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Horse Breeding & Training - Help, instructions & Tips

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  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 10.05.2015
    If you look on the Tournament News tab, you should be able to see the 4 losses.
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 10.05.2015
    You will find they are different challenges by the same person. I often have the same person come up to be challenged, right after I just challenged them & have been challenged by the same person twice in the same minute sometimes.
  • harduphardup Posts: 125
    edited 10.05.2015
    Well, for me it is the same challenge.

    When I challenge someone - his horse disappears from the availables list after that.

    This is definitely some kind of bug
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 10.05.2015
    hardup wrote: »
    Well, for me it is the same challenge.

    When I challenge someone - his horse disappears from the availables list after that.

    This is definitely some kind of bug

    Most of the time yes, but it is sometimes replaced with the exact same horse again. It happens more often the higher you get, maybe cos there are less people to challenge. Quite often if the same person challenges you twice, they win one & lose one, you have been a bit unlucky if you are always losing both challenges. :(
  • harduphardup Posts: 125
    edited 10.05.2015
    however the chances to win - his xx.xx% - they go up or down after each competition, don't they ?

    Well, they are the exactly the same in my cases, - it looks like the Duplicate copy
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 10.05.2015
    I don`t pay much attention to the % but I will look out for them to see. If you are sure yours are duplicates, you should contact support to get them checked out. Just because its possible to do multiple challenges, doesn't mean that there couldn`t also be a bug. :thumbup:
  • MaggieElig (US1)MaggieElig (US1) Posts: 3
    edited 10.05.2015
    I don't know exactly what is wrong, but something is wrong. I'm losing more than gaining. This started yesterday. Platinum league, rank dropped about 12 points so far today. The formula is off and I cannot advance. Up to this point, I had been advancing little by little.
  • nooca (INT1)nooca (INT1) Posts: 170
    edited 10.05.2015
    MaggieElig wrote: »
    I don't know exactly what is wrong, but something is wrong. I'm losing more than gaining. This started yesterday. Platinum league, rank dropped about 12 points so far today. The formula is off and I cannot advance. Up to this point, I had been advancing little by little.

    You loose more points in higher leagues, so that can be normal.
    In bronze league, you don't loose any points.
    In silver league, you loose 1 point each time someone challenges you and you loose.
    In gold league, you loose 2 points each time someone challenges you and you loose.
    In platinum league, you loose 4 points each time someone challenges you and you loose.

    But the points you get for a won challenge is always 4! So starting platinum league, you actually need to challenge and win a lot more races than other people challenge you and you loose.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 10.05.2015
    Hardup, the % won't change unless one or the other horses changes. I have raced the same horse twice in a row (Because you and Sanayhs were in the first two slots) because they replaced the horse I just raced... with the horse I just raced. Also... if I make say 10 challenges in a row (if I buy gas)... More often than not, some of the same names will reappear. I try not to challenge them immediately... but I have actually had three horses I raced earlier fill my box. And I'm not selfless enough to just wait....

    -Y
  • Smurf8Smurf8 Posts: 235
    edited 10.05.2015
    Hi Hardup, the mail folder at the noticeboard only shows details of people who have challenged you, not the people you have challenged. It is possible that you popped up on their transporter twice in quick succession and were challenged by them on both occasions.

    MaggieElig: I have the same problem, it's not a bug, it's just harder to hold your position the higher you get.
  • rokkefårrokkefår Posts: 7
    edited 12.05.2015
    it is a bug, i win almost all and only had abut 898 and lose abut -4 tats ok but after a ca 1 h i was down to 892 and then after 3h down to 882 and now am dovn to 878 have not play at all and it still going fast down all (am sad):(
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 12.05.2015
    rokkefår wrote: »
    it is a bug, i win almost all and only had abut 898 and lose abut -4 tats ok but after a ca 1 h i was down to 892 and then after 3h down to 882 and now am dovn to 878 have not play at all and it still going fast down all (am sad):(

    You only lose points when other people challenge you and they win, so it does not matter that you have not being playing, you will still lose points if you lose their challenges. You can see on the 2nd tab of the noticeboard who has challenged you and if you won or lost.

    The only way that you can gain points, is if you challenge other people & you win, so if you are not making any challenges, you will only go down, never up.
  • rokkefårrokkefår Posts: 7
    edited 12.05.2015
    The tournament news is random(fake) i only do hors run , but still it is jumping and dresur on the list :(
    The point are going down werry fast every time i go to scorbord it disparage points more than 20 so fare today (i was only losing -4 in the game) I had almost 900(898) wen i stop playing ,and now last time i see it was 874 so am newer stays in platina (it is not fun at all) :(

    it is still going down its now : 872

    lok lik it have stopped on 872: but on the list; every run i was winning :it is standing as i was losing in jumping
    (i did not jump! but hors runing! (i give up this game) grr! :((
  • Mina0o (INT1)Mina0o (INT1) Posts: 1,309
    edited 12.05.2015
    I'm not sure that you understand the concept of the tournament. The results are not fake. You seem to think the the tournament news has anything to do with the challenges you've made. It has not. It show the players that have challenged you. That's a huge difference.

