Best Outpost and Main castle layout

Lord Roj (GB1)

shedlite wrote: »

I have no clue what a fire cast is or how you get one. Actually i quit farmville it got boring and required to much time to achieve anything. I get that you think that set up is stupid(39 hideouts) but the question is would you attack it? keep in mind you would gain no resources. an attack with only armed civilians for defense will net you less than 100 glory (that's with banners) what would be the point? other than doing shady character quest (where you would only need about 100 attack troops to win) there is no reason to attack which was my point to begin with. limit what a person gains in an attack and they will not attack....there is no profit in it. even if you do attack, you burn a few buildings (maybe on a rare occasion turn one into rubble) they could counter with as much as 2000 attack troops (even if you hit all ops in great kingdom at same time)
and my understanding even with fire cast, you still get resources and glory, it just prevents damage to buildings...my idea is better. no resources low glory = no attack which means no buildings on fire, it achieves same results but lose nothing (except PO)

but what is the point of even having an OP if you don't intend to keep any men in it?

There is one not far from me, full of houses, no troops, but he has 600-800 armed militia that never die! gives some glory though.

shedlite2

loaded with troops, just not defensive troops, key is max stronghold so will have as much as 500 attack troops protected from being attacked and killed that can be used to counter attack anyone who does attack. 600 to 800 militia will probably get a decent amount of glory, which would defeat purpose of trying to prevent being attacked

destroyer41103 (US1)

however you place your buildings does not affect anythng only makes your castle look cooler or not cooler.

ang1243 (GB1)

destroyer41103 wrote: »

however you place your buildings does not affect anythng only makes your castle look cooler or not cooler.

ahahaha, such little insight, wrong

ang1243 (GB1)

BSK's Castle layouts:

Main castle | Outposts | Kingdoms

ang1243 (GB1)

Well, BSK-AlliedForce when it was around

icebob99 (US1)

Lord Roj wrote: »

but what is the point of even having an OP if you don't intend to keep any men in it?

There is one not far from me, full of houses, no troops, but he has 600-800 armed militia that never die! gives some glory though.

Lol you could always have a coin op. Because we all know that those are very, very helpful.

Do not make a coin op.

therealsporer (US1)

ang1243 wrote: »

BSK's Castle layouts:

Main castle | Outposts | Kingdoms

Why have so many resource production buildings and dwellings? Why have sawmill and quarry?
Burn em, build more deco.

why more dwellings in an 8food op where PO magnifies each farm than you have in main where there are fewer 100% farms?

Dear god, why so many guardhouses? are you that afraid to lose a battle?

otherwise, nice layouts

heehee3

If you're on EN1 and want really good castle and outpost layouts

search 'Vitifer'

ang1243 (GB1)

therealsporer wrote: »

Why have so many resource production buildings and dwellings? Why have sawmill and quarry?
Burn em, build more deco.

why more dwellings in an 8food op where PO magnifies each farm than you have in main where there are fewer 100% farms?

Dear god, why so many guardhouses? are you that afraid to lose a battle?

otherwise, nice layouts

Dwellings, no idea why they are there, res production, you do need some now with the legend update.

Guardhouses:

Having done lots of maths on spy failures, PO and food production, the optimum number of guardhouses in all sites in all kingdoms appears to be 11. I know a lot of you don't run that many, and are probably groaning about the idea of doing so, but there are good reasons... Firstly, there's the obvious deterrent of not being able to be spied, but this is a relatively small issue (other than castellans) as most top players are happy enough hitting blind.

However, where it makes a really big difference is in war time, where it has two crucial impacts. 1) mass attacks are nearly always given away by mass spy failures - in every war I've been in, a mass was preceded by failed spy reps, and this is invaluable. 2) It's psychologically very intimidating in war to be faced with a big wall of "no idea what I'm facing", and psychology is over half of war on this game. Even if the big players on an alliance are happy launching blind, over half of them will fluster, and launch attacks on guesses that makes it much easier to construct a succesful defense for.

So everyone is expected to implement 11 guardhouses in each of their castles - the number was chosen as the point at which 26 spies (max possible) will fail more than 50% of the time running at 100% accuracy.

For those worried about the PO impact on food production, going from 0 to 11 guardhouses in a shiny food outpost reduces your troops by about 4% - if you can support 2000 troops, you lose about 75 from the switch, and the added securiy benefits are huge.

therealsporer (US1)

ang1243 wrote: »

Dwellings, no idea why they are there, res production, you do need some now with the legend update.

Guardhouses:

Having done lots of maths on spy failures, PO and food production, the optimum number of guardhouses in all sites in all kingdoms appears to be 11. I know a lot of you don't run that many, and are probably groaning about the idea of doing so, but there are good reasons... Firstly, there's the obvious deterrent of not being able to be spied, but this is a relatively small issue (other than castellans) as most top players are happy enough hitting blind.

However, where it makes a really big difference is in war time, where it has two crucial impacts. 1) mass attacks are nearly always given away by mass spy failures - in every war I've been in, a mass was preceded by failed spy reps, and this is invaluable. 2) It's psychologically very intimidating in war to be faced with a big wall of "no idea what I'm facing", and psychology is over half of war on this game. Even if the big players on an alliance are happy launching blind, over half of them will fluster, and launch attacks on guesses that makes it much easier to construct a succesful defense for.

So everyone is expected to implement 11 guardhouses in each of their castles - the number was chosen as the point at which 26 spies (max possible) will fail more than 50% of the time running at 100% accuracy.

For those worried about the PO impact on food production, going from 0 to 11 guardhouses in a shiny food outpost reduces your troops by about 4% - if you can support 2000 troops, you lose about 75 from the switch, and the added securiy benefits are huge.

hm... in USA1 it seems like most masses are given away by incestuous double agent info leaks, and we all have learned not to send spies in a coordinated hit.
Also, dummy soldiers detect spies pretty good.

res production you don't need in any castle that you loot from...
I can see doing a little in outworlds where you plunk down 1 building for hundreds of rv based production, but why take that hit in main?

Relis (ASIA1)

I'm think this is good  

Juvraj (GB1)

This is my main:


This is my op's:

(with the dwelling going to be replaced with a watchtower)

And Kingdom:



But I will probably change them after seeing BSK's advised setup and the explanation for it

Gamer700SI (AU1)

make sure you put buildings in line

Gamer700SI (AU1)

ur gonna need every space you can get for po

Gamer700SI (AU1)

In case you didnt know, po is public order

Juvraj (GB1)

Just changed the layout of my main:

It is very similar to the BSK recommended one, but a few changes made