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The Thorn King

NOTE: THIS IS A GUIDE TO THE ORIGINAL THORN KING. THE THORN KING EVENT THAT TAKES PLACE TODAY IS VERY DIFFERENT.

This event occured between the 24th July and the 24th August 2012.

Here is a step-by-step guide that will hopefully help people complete the monthly event, "The Thorn King". I have not gone into detail about the battles apart from one of them - I have mostly provided what you need to do. Hopefully, you should all be able to fight your own battles - if you are doing this event, you need to be clever enough to work some things out alone. I have included various screenshots of things, including the soldiers you earn and the soldiers you face.

A couple (or maybe more than a couple) of general tips are:

a) Don't spend rubies because you won't get many at the end of this. That means no large tents, no hunter's tents, no ruby decos, no auto-finishing buildings and no auto-troops/resources arrive.
b) Don't attack a tower (or even a resource village) unless you are sure you will win. It takes 2 hours to send troops across, so don't waste the ones you already have.
c) Never attack a medium or large resource village.
d) Follow the quests you are given.
e) Always send either veteran soldiers (or 2-handed swords and heavy crossbow if you don't have veterans yet).
f) Keep your morale high - at the very least at 0, but I recommend +50 or higher if you can manage it.
g) Match melee with ranged and ranged with melee.
h) Don't rush this - you were given a month, so take a month.

Step 0: Are you ready?

Before you start the challenge, ask yourself if you are ready. I personally don't recommend that you enter if you are below level 30, don't have level 5 barracks or aren't willing to lose thousands of coins and hundreds of troops.

Step 1: Enter the Map

Click on the skull near the bottom of the screen: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/232/skullod.png

Donate the necessary wood, stone, food and coins. This shouldn't be too much of a challenge.

Then click on the skull again and enter the map: http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8648/kingdomtravelto.png

Step 2: Start Building

You have been given 1500 wood and stone. Use them to build stuff. I recommend following the quests - build 2 small tents (or large ones for rubies), and use the wood/stone reward and the left over resources to build a supply storage area.

Small tent: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3393/smalltents.png
Supply storage area: http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9509/storagem.png

Step 3: The First Castle

Send over 10 troops - 5 veteran macemen/two-handed swordsmen and 5 veteran crossbowmen/heavy crossbowmen. Wait 2 hours until they arrive. Once they have arrived, click on the first castle and attack it with 5 troops on the left flank and 5 on the right. You should win with no or little losses.

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9606/travelto1sttower
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5388/1towerconquered.png

Step 4: Resource villages

Attack the 2 small resource villages that you have unlocked with the troops you have over and over, until you have very few troops left (I'd say anything less than 10 and you can stop). You may wish to send more troops first, and could build another small tent if you have enough resources. Use the looted resources to build drill grounds (try to keep your morale above +20) and small tents. Expand the camp only when you run out of space.

When you have a capacity of 40 troops and you have 40 in your camp, you should lose 0/1 troops per battle (2 max). This means that you can get a lot of resources with very few troops.

When you attack the villages, always attack the 2 weakest flanks. Send as many troops in the 3 waves to carry loot and to fight in the keep.

For instance, in one village, there were 5 on the left and none on the middle or right. I sent the maximum of 96 troops on the middle and right, so I didn't lose any when they got through to the keep:

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8049/smallvillagereport.png

Small resource village: http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3615/smallvillage.png
Drill ground: http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3830/drillground.png

Step 5: Attack!

Once you feel that you have enough troops to attack the next tower, do so. Make sure that you plan ahead - use heavy crossbows against skeleton warriors and 2-handed swords against skeleton bowmen. Try and attack every castle - don't just clear a path and go straight through to the end. This way you complete more quests and get more rubies and resources.

First 3 sets of towers conquered: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9052/1st3lvlsconquered.png

After attacking some castles, you will complete quests, and earn special soldiers: use these to attack. Do not try to save them until you get near the end of the event because they waste your capacity, and you need all the capacity you can get.

Continue attacking until you reach the fifth tower.

Step 6: The Double Keep Tower

The fifth tower has a double keep (both of them). Now, this doesn't make any difference, or at least no noticeable difference (apart from double the rubies :)), but I have given this it's own step because it is a particularly strong tower. I've given my own battle advice, but other people may have found better ways. By the way, I had 73 morale when I did this attack, so if you have less, expect more losses.