    Let's make an example. You go to the trailer and challenge me. This will not show up in your tournament news (it will show up in mine). But if I would challenge you, you would then see me in that list (while I have no way of seeing it in mine).
    Also keep in mind that you only win points when you challenge someone and you win. And you will only lose points if someone challenges you and they win.

    It's actually a very fair system. I'm said that you're having problems understanding it :(

    Oh yeah, also keep in mind that you can only win 4 point no matter what league you are in but you will lose more points per loss the higher the league is:
    Bronze: no points lost
    Silver: 1 points lost
    Gold: 2 points lost
    Platinum: 4 points lost
    Diamond: 4 points lost
  • Farmhand Dom (US1)Farmhand Dom (US1) Posts: 23
    edited 13.05.2015
    what does "quality" do for a horse?
  • Data King (US1)Data King (US1) US1 Posts: 7,994
    edited 13.05.2015
    Farmhand Dom, Yakoska has referred to your question about "quality"
    "Breed for Quality the Opposite of what is efficient for breeding for Effects.
    IE... You get your first Effect at lvl 10.
    But it seems like doing that never gets you a quality 1, while breeding a lvl 14 or 15 foal has a higher chance.
    The next effects are at 20/35/50/70/90. So try breeding a 19/34/49/69/89 etc level foal instead."
    and as for what it does, I believe it will improve the quality of the foal as it states.
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 13.05.2015
    what does "quality" do for a horse?

    When you bread horses and you get that one new random breeding effect, higher quality means that you have a greater chance to get a better breading effect (strenght +3 instead strenght +1, for example).
  • Farmhand Dom (US1)Farmhand Dom (US1) Posts: 23
    edited 14.05.2015
    thank you very much aaabbb1
  • FarmerMcmommiso (US1)FarmerMcmommiso (US1) US1 Posts: 22
    edited 18.05.2015
    I am getting nowhere with the horse farm! I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I cannot get two horses with a breeding value of 20. I had 1, and tried to get another. But it took so many horseshoes that I gave up. So I tried breeding. Now I feel as if I am back to the beginning. I just can't seem to understand how this works. Since the rest of the game is comprehensible to me, I think there is just something that I am missing about the horse thing. Help!
  • Narinka (US1)Narinka (US1) Posts: 4
    edited 21.05.2015
    I am getting nowhere with the horse farm! I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I cannot get two horses with a breeding value of 20. I had 1, and tried to get another. But it took so many horseshoes that I gave up. So I tried breeding. Now I feel as if I am back to the beginning. I just can't seem to understand how this works. Since the rest of the game is comprehensible to me, I think there is just something that I am missing about the horse thing. Help!
    Hi
    I had the same problem,I just didn't understand the sense of the ranch... This article helped me a little -https://bigfarmtips.wordpress.com/2015/03/ . I'm trying to follow it, now have 4 horses of 25 level. Next step is to breed them and then buy and grow up more 4 horses of 25 level.
  • edited 26.05.2015
    I bought a horse with breeding quality 1= common
    yet when I went to family tree it said both parents 0 never bred
    yet it says the in the announcement
    "Breeding quality level can only be increased through breeding."
    how did this horse get breeding quality?
    Breeding quality

    Talented horses are rare to obtain. A breeding quality indicator will help you to figure out how valuable your horses are.

    An indicator right next to the horse portrait in detail view shows breeding quality - indicating how valuable the respective horse is.
    Influences breeding effects. There is a higher chance for better generated breeding effects , the higher the breeding quality of the horse.


    There are 6 breeding quality levels:
    Common
    Uncommon
    Rare
    Exceptional
    Incredible
    Legendary


    Breeding quality level can only be increased through breeding.
    The foal will receive the more valuable parent's breeding quality level. The higher the foals breeding value, the higher the additional chance for an increase of its breeding quality.
  • nooca (INT1)nooca (INT1) Posts: 170
    edited 26.05.2015
    The rules don't seem to apply to horses in the horse market. You can get horses in the horse market with level/effect/quality combinations that are impossible to breed yourself.
    You have to keep in mind that it is the game that provides the horses in the horse market, not other players. So anything is possible for horse market horses and they just come that way.
  • edited 26.05.2015
    tyvm for your help
    how can I use this breeding quality to my benefit?
    would breeding it with another horse with 1 breeding quality make it a 2nd quality?
    I have one but he is level 40 with just 1 quality
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 26.05.2015
    It seems to me that horses bought on the horse market, when they are a new horse cheap can be trained more levels up, than a new horse you buy in the stable, or a newborn foal, before it gonna be to expensive to train more .

