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Poll: Gem Stat Caps Update
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Okay I view this a bit differently, but the update upsets me all the same. If you are really angry at GGE, I think this will be a mixed bag for you but here goes:
If the ability to gem up to the higher than 120% 70% and 90% etc. levels was never originally possible, this never would have been an issue. The high-end gamers would have their insane CY bonuses, as well as the harder to get commanders with more of the maximum stats, but not all of the hyped up stats. It's how it used to be anyway and it worked well enough. So I agree with GGE that the imbalance created has been pretty bad. In terms of somehow addressing this and scaling things back to before the madness, I'm on board.
But the agreement ends there.
I am shocked at how they are trying to undo it. And despite what many are saying, I think the real issue here if you were to lay it all out is: unjust compensation for what was invested to get those bonuses.
I've never obtained the stuff above the cap levels except for a few fire/loot castellans & commanders. So I wouldn't expect someone like me to get significant compensation. But for those who did invest to get those items... I can't believe the answer is simply "free removal." Seriously? You're going to lose the biggest chunk of players funding your game.
GGE is shooting themselves in the foot. If you're going to undo what was previously a part of the game, you need to take care of those who invested their time or money on those features. Elementalist set with excess bonuses is now mundane? Well you'd better refund most of the cost of that elementalist commander to the player. Whether it's a cash credit or a ruby dump can be debated. What if the gems did not take a straight ruby buy, but instead required $200 in bonus buys early on due to the initial competition to get such a great bonus? Or those who spent extra just for another gem or two to use on a mixed set for the additional stat bonus? Or the tools involved? And ruby-technicus? Those are other costs you're ignoring. They never would have invested such amounts if the incentive was not so great! Meaning you never would have been on the receiving end of that time and money but for your introduction of those features in the game.
What do you think is going to happen the next time there's a phenomenal set or bonus that the uber-achievers can go for? Half simply won't do it because GGE is known to undo all of the hard work (or purchase) to obtain it.
This wouldn't be a Manatee post without a parallel:
- Would you ever buy a vacuum from that company again? Probably not. Unless you knew that future mistakes will be compensated for if there was need to undo them.
How did they not have someone on their team warning against this? And if they did, who were the geniuses that ignored them?I could get behind a gem update, but not if their compensation to those who had gotten the stuff is non-existent.
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I guess the biggest question is why this change now? Is it because of a few cry babies that don't spend rubies to get better equipment/gems, weather it's in events or specials, but want to be the same strength as those of us that do? Sorry, but that's real life too. So, if this update is implemented then those of us that are losing our time, rubies, coins, and troops to get where we are today going to be compensated for our loses? And I mean properly compensated, not just some free food.
At this point I am undecided on what I will do if this update in implemented. It could be the beginning of the end. If I stop buying rubies then I will leave the game as well. If I purchase a truck with a V-8 and the company comes to me after words and says they are going to make my V-8 and V6 what do you think would happen. I personally would tell the company to shove it. This is starting to look like NASCAR trying to take the competition out of racing. You can't make everyone equal and keep them happy. I have quit watching/following NASCAR for that reason. Someone wins and someone looses. Not everyone is winners, I don't care how hard you try. In the end gge won't be the winners if this is the path that is going to be taken.
Stepping off my soapbox now.
i'm curious as to how GGS plans to compensate myself, and others, for the gems that i/we have purchased from them (through a financial institution, ie my bank). i've purchased a nechra gem set (500k roobs) to go with my super castellan (>1mil roobs) and the elementalist gem set (500k roobs) to go with my super commander (>1mil roobs). I made these gem purchases in good faith, and strictly to be used with these commanders/castellans, as these gems were (and currently still are) advertised, and under the contract we agree to under their terms of service.
i'm sure it's a typo on their part, but GGS seems to have claimed that their intention is to devalue these items, so i'm curious as to how they (GGS) intend to compensate those of us who were duped, and how they intend to avoid a whole lotta charges of Wire Fraud (US code 18, ss 1343).
now, obviously i ain't no lawyer, but if i was GGS, i'd think twice about taking back something that i'd sold internationally AND over the internet.
any ideas how they plan to pull this one off?
Well as for others please share poll with your teammates and let gge know what we think about their crap updates, think they will be shocked with amount of players disagreeing with their "balance"!
What WILL happen to courtyard gems?
Is that counter working correctly?
I put some very nice gems on the wrong equipment 'cause of bad planning but with GGE's current stupidly expensive costs to take them off, there's no fixing that.
Otherwise, I put all my rants on the other thread. Essentially GGE wants to throw the baby out with the bathwater - an incredibly poor idea, one that promises to eliminate (the evils of) player creativity and an interesting eq system for a cookie cutter system where everyone is following the same pattern in lockstep. But that really is the game they made, with their silly story line and few limiting variables regarding castle growth. So it's not really surprising that their solution to 1 set of gems is to panic and try to force a simpler one rather than nerf those overpowered gems and EQ.
And ultimately this is a p2w problem - the OP gems are from a ruby cast set. So I have really just one comment to the devs: duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh! p2w screwed you as much as it screws us, nice going.
4 wave attacks are not challenging enough to defend. everyone will just support and won't matter if they win or lose wall. and the firecasts . . i like mine for when i am away. only time i don't defend is if i can't get on usually. or super short horn because people would rather send cheap shots than real attacks.
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I think its pretty unanimous the update is dumb and just shouldnt happen
on another note fix your numbers it has to total 100% not 99%
Over the last six months I have seen several updates that gge has made in the what they call an effort to maintain fairness in the game. I think they are trying to balance the gap between the ruby whales and the non-ruby buyers. (get rid or rubies if you want that) The only reason why we buy rubies is to have an advantage over the non-ruby buyers. If you take away that advantage then you might as well get rid of rubies.
This update to balance the gap between people who have gems and don't have gems is crazy. We who spend hours of our day and $ from our pocket to buy or earn these gems to create an advantage over the next. That is what makes the game fun and gives us a reason to play harder to either earn or buy rubies to get gems to create these awesome commanders / Castilians. I really don't think it can be thought of as fair to limit or take away the hard work we have all worked for just because the programs didn't have the fore site to see what could be created with the programming that they provided.
I think this whole Idea of Fairness is flawed. The sooner people realize that the game/ life is not fair the better off they will be. If you work hard and invest a little coin you to can be a beast. If you log in every few days or just play for an hour or two a week your going to be left behind. That is fair. The dynamic of putting different items or gems together to make the strongest, fastest, sneaky, and most devious is what makes this game fun. Good Job GGE. Just make the game boring marginalize your customers in an effort to make your non-buyers or inactive feel all warm and fuzzy. Keep it up and you will have the same fan base as sega.....
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i don't agree with down.
all player stronger day by day and they should have more and more power