For the fifth tower, I sent 255 troops - 129 2-handed swords and 126 heavy crossbow (I don't have access to veterans... yet). I kept my losses to a minimum (96) because I used tools.

I sent 72 Heavy Xbow and 57 2HS with 8 battering ram and 2 ladders in the middle (wave 1).
I sent 43 2HS, 10 mantlets and 5 ladders on the right (wave 1).
After that, just send as many troops as you can on the other waves, but don't waste tools. You want as many troops in the keep, because out of the 181 soldiers that I got to the keep, 22 died. You may want to consider sending mostly ranged on the 2nd and 3rd (and 4th if you have it) waves, because there are more of their melee soldiers that go into the keep.

Before you attack, I am unsure whether towers in this challenge flip flanks. It would be wise to check, so attack whichever flank is weakest on your espionage.

Other people have used a suicide wave to wipe out tools. I haven't tried that (you can't attack the towers after your 1st victory anyway), but it might be an okay idea. You will obviously lose more troops from the 1st wave, but you would save on tools and that could be better.

If anyone wants to make any alterations to this plan strategy, or anything else I have said, please reply.

Here are screenshots of my battle report. Notice that you get 50 rubies and 1500 coins, a nice bonus.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9044/attackdoublekeeptower.png

Step 7: The Bridge

You have to pay 18,000 wood and stone to complete the bridge. Keep farming those small villages and hold off on the camp upgrades for a bit and you should be done in no time at all. This took me under a day.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4897/bridgeyf.png
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3203/bridge2.png

Step 8: Attack! (again)

Keep attacking these towers and make sure you do attack all of them* - you need all the reward you can get. Try to send at least 1 soldier for every soldier in their castle, but if you use tactics then this is not strictly necessary.

From this point on, there is nothing new - just attack the towers and resource villages and build small tents while keeping a high morale with drill grounds.

The 4th, 5th and 6th towers (with 1 bridge) conquered: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3782/2nd3lvlsconquered.png

*You access the first 6th tower after you build a bridge, but you don't have to build both bridges to defeat. Once you defeat the 7th tower, you unlock the 6th tower that you didn't already defeat. So don't waste 18,000 resources on that second bridge.

Step 9: The Final Castle

Once you reach the final castle, be sure to get every single soldier that your capacity will allow, and make sure that your capacity is as high as your camp will allow. Make sure you have every extension you can, and (again) keep the morale as high as you can*. Try and avoid sending the special soldiers in the attack, or send them in the later flanks (I recommend sending them in wave 3 or 4 just in case), because they are a big part of the reward and you don't want to waste them.

*If you're running out of time, you don't *have* to fully extend the camp. You should be able to do it easily with 400 soldiers (as long as you are using 2HS, HCB, veterans and/or kingsguard) and 300 morale.

When you've beaten this castle, you complete a quest and earn 50 rubies. However, you also get a screen like the one below telling you that you have got 300 rubies. Please do bear in mind that those 300 rubies are only one-third of the total ruby reward, and you get as many soldiers as you managed to save.

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/3262/finishrubies.png

Step 10: Finish!

After you have won, try not to waste any of those special soldiers because they are quite powerful. You can even send in more normal troops if you want.

Once you have defeated the Necromancer's castle, you can click a button which will send the soldiers back (and any resources) and end the event. Don't click it until you've defeated all of the towers or until you're sure that you couldn't defeat another tower with the remaining time left- they have rubies and coins in them and some have a decent amount of resources. You can also complete a series of quests through defeating them.

The button you click to exit the event looks like this: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/648/exiteventlink.png

The total reward is 900 rubies and 500 special soldiers. While you are likely to have lost some of the soldiers along the way, you definitely got all 900 rubies if you defeated every tower. If you didn't, don't worry - you got 400 rubies plus any from the towers, and you defeated at least 9 of them.


Not-really-a-step

Here are the stats for the special soldiers you can earn from the event:

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/1677/knightstatsnew.png
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7549/bowmanstatsnew.png

And here are the stats of them compared to our other troops:

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4316/troopscomparedtoveteran.png


Here are the stats of the troops you have to face:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3276/skeltalbowstats.png
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4746/warriorstats.png


If anyone wants to add to or correct anything I have said in this post, please reply. I am open to suggestions to improve this guide.
BobFighter834 - International 2.

