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  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323

    Audi RS SQ8 Mansory cars are super expensive and only for rich people. However, I am not bothered as long as I can get to work by coach.


       Uhh Audi RS SQ8 Mansory is nothing to compare with Mercedes G AMG ( starts 200 000 usd) series jeep:)
       I have one MB G AMG , and i will say its a best jeep ever made.
    You as poseidon pointed out, have completely missed the point entirely. However, I'll explain it to you this way, if someone comes along and has a Koenissegg Jesko which costs in the region of $4 million, are you going to complain about that or are you going to say, fair play. 

    This is what this games about and always has been. There are players like me who are f2p, then there are players like you who probably spend a great deal on rubies then, there are the ruby whales, and without these whales, the game would no longer exist. The amount of money they put into the game goes towards research and development ideas. Without the ruby whales, you would have nothing to moan about. You wouldn't have any mead troops, no apiaries, no level 7 keeps or special tools from the forge.

    You just have to hold your hands up and say fair enough. I've been doing that since day 1 (a great deal longer than you as I used to have an old account back in 2011) and to be honest, I don't begrudge ruby whales anything. Yes, they get taht advantage, but hey ho, if they pay for it, then so be it. Personally though, I get the impression that you are not enjoying the game because you are trying to compete with the whales on your server and you cannot keep up and it can get to people who pay with real cash.
    JPS kills, ton waste time to me explayn how this game works, wath cinde off players there are and how they earn money.
    I have much bigger experinece in real buisnees and i now better tahn you how to earn big money in real life, because i do taht as general manager every day. So cool down.
    And pleas your expressions about me keep it in your mine, because yo are totally wrong.
    First i dont dry compete with big whales on my server, i have my own road to play and i like it.
    If, if in one day i want to compete with whales tehn i will invest real money to taht competition.
    And if you dont now how big is income from rubby whales and how big is income from medium rubbie players you cant say tath only rubbie whales keep game running. As in every real businees things are not so black and white and not so easy.
    I never seen income figures but i think without medium rubbie players game will have real problems.
    But at moment is biggest problem exactly medium rubbie players ho stop game. You don have to be a finacila specialist to see tath income from this game coming down, and tahts means bad for players. GG will not but more investments to develop game to marketing, so ecpensis will cut down........If GG puts everything to big players then tath is big mistake,
    as we see big players to stop playng. In my server i have seen big players castles stayn with 0 soldiers.......
    So things are not so easy as you JPS kills thinking.
    You are talking about one single server, that is all.In the old days, you joined a server depending in which country your IP address was located (I think so) so, when I created my first account, it directed me to the French server. I realised my mistake and joined the GB1 server instead. Then, GGE added World1 and when I came back, world1 was the default server for everyone since it was a server that was inclusive, and this was probably why the "language', option was added to underneath the alliance name.

    So, I am guessing is that there were players who didn't feel comfortable in playing on a multi-lingual server and decided that they wanted to play on the serrver of "their", choice.Secondly, you say that you are a businessman and you deal with numbers, but your argument is based on a very limited pool of data that doesn't show anything other than the number of players going down.Create a spreadsheet and then use it to validate your data and present it in an argument that is coherent, because what I have read is just drivel, et franchement, incomprehensible.
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    edited 02.05.2022
    You are talking about one single server, that is all.In the old days, you joined a server depending in which country your IP address was located (I think so) so, when I created my first account, it directed me to the French server. I realised my mistake and joined the GB1 server instead. Then, GGE added World1 and when I came back, world1 was the default server for everyone since it was a server that was inclusive, and this was probably why the "language', option was added to underneath the alliance name.

