    Thorn6 wrote: »
    Can you atleast tell me if l am doing anything wrong lol?

    Okay.....

    Yes, you are doing it wrong :P
    It's been a while.....



  • Thorn6Thorn6 Posts: 99
    edited 29.12.2013
    Baldrick wrote: »
    Okay.....

    Yes, you are doing it wrong :P

    And how could l improve it????????????
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  • Kito2Kito2 Posts: 39
    edited 29.12.2013
    i lost 45 soldiers against a level 40 camp am i doing it right or do i need to change my ataks strat.?
    (no ruby/nomad tools)
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  • happy3690 (GB1)happy3690 (GB1) Posts: 233
    edited 29.12.2013
    did anyone notice in the first battle report shown on the first page the guy didnt spy and he said he had used tools but there uselesss if you dont spy for an example i could send a hundred battering rams but then they could all be ranged defenders so the tolls would have no effect correct me if im wrong as im not entirely sure about this.
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  • Baldrick (GB1)Baldrick (GB1) Posts: 4,948
    edited 29.12.2013
    Sending troops and tools does not mean a glorious victory. Sending the right troops and tools in the correct waves with the right commanders does.

    Spy 100%, look at the report and work out what you need to do. Much easier then throwing troops and tools at something you don't understand.
    It's been a while.....



  • pajeg2 (GB1)pajeg2 (GB1) Posts: 510
    edited 29.12.2013
    AH14 wrote: »
    All of these were with resource tools.

    why don't you show the details then

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    pajeg @ en 1
  • Batten (GB1)Batten (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,104
    edited 29.12.2013
    Just in terms of the point around the amount of loot you get from nomads proportionally I think they are worth hitting. I generate about 20,000 from level 60 camps, 30,000 from level 70 and 40,000 from level 80 camps, I'd imagine the top players get more all of which helps pay the Technicus who helps address some of the equipment issues mentioned above. The level of gold also helps replace the troops you lose.

    I send one wave all ranged with strong ranged commander and tip from au server around using commander with reduced wall protection equipment seems to help. The camps are likes the ships on Blade or towers in thorn they have different strengths so you will lose more troops against some than others. if you are worried about troop losses attack the weakest camps first until you get more confident.

    Key thing is to build as big an army of offensive ranged troops as you can manage and build more troops whilst your attack travels to and from the camp to replace your losses that way you are able to attack again more quickly. Higher level players are probably sending three or four attacks at a time using one wave of troops. Best loss I've managed is 17 troops against a level 60 camp so it is possible level 80 varies depending on troops and tools but losses varies from 30-60. We all lose troops on this event key thing is to stick with it the more you do it the better at it you become.
    Batten @ en 1
  • Thorn6Thorn6 Posts: 99
    edited 29.12.2013
    Batten2 wrote: »
    Just in terms of the point around the amount of loot you get from nomads proportionally I think they are worth hitting. I generate about 20,000 from level 60 camps, 30,000 from level 70 and 40,000 from level 80 camps, I'd imagine the top players get more all of which helps pay the Technicus who helps address some of the equipment issues mentioned above. The level of gold also helps replace the troops you lose.

    I send one wave all ranged with strong ranged commander and tip from au server around using commander with reduced wall protection equipment seems to help. The camps are likes the ships on Blade or towers in thorn they have different strengths so you will lose more troops against some than others. if you are worried about troop losses attack the weakest camps first until you get more confident.

    Key thing is to build as big an army of offensive ranged troops as you can manage and build more troops whilst your attack travels to and from the camp to replace your losses that way you are able to attack again more quickly. Higher level players are probably sending three or four attacks at a time using one wave of troops. Best loss I've managed is 17 troops against a level 60 camp so it is possible level 80 varies depending on troops and tools but losses varies from 30-60. We all lose troops on this event key thing is to stick with it the more you do it the better at it you become.


    Are u using ruby or wooden tools? Count Mock Peasants as ruby tools because l get 80 losses from lvl 60 camps with max ranged wooden mantlets
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  • Batten (GB1)Batten (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,104
    edited 29.12.2013
    I largely use ruby tools. Best combination I've found has been Deathly horrors and nomad hunter tools - step ladders and the walls on wheels on the flanks and burning rams step ladders and rolling walls in the centre. I started with siege walls, belfry's and heavy rams which lose only a few more troops. With vets I lose about between 35 - 50 troops using ruby mantlets. I haven't tried Kingsguard crossbows yet but will do see if it makes any difference some of my colleagues are doing that and seems to have worked okay for them. I do have 3 90% ranged commanders which helps I guess. We are experimenting so hopefully will be able to work something out with non-ruby tools.

    I think the warlord equipment is designed to help players up their ranged percentage upgraded to level 10 it gives you to about 50% ranged bonus which I guess helps for lower level camps.
    Batten @ en 1
  • RoobPlayerRoobPlayer Posts: 85
    edited 29.12.2013
    Baldrick wrote: »
    Once you work it out it's simple. Good luck!
    Do you use mock peasents then?
    6ftdql

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