"It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
We just wanna make the world dance
Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)

To contact support, you can:

1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
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Comments

  • ToTheMaxToTheMax Posts: 44
    edited 03.08.2012
    Thanks a lot! When I'll be able I'll use it :)
  • NicKorNicKor Posts: 104
    edited 03.08.2012
    yea thanks bro!! i really needed that attack small resource vill. part!
    Elector NicKor
    Alliance: x_XAssassinsX_x
    Server: International 2
  • Bat88Bat88 Posts: 39
    edited 03.08.2012
    Can you send the resources from the Thorn King event back to the main castle once the necromancer castle is defeated?
    Bat88 @ usa 1
  • BobFighter834 (INT2)BobFighter834 (INT2) Posts: 2,762
    edited 03.08.2012
    Bat88 wrote: »
    Can you send the resources from the Thorn King event back to the main castle once the necromancer castle is defeated?

    I assume so, but I wouldn't count on it just in case you can't. If you can, you might want to attack small villages for some free (or virtually free) resources.

    I'm sure someone else can answer with certainty.
    BobFighter834 - International 2.

    "It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
    We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
    We just wanna make the world dance
    Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)

    To contact support, you can:

    1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
    2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
    3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
  • linkinpark649linkinpark649 Posts: 85
    edited 03.08.2012
    Thanks Bob, it is really helpful :) .
    linkinpark649 @ en 1
  • conner con conconner con con Posts: 37
    edited 03.08.2012
    will do it in 2 levels.
    i am really awesome! contact me at [email protected] con con! i will always respond to messages.


    head supply marshell STF (secret task force)


    i have 5000 shadow mercs so beware!!
  • edited 03.08.2012
    Did you beat the Necromancer's castle? It looks like it has ~400 soldiers in it.

    And thanks for the info!
  • BobFighter834 (INT2)BobFighter834 (INT2) Posts: 2,762
    edited 03.08.2012
    JanTheMan wrote: »
    Did you beat the Necromancer's castle? It looks like it has ~400 soldiers in it.

    And thanks for the info!

    Due to missing 3 days out, I'm only at the bridge. I'm going to miss a week for my holiday as well. It's going to be hard, especially without using rubies, but I've made a timetable for when I want to attack what, and I'm on track so far. :)
    BobFighter834 - International 2.

    "It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
    We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
    We just wanna make the world dance
    Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)

    To contact support, you can:

    1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
    2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
    3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
  • General AndrejGeneral Andrej Posts: 8
    edited 04.08.2012
    Very nice guide.
    P.S>
    step 5a.
    Maybe is better to send weak 1st wave (1-2 HCB/2HS) to clear tools ??
    From picture I see that is only one mat, one arrows, one stone-throwing...
    General Andrej @ WWW 2
  • BobFighter834 (INT2)BobFighter834 (INT2) Posts: 2,762
    edited 04.08.2012
    Very nice guide.
    P.S>
    step 5a.
    Maybe is better to send weak 1st wave (1-2 HCB/2HS) to clear tools ??
    From picture I see that is only one mat, one arrows, one stone-throwing...

    Possibly, but then you're losing troops instead of tools. My tools completely wiped out the mat, arrows and stone-throwing.

    It also means you only have 2 waves to fill. That wouldn't have been a problem for me, but with people with higher capacities it might have been a struggle.

    It's a valid tactic, but I prefer mine. You can still use it, and so can other people.
    BobFighter834 - International 2.

    "It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
    We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
    We just wanna make the world dance
    Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)

    To contact support, you can:

    1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
    2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
    3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
  • bagofricebagofrice Posts: 110
    edited 06.08.2012
    Due to missing 3 days out, I'm only at the bridge. I'm going to miss a week for my holiday as well.

    Same here.
    While I am here, let me just add some notes.
    It is almost impossible to attack the next row if you have not cleared all the towers in the previous one. Getting the first tower of the next row is always harder than getting those in the same row. (You can use the resources earned in the first tower to build a tent).
    You don't need to attack with the same number of troops as the defense if you plan it out. I won the first of the 2 towers in row 4 (before the double keep) with having 30 less soldiers than them. I just paired my melee with their ranged and vice versa.

