May 2021 Update Feedback

yashruler9

BM_Daisho said:

Hi all, 

Please put any questions or feedback you have about the update below, we will try our best to answer any questions on the update and will forward the feedback you guys have.

The new change to master blacksmith are stupid ,pretty much every player in my alliance,i.e. the NO.1 Alliance on AU1 ALCHEMISTS 

iclucding me , dont like the stupid changes ,,, hate em dont need em ,,just change'em back as they were 

a lot of people are already talking about leaving your already dying game you better take care of your remaining players or its only downhill from here ,

this is just more broken now the top players i.e(top spending players ) will stay at top and you are taking away the chance that small players have, to maybe try to compete with them ,, 

 sincerely disappointed 

commando (US1)

i wonder why GGE says they have to fix the balance of too many khan chests....but somehow this is ok   if only i was smart enough to figure it out.   
http://prntscr.com/14fd42d

Pisky (GB1)

Probably because its only a short time. I'm more curious on just how many of those they sell at that price, which will show the real play to win players

SkylixZ (WORLD1)

I dont like blacksmith update...

it feels like GGE wants more money from rubbies, because the price of things in blacksmith is totally overkilled...

example: Khan´s chest... 170 coins is tooo much... 

Johhar Kessen (US1)

Where is the latest info on the Crows/Foreigns and the Nomad events?
The changes are leaving out all of the beginning players and new recruits are leaving in groves.
The monthly challenges are gone for lower level.
As of today, has the Crows/Foreigns level been bumped also?    I haven't any events now.

It is a game.    I need something to do.

Please help.

Lady Iris (US1)

commando (US1) said:

i wonder why GGE says they have to fix the balance of too many khan chests....but somehow this is ok   if only i was smart enough to figure it out.   
http://prntscr.com/14fd42d

That explains a lot...like how you can lose a lead so close to the daily count.
The NBs are definitely being shut out of all competition.

A Sojourn (US1)

When can we expect a Samarai event. It has been MONTHS!!!!!!!!

poiuyt (WORLD1)

A Sojourn (US1) said:

When can we expect a Samarai event. It has been MONTHS!!!!!!!!

and you will wait a month 

commando (US1)

A Sojourn (US1) said:

When can we expect a Samarai event. 

what is this "samarai" event you speak of?

Herc7407 (US1)

The increase in silver coin  to buy chests,, make the Nomad event no longer fiscally sound to bother with. 
The numbers are fairly simple...
390 chests per hit (3 waves x 130)
chest cost 100 x 170 silver coin = 1.7 coin per chest..
each wave therefore costs 663 silver coin for a total of 1989 silver coin per hit to gain a possible 1000 nomad tablets
at this pace players are losing silver coin at an alarming rate
Now of course this makes absolutely no difference to those players who buy a couple hundred dollars in ruby chests for each nomad event.. which is obviously what GGE is attempting to force.. One again blue collar players take it up the back end in order for GGE to push more and more ruby purchases.
Equality for players ability to buy in the blacksmith my arse!

dandelion1958 (GB1)

A Sojourn (US1) said:

When can we expect a Samarai event. It has been MONTHS!!!!!!!!

check the samurai thread - crom says july - but not what year !

Poseidon

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

A Sojourn (US1) said:

When can we expect a Samarai event. It has been MONTHS!!!!!!!!

check the samurai thread - crom says july - but not what year !

2045.

Wasso (INT3)

Poseidon X Angel said:

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

A Sojourn (US1) said:

When can we expect a Samarai event. It has been MONTHS!!!!!!!!

check the samurai thread - crom says july - but not what year !

2045.

Just as possible of a date as 2021...........

Sleeper (INT1)

Would love to know the playing figures from the different countries. How many before, to what is playing now, following these changes?

Storm changes for my alliance mean the PART time players have no longer entered, as they didn't get the reward last time. Some are not prepared to write to GGE! It now means there's just 2 of us out of 37 accounts!!!

Players saw it was a good way to get Sceats to help progression, It takes loads before you can do building upgrades. Promotion in these events, to get them, means you have to win groups, or get near.
Even when you get enough Sceats, you then have to wait 12 days and then have enough Construction/Upgrades, and we know how long it takes to get them.

How many years do GGE expect you to play to upgrade all your castles?

The same has happened in Nomads, even being a ruby player, what did I do Sunday? The answer, not a lot. Got to the top of my group Saturday and couldn't be bothered and lost Sunday.
Is this the apathy those running these types of game are looking for?

Also, how they run their games, as a knock on effect on those other games and the trust in the company as a whole

Christopherules (US1)

OK GGE, Why the GREED? Are y'all trying to run us off?