    Yes, you can breed a bought breeding quality 1 horse with a breeding quality 1 horse you have make yourself, and be lucky to get a breeding quality 2 out od it... but only if you're lucky, there's no garanti that a breeding will raise the foals breeding quality higher than the parents or not.
  • edited 26.05.2015
    main horse level 40, quality 1 common, 3 effects
    when I go to the breeding page as I go though the horses there are many differences

    level 26 bred 1 time 1 effect no quality
    level 19 bred 1 time 1 effect no quality
    for both horses on the top box is a GREY quality, bottom box the chance for breeding quality is RED

    level 13 never bred nothing
    top box is a RED quality with no chance on the bottom box (its empty)
    there are 2 empty boxes for effects

    bought horse never bred level 17, 1 quality common
    top box the quality is RED
    2 slots for effects
    bottom box empty no chance

    I have been sticking to the breeding announcement over 10, 20, 35, moving now to 50
    and will continue before breeding
    any ideas where I would get the best LUCK to get a 2 quality horse?
    why the differences of the quality chance and no chance especially with the level 13 never bred nothing?

    looks like my bought horse with the common quality and my boght horse with the 10 gold horseshoes are even?
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 26.05.2015
    There are a lot of threads on this, and these two posts will likely get moved to one of them. Current best advice is something like:

    Breed horses close together in level. Breed after you don't want to train them anymore. Get lucky.

    Other guesses:
    If you breed for effect, that is, you breed just after each effect level, 10, 20, 35, 50, etc... you MAY have less chance of a quality increase. Quality increases SEEM to occur more often at say, lvl 19, 33, 48, etc.

    Keep track of each horses original parentage. The more diverse a blood line you can get, the better, in THEORY your chances of a Quality increase.

    "Chance for a quality increase" notice is broken *(Might be fixed, you never know). My last 4 breeding quality increases have happened with NO chance listed for it to happen, and to my knowledge I may never have gotten a quality increase when there WAS a chance. I have only kept track a little while.

    Breeding Horses who are better in different disciplines (i.e. Show Jumping, Dressage, Racing) MIGHT help.

    Good luck!

    -Y
  • edited 27.05.2015
    tyvm
    I will try the 19, 33, and 48 for quality
    saw the horse threads searched for breeding quality by post
    but nothing came up
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 27.05.2015
    The advantage to having a lower level, high quality horse is that you will have more iterations of breeding, at the higher level. Wether or not the new foal is a better quality, it will have access to (but not guaranteed to get) higher + breeding effects when it does breed. In theory over 12 or so iterations this should pay off vs a starting horse of no quality.

    -Y
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 27.05.2015
    Hi,

    Apart from the theories Yakoska mentioned, this is officially known (confirmed by GGS):

    - If one of parents has a breeding quality, the foal will definitely inherit (at least) that quality.
    - If both parents have a breedning quality, the foal will definitely inherit (at least) the higher quality (if one parent has quality 1 and the other quality 2, the foal will be at least quality 2).
    - The quality can be increased with breading for ONE point (if one parent has quality 1 and the other quality 2, the foal MIGHT get a quality 3, but never a quality 4).
    - There should be an indicator (quality in grey) indicating when horse has least a slight chance of increasing quality, but that indicator does not work as it should, so ignore it.
    -The higher the foals breeding value, the higher the additional chance for an increase of its breeding quality.

    Everything else is just a guess.
    tyvm for your help
    how can I use this breeding quality to my benefit?
    would breeding it with another horse with 1 breeding quality make it a 2nd quality?
    I have one but he is level 40 with just 1 quality

    1. The horse with higher breeding quality has a greater chance to get a good (better) random breeding effect (that is the benefit of breednig quality).
    2. You can get a breeding quality 2 if you breed your quality 1 horse with any other horse (it does not matter if other horse already has a breeding quality 1 or not). BUT it is a random generated effect. No guaranties that you will get a quality 2 horse after breeding.
    Officially, greater is the breading VALUE of the horses, greater is a chance of getting a quality 2 horse after breading. Having
    both horses with quality 1 may increases a chance for quality 2 horse after breednig or may not (nothing officially on that matter).

    Edit by PINJO: merged posts, please use edit button
  • China532China532 Posts: 13
    edited 30.05.2015
    Can anyone tell me what breeding value horses have to be before I get a level 2 horse. No info on the task to tell me. Cheers
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