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Unless I missed something, profits don't change. Amount of time needed does not go down.
WHY bother upgrading it at all? For the graphic?
I must have missed something somewhere. Still exploring all the stuff. (I miss my ice cream.)
n efforts like it means nothing at all so idk i think im going to quit if they dont fix it to wherei had all the same as before
i understand this game is a business to make money but what u fail to remember is that clients should be treated with respect and consideration n this really isnt considering all the time they put into the game to reach upgrades before ...instead u showed a lack of respect n consideration for our previous efforts ...hope a staff member replies n address my concerns as well as return my gormet farm to me along with the moneyi loss on the production n so on....I was happy to see bigfamr seemed different than the other companies that lacked respect hoping they prove me wrong if not then im out of this game
i have seen the exp for gourmet farm quests are been increased
i think you they are balancing it but what about players who was having the advantage and ranked up ?
since i use to have the gourmet farm n made a small profit off it after completing a series of earning the right for gourmet why is it that i lost my production with no compensation , why did i lose my produce with no compensation and why after having earn alot of things - why now is it that i no longer have the option to upgrade my cow farm have the right to start my bakery why now doi have to be a level 31 where as i earned the right to the gourmet famr before hand . tell me why my rights or rather my earned items are no longer considered what i earned why is all my hard work just shoved down the toilet with no appreciation for my time or effort and tell me why i should keep playing agame that has no respect for me as a customer because if they had they would never have done this or taken away what i already earned...
I should say also that i would like an answer on several things like the fact i was at a level where i could upgrade my cow barn and a few other things now cant , had a bakery now dont , had a production that would have given me money this morning n now dont ...so what im saying is will they give me the money off my prodcution of cherry juice will they allow me to have the bakery at level 28 since i owned it previously ....if they return all those option then I will stay ....if not then i will quit and stop wasting my time to agame that dont hold up the honor between a customer n its game
so what im asking is are you gonna return all that i have already earned or do i just quit this game ? if i do not get the things i already earned a right to do back then I would that honest answer so i can make my choice to quit then based on a games lack of respect for me and my hard earn time and effort put in to to achieve those options previously
i would also just like to state this to give you an idea of how typical this is in the gaming industry where they want a customer money and loyalty to their game but never have respect for clients and what they want .....I played 18 games besides big farm one game game name removed - Kat Nip I spent a good 10 000 dollars a yr in or more and because they chose to do upgrades that caused problems like this or taken things away from me after the upgrade i got fed up with that lack of consideration n respect for me as a customer soi left those games .....like it or not this gaming industry does nto respect customers if they did they leave what ppl earned already alone and they cant tell me that they cant achieve this they can ..it may take alot work but thats what business is suppose to be about making money through supplying the customer needs and so far you have not met mine ..once again i joined agame that seems to show no respect for what i earned od what i pay for simply because they want more dollars quickly rather then find a solution that pleases both the game owners and the clients ...tell me why cant they leave us have what we already earned alone and why cant they jus give use new options that will allow them to make their money , rather than taking away our past earned stuff why not give us a button to choose if we want the old farm or to upgrade it to the new whenever we wish to choose to do so ..i think if ppl have the right to still keep the old gourmet farm make money off it until they were at the new level n have all their previously owned items houses happiness etc transferred over then i would say your being fair and considerate ...n for those who had the famr before should still have it now not be told they need to be level 31 now
1) The composter/silo are additional to the regular ones, and both have different times/outcomes - so depending if you want to wait longer for more result or keep a tight schedule, you can feel free to use the one you want
2) The gold you spent for the researchers should be back at your cooperative bank, if I remember correctly. If it isn't, I'll check tomorrow when I'm back at the office
I'll check this tomorrow I know though that some quests' reward has been transferred to quests from the Gourmet farm, since a lot of the main farm quests can now be shared, GF quests are new and more, and the balance of the game had to stay as a whole, so I think that's what might have happened here.
Nope Actual forum update of the software we're using, which allows many new features in the forums in the future. We're actually pretty excited for it
The bakery should make a lot of profit in the end, after being upgraded and after some researches are appled - more on that tomorrow, as Steffi already said.
Hmm, I'm not sure if I miss something here. All $ you spent for building and upgrading your buildings has been recredited to your account. All work you put into the farm was credited to your XP and budget when used, and we didn't touch any of both. All research you did is still done, only moved to the new researches, and the gold you stored in researchers during the update has also been recredited.