    So, I am guessing is that there were players who didn't feel comfortable in playing on a multi-lingual server and decided that they wanted to play on the serrver of "their", choice.Secondly, you say that you are a businessman and you deal with numbers, but your argument is based on a very limited pool of data that doesn't show anything other than the number of players going down.Create a spreadsheet and then use it to validate your data and present it in an argument that is coherent, because what I have read is just drivel, et franchement, incomprehensible.
    JPS Kills /I have read is just drivel, et franchement, incomprehensible.-this sentence simply indicates your low level of intelligence. you just like to insult others.
    In W1 server can be only some players ho left server because of  multilingual server. In W1 ther is no problem with languages. Ther is multilingual alliances, german, arabic, russian ,finish... speaking alliances. and ther is to possibilitys to communicate english or use goole translate, so no problem at all.
    And i dont start to make eny spreadsheet and present it, i am not working in GG, thats not my problem.
    I play game and have a fun, if i boored a game i just leave it.Very esay and simple so try understand tath if you can.
    You have totally misunderstood what I was trying to say and @poseidon has picked you up on this. You are just going off a tangent yet again. Here is what I typed:


    world1 was the default server for everyone since it was a server that was inclusive, and this was probably why the "language', option was added to underneath the alliance name./quote> Did I say anywhere in that sentence that there was a language problem? No, so please read, digest, understand then reformulate your reply that is related because you are not making any sense to anyone.
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    Please click the image below to see how to use the quote function since it clears a great deal up, otherwise there will always be misunderstandings.

    https://prnt.sc/iULrEm0uO_HP
  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 281
    dont go down that road of  20/80 again
    that is based on other factors put into the equation we have been there before and proved you wrong on that 
    the fact still remains if your gong to stop 80% of players from spending then in the long term the 20% will not need to spend so much
    business who  only use that 20/80 without adding the other factors was one reason in the past a lot went bankrupt 
    also  these people are employed by gge 40hrs a week 52 weeks a year so they should be able to do something
    the simple thing with updates is that if you spend nothing spend a little or spend alot it is there to keep you playing 
    and give those who never spend a lot a reason to spend more which is actually what they said 
    jps ive seen plenty of players spend alot of money on here and i know plenty that had a high budget they played with each month most of them dont spend so much now but what have they gained not alot its still only a game 
     buying a fancy car is great as you have something in your hand or garage
    spending money on here does not give you anything
    which goes back to those that spend there pocket money on here they still need something new to spend there money on if gge wants them to carry on spending i for one have stopped spending my pocket money on here as there is nothing to spend it o that will help me




  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259
    dont go down that road of  20/80 again
    that is based on other factors put into the equation we have been there before and proved you wrong on that 
    the fact still remains if your gong to stop 80% of players from spending then in the long term the 20% will not need to spend so much
    business who  only use that 20/80 without adding the other factors was one reason in the past a lot went bankrupt 
    also  these people are employed by gge 40hrs a week 52 weeks a year so they should be able to do something
    the simple thing with updates is that if you spend nothing spend a little or spend alot it is there to keep you playing 
    and give those who never spend a lot a reason to spend more which is actually what they said 
    jps ive seen plenty of players spend alot of money on here and i know plenty that had a high budget they played with each month most of them dont spend so much now but what have they gained not alot its still only a game 
     buying a fancy car is great as you have something in your hand or garage
    spending money on here does not give you anything
    which goes back to those that spend there pocket money on here they still need something new to spend there money on if gge wants them to carry on spending i for one have stopped spending my pocket money on here as there is nothing to spend it o that will help me




    You didn't prove anyone wrong, you simply said you didn't agree.
    I am not saying businesses should follow 20/80, I am saying it's a proven fact that when you look at a healthy business, 20% makes up for 80%. But you're right, we've been over this before and I will not do it again.
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    dont go down that road of  20/80 again
    that is based on other factors put into the equation we have been there before and proved you wrong on that 
    the fact still remains if your gong to stop 80% of players from spending then in the long term the 20% will not need to spend so much
    business who  only use that 20/80 without adding the other factors was one reason in the past a lot went bankrupt 
    also  these people are employed by gge 40hrs a week 52 weeks a year so they should be able to do something
    the simple thing with updates is that if you spend nothing spend a little or spend alot it is there to keep you playing 
    and give those who never spend a lot a reason to spend more which is actually what they said 
    jps ive seen plenty of players spend alot of money on here and i know plenty that had a high budget they played with each month most of them dont spend so much now but what have they gained not alot its still only a game 
     buying a fancy car is great as you have something in your hand or garage
    spending money on here does not give you anything
    which goes back to those that spend there pocket money on here they still need something new to spend there money on if gge wants them to carry on spending i for one have stopped spending my pocket money on here as there is nothing to spend it o that will help me