For example: Blackmith - It's still 5 silver to buy one gold, but now it is one gold to buy 2 silver instead of five! You sent out the BS message that you were making blacksmith better and fair when Y'all really just skewed the game more to the ruby players.

There appears to be much more wrong here, but I just want to point out that your greed is driving off players and the grumbling is getting worse.

Solution: Restore the rewards and prices to their former equality and fire the accountants. Save the money for the real heroes!

dandelion1958 (GB1)

Sleeper (INT1) said:

Would love to know the playing figures from the different countries. How many before, to what is playing now, following these changes?

Storm changes for my alliance mean the PART time players have no longer entered, as they didn't get the reward last time. Some are not prepared to write to GGE! It now means there's just 2 of us out of 37 accounts!!!

Players saw it was a good way to get Sceats to help progression, It takes loads before you can do building upgrades. Promotion in these events, to get them, means you have to win groups, or get near.
Even when you get enough Sceats, you then have to wait 12 days and then have enough Construction/Upgrades, and we know how long it takes to get them.

How many years do GGE expect you to play to upgrade all your castles?

The same has happened in Nomads, even being a ruby player, what did I do Sunday? The answer, not a lot. Got to the top of my group Saturday and couldn't be bothered and lost Sunday.
Is this the apathy those running these types of game are looking for?

Also, how they run their games, as a knock on effect on those other games and the trust in the company as a whole

Around 1k actively looting players on uk1 - and think was 140 ish alliances in nomads rankings - wasn't paying much attention when i checked - like yourself i coasted on friday / sat and sun - saw my ranking with 130k points so pushed and nearly got top 50 with 232k points - I can do 100k a day just lost incentive !

Wasso (INT3)

dandelion1958 (GB1) said:

Sleeper (INT1) said:

Would love to know the playing figures from the different countries. How many before, to what is playing now, following these changes?

Storm changes for my alliance mean the PART time players have no longer entered, as they didn't get the reward last time. Some are not prepared to write to GGE! It now means there's just 2 of us out of 37 accounts!!!

Players saw it was a good way to get Sceats to help progression, It takes loads before you can do building upgrades. Promotion in these events, to get them, means you have to win groups, or get near.
Even when you get enough Sceats, you then have to wait 12 days and then have enough Construction/Upgrades, and we know how long it takes to get them.

How many years do GGE expect you to play to upgrade all your castles?

The same has happened in Nomads, even being a ruby player, what did I do Sunday? The answer, not a lot. Got to the top of my group Saturday and couldn't be bothered and lost Sunday.
Is this the apathy those running these types of game are looking for?

Also, how they run their games, as a knock on effect on those other games and the trust in the company as a whole

Around 1k actively looting players on uk1 - and think was 140 ish alliances in nomads rankings - wasn't paying much attention when i checked - like yourself i coasted on friday / sat and sun - saw my ranking with 130k points so pushed and nearly got top 50 with 232k points - I can do 100k a day just lost incentive !

My desire to put up with the boring repetitiveness is at an all time low............... 

TreeFiddy2 (US1)

Thanks to the moderators for enduring.  You likely find it difficult to defend these changes so I sympathize.

I have not posted here before.  I felt compelled by the multitude of negative changes which have been implemented in the last few months.  Everyone in my alliance (a top 5 alliance in US1 server) has been playing longer than me.  Most of us spend money every month but we do have dedicated free to play players.  The discussions in the chats and messages between the players in the game are unanimous in their dislike of the new changes in the master blacksmith AND the massive recent changes regarding the game mechanics.

The newer look items and mead attackers made every castle indefensible and therefore sucked most of the joy out of the game.  Even with alliance support a commander with 200+/200+/200+ stats and mead attackers can walk right through the best defenses gold horseshoe coins can buy and kill coin defenders at between a 4:1 to a 6:1 ratio.  PVP went from being a closely contended aspect of the game which made it fun and very much about chance and small differences in preparation to a completely foregone conclusion.  The attacker will win in PVP.  The attacker will often win in player versus alliance support as well.  There is no balance to the attack versus defense calculations and therefore the excitement of "chance" is lost.  The joy is lost as well.  Gambling is exciting because there is a chance to win and a chance to lose.  Both must be present for the gambler to remain engaged at the table spending money.  Both must be present for a GGE player to want to spend time and money bettering his castle, his defenses, and his alliance. 