We did remove a lot of buildings (which, as I said, had their complete value including upgrades credited back to your account) and we added a 50% construction bonus for a week to make up for the actual time you spent to build your old Gourmet Farm. And all XP you got (and levels you made) from previous tasks that are no longer in the game are also still on your account.
I'm home right now, guys - just wanted to check in Tomorrow me and Steffi will be back and hopefully able to answer a lot more questions. We are aware this update raises a lot of them, but we really tried to make the switch to the new farm as convenient as possible for all veterans.
So, until then, have a great day (or night) and I'll see you guys tomorrow
1)Can we have some details tomorrow as to what is being added to the forum update? Thank you
2)Don't forget to lock your door :D
So, just to be clear (for when you and Naf read this tomorrow), what would be the motivation for someone who is not in a high-leveled co-op to produce goods at the bakery for a loss?
Loving the update making the farm feel like the main one again now
It is against any type of business sense to make any product where the finished product is worth less than the raw ingredients.
Every update has been for the worse, and the outrage in the forums has been so great lately that the only change is bound to be against us.
It's a fact that during the day, Latten hinted GG would adjust the prices and profits of the bakery.
At the end of the day, he just promised/threatened a graph explaining to us why we are just not doing it right - and people will be grateful.
Just as with the Unhappiness Achieved, except this time it looked like GG would see sense, because there really was no incentive left to spend hours of clicks on less than nothing.
tl;dr:
screensave any comments from CMs et al which you might want as proof. If you even care anymore.
I said with the happiness mess I didn't think GGS could do the maths and I'm sticking with that.
Just checked WWW server only 5 coops with enough members, what about other servers?
Aside from the bakery issue (tbd) I like the concept as well. Much more flexibility, especially when doing time-sensitive projects and events. I miss the complexity of the old gf though, the second-tier processing like milk into cream and especially, marzipan which made for more of a challenge to keep all systems going and producing top profit with best use of time.
In the long run, this will serve ggs well. It slowed down growth, so it'll take longer to level-up (at least I think when looking at XP and land prices) and buy them more time to tackle the big conundrum: how to keep level 100+ from getting bored.
They did the maths; they just calculate on most players NOT checking it.
you need 1440 milk which seels at 33 dollars (47,520 dollars worth)
you need 540 peaches which sells at 100 dollars (54,000 dollars worth)
you need 630 cherries which sells 180 dollars (113,400 dollars worth)
all material together 214,920 dollars if sold so difference is 33,080 dollars
not decreased by costs of starting production of cackes, milk, cow food, wheat, fertilizer, peaches and cherries. So i will assume that even lvl 5 bakery is not profitable, not to think about amortization of investment. Someone really didnt do the math or it skipped economy classes alltogether.
And heres another thing, you deducted our building time on half, sounds nice, but did you take into consideration that we waited that our building were build once allready and you deleted them? You should set building time on 10s for every building on so called gourmet farm for a week.
What happened with our gold invested on gourmet farm? Thankfully i didnt spent much but now and then i speedup built time for buildings, that was not returned to our accounts or was it?
what is the deal with the astrinomical amount of goods needed to make such small amount of output. in real life if a bakery had this much loss they would b out of business within a month!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! also y can we not transfer out items from the bakery??????????
I understand the reformating the sizes of the buildings on the gourmet farm but it didn't need to b completely reworked. the restaurant should have stayed just a bit smaller along with the original bakery and dairy, but the garden and the almond orchard were a really smart rework. there is now no current way for those at the lower levels to make any money what so ever on the gourmet farm. in addition, if it is a gourmet farm then the duck eggs and goat milk should not b added with the other milk and eggs cause then that means that the goat milk and duck eggs are being sold for less then what they should b, cause the r worth more hence the "GOURMET" part of the gourmet farm. u r making the different animal production meaningless cause they r no longer valued at gourmet prices.
Really? unfair? unjust? This is a game that is FREE if you want it to be. All I see in this thread is a bunch of whining, complaining and crying about a game, that's right a game. This isn't your job, your livelihood doesn't depend on it.
However this is someone's job and their livelihood does depend on players spending money on it, so are you really surprised they re-gear the game to more benefit those who pay? You shouldn't be unless this is your first day on the internet.
Seriously we all need to get over ourselves and try to just play the GAME.