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Discussion thread: September update
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delay the damn thing until after the Lotus event, start Beri and Bloodcrows now and give everyone a cupcake booster so they can make up what they lost due to your imcompetence at fixing these bugs!
get it together, GGE, ffs!
I had to do 50 bloodcrows for the second part of the Queens defence and exceeded that in the last event - but i had troops for 4 attacks at a time - am not recruiting til we get a definative start time - just friendly advice
@Batten (GB1) love that you won a nobility contest - was in top 50 at the start but had to go out into real world for a bit so dropped ! - still over 5m loot this week so far ! and working on my HoL as well i want that 6th wave
PS it pays to top up food in all castles twice a day i have enough food for at least a day - you never know what an update can break
PS angus just posted Update delayed - suprise suprise
Am still playing 8 years on ! - hi lvl 800 on new yrs eve (2017/18) !
Leading the Targaryens - PS interested in joining - PM any officer in Game :-)
taking a more relaxed role:-)
PS in top200 on uk 1 never botted or used a VPN - that's why it took 5 yrs to get to leg 800
I don't actually work for GGS, I'm a player like you
Angus
I think almost everyone wants the old events instead of waiting more then 3 fkn h for the next update to be finished? get it together GG, i mean this is actually what you are supposed to do! make updates that actually works or dont do any updates at all
In other words the money guys at GGE have decided that the game is giving away too many rubies, not enough is being sold to support their bloated salaries so please stop giving them away!! While we sit here waiting for an update, wasting time on event play, that you just cant seem to get done!
Firstly, apologies for not posting it at the same time as the DE forum team did, however, I shall explain, as it was a purposeful decision:
- There will always be added details such as a post to say 'The downtime should have started on all servers, or servers X, Y, Z, etc.
- These additional details add comments to the already long thread which they will be added to
- I felt it would be more worthwhile to wait for these comments to be posted (Wait until the downtime) so that it was the most recent thing I have posted once the downtime starts, as really the information is not relevant until after the update has happened, and doing it this way, more people are likely to see it.
Hey @the j (SKN1)If we start the old events, there will be issues if an update happened while they are active, so the event would have to either last like 1 day (which would devalue the top 100, Top 50, etc. prizes), or we would have to delay the update until the end of the week (which would mean there is less time to fix issues before the weekend, meaning they may not be fixed... meaning even more people are unhappy
Angus
If we start the old events, there will be issues if an update happened while they are active, so the event would have to either last like 1 day (which would devalue the top 100, Top 50, etc. prizes), or we would have to delay the update until the end of the week (which would mean there is less time to fix issues before the weekend, meaning they may not be fixed... meaning even more people are unhappy
Well why cant the update wait for another week? its last 7 days of lotus-event and i have wasted my last 2 free days this week waiting for these events! will there be some kind of gifts or bonustimes? and when is the update starting today so we know, then we dont have to sit at the computer and staring at the screen waiting for the update
ifso then why not disclude that part of the update so we can play bloodcrows or berimond
Great.
"Battle Report Improvements"
Cool, I guess.
"War of the Bloodcrows Reward Changes"
Expected these...
"Battle of Berimond Rewards"
Yawn...
"During our Long term point events you will encounter a new quest, ‘Friend of the true King’. Be loyal to your true King Eric and he will handsomely reward you."
Cool, I guess. Would rather see a 200%, but idk. GGE wants more profit from an individual rather than less profit per individual spread over more people, resulting in more profit.
I stopped spending because people had an unfair advantage. You removed that, thanks, but you also punished me and demotivated me from even playing. Great job.
Now... I'll get to this later in the post.
"Additional research levels will be added"
Most endgame players cannot even complete this without completely changing our current builds. You're asking us to build sawmills and stonemasons just so we can upgrade a level or 5 of research. Then we have to destroy it again. This could have been implemented better, but it wasn't.
"Gem removal will cost Rubies again. New gem removal prices will be available after the update takes place."
Eh, we knew this was coming. The new prices do improve things greatly, but it's still not really worth 5 dollars to remove a level 8 gem. I'd just add a gem over it and let that gem disappear. Especially with.... Oh yeah, getting to that later in the post.
"Khan's revenge changes"
Thank you for clarifying what has been changed and what was potentially frustrating for players. This has been a great improvement but doesn't really motivate me to spend money on this game again.
"It is not possible anymore to take advantage of offers that are actually not running anymore. We reworked our offer system to prevent this behavior. From now on you can only combine offers that are really active and not expired."
We'll see. I'll believe it when I see it. I know it's harder now, but last I checked you still could.
"The ruby loot for robber baron castles in all kingdoms (not including fortresses) and Berimond watchtowers has been reduced by 50%. This decision is based on our thorough analysis and decreasing the outcome is a necessary change, since too much premium currency is pouring into the game. In the past, we introduced too many features where players could grind hard currency for free and we lost control over our own economy - similar to the recent wishing well changes, which were necessary for the game economy as well."
LOL. I mean, sure, it was pretty easy for a maxed out player that has spent thousands of dollars on the game and has maxed out castles to earn a measly few k rubies per day, but the people that haven't done that? What about people that don't have time to loot all day long. Wow. I mean, the wishing well didn't result in enough outrage for you?