    You didn't prove anyone wrong, you simply said you didn't agree.
    I am not saying businesses should follow 20/80, I am saying it's a proven fact that when you look at a healthy business, 20% makes up for 80%. But you're right, we've been over this before and I will not do it again.
    I am not great at economics but, would you say that over 2,000 billionaires have more wealth than 4.6 billion people combined is an example of Paretos principle?
  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 281
    jps its not about how many billionaires there are its all about the balance between them 
    if everybody was a billionaire then nobody would collect your dustbins or nobody would build there boats 
    also with this game its a balance between those that dont spend those that spend a bit and those that spend a lot 
    which is what that 20/80 formula is about but  if one factor breaks down then over time they all do
    so regardless there all important and all need looking after which was my point 

  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 281
    another way of putting it
    as above those companies that use that 20/80 formula and are successful with it  
    are so because they look after the 20 and they look after the 80 
    that is keeping the balance and thus not causing any problems 
  • PoseidonPoseidon Moderator Posts: 2,259
    another way of putting it
    as above those companies that use that 20/80 formula and are successful with it  
    are so because they look after the 20 and they look after the 80 
    that is keeping the balance and thus not causing any problems 
    You're not grasping it, 20/80 is something that happens automatically, it's not something you aim, it's something that ends up happening.
  • chesstra (GB1)chesstra (GB1) GB1 Posts: 18
    edited 03.05.2022

    If you remove the current 80% lower/non spenders, the remaining 20% will become the new 100% and that then will split as 20% higher spenders and 80% lesser spenders. Yes the principle still applies but more importantly the overall spending is reduced and GGS will get less. Add the fact that there won’t be as many (easy) targets on the resulting smaller pool and you may see even less spending from those who would remain not to mention the reduced audience for the ads. Remember that a small % of little is way more than 100% of nothing. :)

  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 281
    it could also end up 30/70  but which ever it is  both sides need looking after thats the thing your not grasping 
     if you only look after one side then that side will eventually fall apart as well as you need both sides to carry on 
    an example is above 
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    Speaking from personal experience, I am one of those players that is being ignored (I am a non-ruby player) yet to be honest, I don't feel compelled to complain about how unjust it is with regards to GGE.

    What I most certainly take issue with is the idea that there are still players out there on all servers that have multiple accounts.Again, I have to cite @Philt123 (GB1) as he is or was a player on GB1 up until a few years ago and he brought up the issue of players constantly botting and trying to flout the rules by using vpns to get their rubies at a cheaper price.

    For example, here is a player that @Tarmo (WORLD1)might have been alluding to i.e. a player without a castle. 

    https://prnt.sc/6h2UH6VoRb11

    His might points are massive, more than mine, he still has the fearless title, yet we are told that after x number of days +1 day, the account goes to ruins, then vanishes into thin air. There are players who are level 70 yet still have the title count palantine or lower. How can this be explained? Is it possible that the same player has signed up again, but with the same IP address or e-mail address? All you need is access to the access server and find out if there are any players using a duplicate e-mail address.
  • JPS Kills (GB1)JPS Kills (GB1) GB1 Posts: 323
    jps its not about how many billionaires there are its all about the balance between them 
    if everybody was a billionaire then nobody would collect your dustbins or nobody would build there boats 
    also with this game its a balance between those that dont spend those that spend a bit and those that spend a lot 
    which is what that 20/80 formula is about but  if one factor breaks down then over time they all do
    so regardless there all important and all need looking after which was my point 

    As mentioned earlier, I am not an economost and don't profess to have knowledge in this area.
  • bazzara (GB1)bazzara (GB1) GB1 Posts: 281
    thats fine jps 
    i was not pointing  anything at you i actually respect your comments as you try to put a different line to it
     but when people use  excuse like 20/80 rule using that when they  dont understand it in full or use it in a way its not ment to be it does  not go down well with me sorry and i think you got cought up in it so sorry again 
    and tarmo you are absolutely correct with any formula  all factors need to be balanced  not just the top 20 if not that formula does not work anymore
    as i said before its best if we drop this line with the 20/80 we have all said about the same so time out on it i think 

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