    A suicide wave (1 soldier) is a good method to remove some tools like their 125% bonus of ranged soldiers.
    Thanks for the guide. I am sure it will help with the double keeps that i plan on doing today or tomorrow.
    bagofrice @ WWW 2
  • BobFighter834 (INT2)BobFighter834 (INT2) Posts: 2,762
    edited 06.08.2012
    bagofrice wrote: »
    You don't need to attack with the same number of troops as the defense if you plan it out. I won the first of the 2 towers in row 4 (before the double keep) with having 30 less soldiers than them. I just paired my melee with their ranged and vice versa...

    Yep - you're right. It was merely a suggestion because otherwise it's hard to judge if you have enough to win.

    A suicidal wave is good if you can fit the rest of your soldiers in waves 2+3. If not, tools might be best (never mind reducing 125% to 100% - you can get it down to 75% with 10 normal mantlets).

    Your welcome for the guide. :)
    BobFighter834 - International 2.

    "It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
    We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
    We just wanna make the world dance
    Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)

    To contact support, you can:

    1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
    2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
    3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
  • ZorethZoreth Posts: 8
    edited 06.08.2012
    Thanks for the tips Bob, I gave up after a few tries and then I read your tips and followed the advice, now I am advancing and building up.
    Zoreth @ usa 1
  • magicsss17magicsss17 Posts: 549
    edited 06.08.2012
    so are you saying that I can beat this event and not end it? because I don't want all my special soldiers ending back up at my castle until I can find a place to store them.
    magicsss17 @ WWW 1
  • BobFighter834 (INT2)BobFighter834 (INT2) Posts: 2,762
    edited 06.08.2012
    magicsss17 wrote: »
    so are you saying that I can beat this event and not end it? because I don't want all my special soldiers ending back up at my castle until I can find a place to store them.

    I think, based on what other people have said, that you can beat the Necromancer's castle and not get the troops/resources back until you want to, so you can continue attacking towers or villages. So you should be able to win, wait until you can feed the special soldiers, and then send them home. However, they will still consume food at the Thorn King, so either don't wait long or farm villages while you're waiting.
    BobFighter834 - International 2.

    "It's not about the rubies, rubies, rubies
    We don't need your rubies, rubies, rubies
    We just wanna make the world dance
    Forget about the price tag" - by Jessie J (sort of)

    To contact support, you can:

    1. Click here - http://support.goodgamestudios.com/
    2. Click on "help" and "support" in-game (top-right of your screen - blue question mark)
    3. Type "Goodgame Empire Support" into Google.
  • bagofricebagofrice Posts: 110
    edited 08.08.2012
    Here is another tip:
    If you have loot bags. Put them in your 3rd wave when attacking towers. Some towers give more resources than your villages.
    Note: Some towers (ex: double keep) only give money and rubies.
    bagofrice @ WWW 2
  • edited 09.08.2012
    Bobfighter is right, it is up to you to decide when you want to return your troops to the Great Empire. I took the Necromancer's castle using ~255 troops and lots of siege. All in all I was a little disappointed with this challenge. Basically more of the same with a slight twist, but with some nice graphics.
  • General AndrejGeneral Andrej Posts: 8
    edited 12.08.2012
    Morale is crucial.
    I have build over 1000 morale => 180% and my losses are minimal.
    Build many drill grounds or ...
    train many soldiers.

    PS> Architect works in ThornKing country too. I buy one on 50% discount. Whole week he gave me 25% less cost for drill grounds.
    General Andrej @ WWW 2
  • NanstopNanstop Posts: 8
    edited 13.08.2012
    JanTheMan wrote: »
    Bobfighter is right, it is up to you to decide when you want to return your troops to the Great Empire. I took the Necromancer's castle using ~255 troops and lots of siege. All in all I was a little disappointed with this challenge. Basically more of the same with a slight twist, but with some nice graphics.
    You got high moral or something? Because I lost 250 out of 280 using all sort of tools (ladders, ram and mantles) with 2 waves attacking the frontal and weak flank. Since there was very little remain at the keep for the last row of tower before the necromancer's caslte. My moral is only 110%, its that the reason why I lost so many man? I wonder how can you win with merely 255 troops for over 470+ defenders. I need help, thank you.
    Nanstop @ usa 1
  • fooey101fooey101 Posts: 2
    edited 13.08.2012
    Thanks a lot, but how do you get enough food to hold the soldiers, won't the food rapidly decrease?
    fooey101 @ 1

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