I genuinely believe that GGE is trying to make as many people quit or stop spending as they can. Are you guys just trying to get to the point where you've waited out our chargeback potential? lmao. What a joke.
I can't believe that you guys genuinely think that "too much" currency is pouring into the game. It seems much more likely that not enough currency is pouring into GGS. If you think this is going to rectify that then you're sorely mistaken. I don't think you do, though. This is an exit strategy. Clearly. It's the most obvious exit strategy I've ever seen. Guess you guys have a lot of hope in Millenium Wars, lol.
"This change of ruby loot will not be an isolated re-balance, and is part of a broader re-balancing plan which we are currently working on and that players will be able to experience soon. With the re-balancing, we want to provide a fairer and more compelling game experience to all our players. It will include (but not exclusively) topics such as the adjustment of prices in all our ruby vendors and provide a more streamlined progression through the game."
Pfft, believe it when I see it. What? You going to change Cast Iron mants from 16 rubies per piece to 15 rubies? lmao.
Unless you're cutting tool costs by a minimum of 50%, this won't affect my purchasing.
It's great too. I've saved thousands of dollars this year. Thank you GGS. Thanks to you I've bought a new computer chair, new couches, engagement ring, wedding rings, a year supply of meat, a couple thousands dollars worth of clothes, new headset for my Xbox 1, Kinect, a dozen games, and took my family on US trips twice. You've reminded me how much better off I am on spending my money on other things. Keep it up!
"As a company, we're behaving similarly to a country"
Yeah, Argentina.
"which also needs to gain control over its own economy and currency flow."
But can't.
"Changing the outcome is not being done in order to demotivate players"
But does, which is why you wrote that.
"it's necessary in order to gain control over the economy again"
lol
"and not damage the game in the long run"
A few years too late.
"Our goal is a healthier in-game economy that creates a fairer game experience for all our players, and this measure brings us a step closer to achieving this"
I don't believe you. I think your goal is to reduce the potential for customers to chargeback when you inevitably say that the game is being closed due to a lack of players. The same lack of players that is being created by your migration from an F2P game to a P2P game.
"We will continue to actively monitor data surrounding this feature change, and we may readjust the feature once the currency flow is under control."
It'll be too late by then. For me, anyway. I've always thought I'd never quit this game, but idk, if this update ever even gets implemented. It's definitely sending me in that direction. I guess we'll see what Octobers update has to offer take away.
"The cooldown duration for the skill reset costs in the Hall of Legends has been increased from 7 to 15 days. Since our last changes (from 30 down to 7 days) in one of our previous updates, we continuously analysed our data, resulting in increasing the time a bit again."
I guess this was inevitable. It was always too quick of a cooldown and resulted in making it much easier for me to switch back and forth. Especially considering how much it cost in rubies if you didn't want to wait. Now, with all of the changes to rubies, it's already something I'm less likely to spend rubies on, and now you increase the time. lol. I wonder how long until you raise the price too.
"The new nomad castellan Armor of the Eastern Raiders and the new samurai commander Armor of Kiruga Yoshiro will finally make their debut in the game! "
You say that now, but you can't even get the update now. Guess that should be taken with a grain of salt.
"Technical stuff/bugfixes"
Yay.
Not sure why you need to wait for major content updates to do minor bugfixes, but whatever.
Now we're eating into the last days of Lotus and losing out on event time because the update is, yet again, delayed.
Honestly, as anyone can tell you. I may be highly critical, but I've always been in GGS' corner. I've always been supportive and arguably, a cheerleader. I'm losing confidence in GGS. I think that it's fair to say that if I'm losing confidence, most of your other players already have lost confidence.
GGE has always been the type of game that I've been embarrassed to show my friends. It's always been something I've been embarrassed to admit I spend money on outside of forums and the GGE community. Now I don't even know how to describe how it makes me feel. I've wasted too much money on this game, too much time. I enjoy the friendships I've made here. I enjoyed the game, at some point, but not now. Now it's a job. An endless grind to even keep troops fed. Having to prepare staggered food trips to be able to even take the family out. It's insanity. Maybe that's how it makes me feel. Downright insane.
Perryl @ UK1 and AU1. Will be back on UK1 soon.
@ me or don't expect a response.
Chasing the goalpost since 2014. I discovered GGE through a Dogecoin faucet rotator. Don't know what that is? No big deal, those are gone in 2018 2020. A long break was good. Highly recommended. I got too drunk and forgot why I hated GGE and took a break in the first place. So, here I am again.
2020 - Not dead yet.
According to those estimates any of the players (including the normal one) would finish the event without the loss of the 2.5 days they lost, in fact, you could do just 2 pages a day and finish the event with 15 days spare.... there are spare days added to the event above a month to cover lost time such as this (5 days extra this time I believe)
This event lasts 35 days, 2 pages a day = completed in 20 days. On top of this, not everyone is meant to complete both sets of rewards (40 pages), and so really there should be plenty of time to get to complete the first set of rewards in 30+ days, that's an average of 2 pages every 3 days, considering some people get all 40 pages completed in one day of nomads/samurais, the key is really in the planning of early stage samurais/nomads.
Angus