I only spend $300-400 a month on the game.  I only spend 100 to 170 hours a month playing the game.  I am not the most dedicated player in my alliance but I try to do my part.  We all stopped being as motivated when we found out we could no longer effectively defend the castles we worked so hard and spent so much to build and upgrade.  Members spent hours and hours on events to gain blacksmith coins just so they could use them to do well on the next event.  Or they would collect them to improve their castles with special districts, castellans, commanders, or PO items.  Would people hoard blacksmith coins?  Of course they would!  If your alliance was in a protracted war there would be no time or resources for events and you would be spending every blacksmith coin, nomad tablet, and other currency you had on soldiers and equipment.  And yes, you would buy rubies and make desperate upgrades at the Super Sale as well. 

People are retiring from the game.  People are selling their legendary level 800 accounts and walking away from the game.  Customers are leaving this game they enjoyed so much for so many years.  It is disheartening and is sad to see.  The game has lost its thrill.  The developers have changed the equations to reduce the joy, the cunning, and the skill. 

What can be done now? 

1.  Stop making huge leaps in technology that render all previous efforts obsolete.  When mead troops arrived, if they had only been 3% better than the other troops available they still would have been bought by the ruby whales.  They didn't need to be a huge leap forward to attract the money the GGE ownership desires while preserving the competitiveness that keeps the masses of people active in the game.  If the only players who are competitive in the game are spenders then the maps and events will be empty and the spenders will quickly tire of the smaller number of other spenders that remain.  Some of the interest in the game comes from the huge number of other players  that are here and the new ones that grow into level 70 competitors every year.  If my friends become inactive I will likely become inactive also.

2.  Stop offering huge upgrades from look items or any other pieces.  Small incremental advances will still cause people to spend but will not cause others to become disgusted and leave the game.  Be smart.  A 2% upgrade in courtyard or melee strength or a 3% flank or front troop increase would still attract the spenders.  They don't need to be 25-30% to cause the guy with 25 Rolex watches to want to buy them (yes, that guy exists in the game). 

3,  Make it worth the money and time.  I didn't start spending money until I got to level 50 or 60.  The game had to show enough value to me and keep me entertained for enough hours to deserve my money.  I had to feel spending would enhance my experience, not just make me invincible.  It needed to give me value that would last. It needed to give me items that would have residual value.  Now the entirety of my money and  hours of efforts could be on fire in 20 minutes, even with a top alliance offering me reasonable support.  The imbalance doesn't make me want to spend on building or improving more.  And now my blacksmith coins don't go as far...

4.  Repair the broken parts of the game that have been neglected for years.  I didn't spend money until I had been playing for MANY MONTHS because the game was broken.  I would have spent sooner and would possibly spend more now if the game had complete and accurate explanations of how items or buildings worked and why I should have them.  I would be more involved if some of the events weren't broken.  Shapeshifters has outdated rewards that are of no use to any player since 2015, yet they appear every two weeks.  Why?  Fix them.  The daily duty in Outer Realms event isn't a daily duty, is it?  It only needs to be done once per event and is only valid for one set of rewards but that's not what the description says.  Nomads are here again, again.  Samurais have only been here 3 times in 12 calendar months that I'm aware of.  That's certainly something that can be repaired.  Why can't I remove the military hospital from my main castle?  If I'm buying repalcement troops with rubies when they are killed (something GGE should like) why do I need a hospital if I don't want one?  There are many larger concerns but I am weary and not thinking clearly.

--If you want to make more money and attract more players to stay, roll back the crazy imbalances and fix the broken bones of the game.  If you make it enjoyable to play the game will grow.  People will tell their friends to come join them and a certain percentage of them will always spend money.  But if the people who are already here think the game is broken they will not recommend it to friends.  Make it fun.  Fix it and they will come.

One last thing,  The survey questions sent out are ambiguous and seem to be written by someone who doesn't know anything about the game, or how to ask a clear question.  They reinforce the idea that the GGE ownership is out of touch with their most active players and paying customers.   If you want to know what people think, ask them.  Spend a minute writing good questions if you want useful answers.  The first rule of business is "know thy customer" and GGE's ownership has no idea what we want or why we want it.  They don't act like they've ever played their own game for more than an hour.  Talk to the members of the top 10 alliances and give them the opportunity to give open-ended answers. You may learn how to make money with this game by increasing the user base.  Market research is about learning what your customer wants and giving it to them.  You want everyone playing this game and the people who are already here are struggling with whether they want to stay.

Sorry this was so rambling.  It's very late. 

Tree

ALEJANDRIA (HIS1)

pueden dejar islas asi como esta si quieren pero arreglen al herrero como antes porfavor ,ya no se puede jugar con palos y clavos 

commando (US1)

how about GGE adds a delete account button with the next update.   i am sure that will be popular.