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Don't take the line out of context. Nowhere in the Championship description does it say the goal is to win. It says the goal is to earn your Co-op hard work rewards. And before anyone says "hard work means playing in missions", let me tell you I work hard for my money, and I assume everyone else does too. So while I would never use my money to get rep points (the value isn't there for me), I don't care if someone else has a different value system than mine.
To me, there is no downside, but I CAN think of an upside. You are the member of a co-op that you like, you respect everyone in it. You go on vacation, like people do... come back to find there's a pile of stuff in your drop box that you hand no hand in earning. You feel guilty because you did nothing to help the co-op. You see a chance, and you buy gold, earning rep for your co-op. You feel better, your co-op mates value your input, even though you didn't have the time others did, you still contributed to the whole.
-Y
Thats a Disney version of whats happening, the reality is that particular players and coops are using the Hot Deal to buy the win, not to help their coop get rewards. Players in the same coop using the Hot Deal 7 times is a tactic not something thats been done because people are on holidays and dont have the time to play missions. At the end of the day buying a win is cheating, i'm staggered by the lack of common sense in this forum at times.
Comparing gold use in missions with using the Hot Deal makes no sense. At least with gold use you are actually PLAYING a mission rather than using your credit card to buy points.
buy rep points as in the mentioned prime bs.
or
have a skip button.
Its never going to be 'gold free'.....and it would be worse with a skip button!
I'm not taking it out of context - it is in the description of how the coop championship is supposed to be played. That is completely in context.
The coop rankings also starts with 'Play missions...', so GGS are telling us what needs to be done to win those prizes - and they do use the word win in both descriptions.
So GGS are clearly stating in their own descriptions that in order for any coop or coop member to win a prize they must play missions. There is no mention that you can avoid the tedious, time consuming, and often boring process of entering missions by simply getting free RP by buying gold.
So either GGs need to amend their descriptions of the championship rules, or they need to stop allowing players to break them by offering RP for gold purchases.
Just so you know, GGS has over one thousand workers, divide the money they make by that number and see if they are "making a fortune." Don't the wrong impression when you see the top few cooperatives buying gold left and right.
if this is correct....what are they all doing???????? there is so many bad things happening in this game with all the many many bugs partying and multiplying in this game that haven't been fixed for a long time....then solo missions which i think for me has been 3 weeks without an opponent so i stopped doing them ( 30 min harvesting for 3 certificates) then all the horse problems, not to mention island problems and even the boat when it arrives crashes the game and you have to clear everything and re log in....benny the trader disappears all the time while the island was going and yep you guessed it had to refresh, clear everything and re log in....what are all those workers doing?????
Wow! One thousand workers to sit on their chairs and scheme how to get players to part with real money using every devious psychological ploy ever invented, and then inventing new ones. They really do earn their wages.
FYI it has been published that two brothers own the GG$ and posted a 96 million profit, presumably after all those one thousand wages were paid out.
GG$ are now having a public flotation. Just how gullible is the public? Well to help the gullibilty along, this thread will be removed, cannot imagine that the sellers would like potential buyers reading all this disgust being expressed by so many about the most nasty tactic that the sales persons have yet demonstrated.
It is morally bankrupt of GG$ staff to design a scenario which enables players to get out a credit card, buy the first place, and not even have to do one mission in the five day mission competition. That is the isssue.
Players who choose to spend gold to speed up missions are at least at their computers conducting themselves in the missions. Their gold usage assists all players scores and whilst it might not seem particularly fair, it is (albeit begrudgingly in some cases,) accepted. Thats one aspect of how GG$ made the 96 million profit, and manage to provide a so called Free to Play game for those who choose that.
Let us hope that the sales persons are sufficiently clever enough to know when to back off. We need no special offer to buy reputation points to pop up this week. The body of disgruntlement has become fat.
In my co-op, we buy boosters to give extra rep points.
THIS is not the same as buying rep points with hot deal.
THE MAIN DIFFERENCE is YOU DON'T PUT IN ANY EFFORT TO PLAY MISSION IN THE LATTER, YOU JUST HAVE TO MOVE SOME MUSCLES TO PULL OUT YOUR CREDIT CARD AND BUY REP POINTS!!
THE MAIN PURPOSE OF CO-OP CHALLENGE IS TO PLAY MISSION!!! Honestly i'm not sure if GGS CAN'T COMPREHEND THIS FACT OR INTENTIONALLY TURNING A BLIND EYE.
And now it is back, takes the fun out of the game completely and feel like quitting the competition right now.
So so disappointed, honestly thought you might of listened to us, shouldn't of been so stupid to think you cared.
Clearly no one at GGS gives a %^&%$ about what us players thinks. Thanks for you continued efforts to destroy the game
Not only do they have to play, but, more importantly, they have to spend their gold to do it. Buying rep points is just that. Buying rep points, plus the gold to spend however they want. Not necessarily on missions. That's really what makes this deal so infamous.
Just my 2 cents.
MBeliever
Exactly. Just because a bunch of their loudest critics complain on the forum doesn't change the data collected from last challenge. This company tracks every gold purchase and gold use. This deal that we are all up in arms over makes them money. So they will continue to run it.
This is a business.
If we stay #1 it will because we earned it and didn't just pull out a credit card and buy first place. Many of our people are retired and can't buy gold but they are serious players and they support the coop and the game itself. PLEASE get rid of his horrible buying of rep points. It takes away from everyone. How could anyone feel they had truly won if they bought that standing.
This is a reply to George. It's true this is a business. I also run a business. However I do it fairly. Letting someone who has done nothing to be part of a "competition" and can just buy their position is bad for business as fewer and fewer people will participate in this as time goes on.
Edit by PINJO: merged posts, please use edit button
The solution to this puzzle might be simplier than you think. Either they are GGS agents being payed for promoting bad morals to support the company's economic expansion plans, or they are just ......... eh, sorry, I can't really type that publicly ......
........... moral awarenes may be on decline in some areas. Or some people just exclude moral aspects from their life.
Weird, I was trying to capture both posts while Pinjo was merging....wouldn't let me. Now I know why..
Okay great, run your business as you see fit. It's your opinion this is not fair and you are entitled to it. Which is great, I sort of agree with you.
This company is very statistically driven. They track everything and analysis the data. Obviously this data from the last challenge showed more people bought it then the number of people that posted complaints on the forum.
I do agree that the people you are most likely to lose are frustrated players that don't buy gold or can not afford gold. But, I'm sure GGS doesn't lose any sleep over them.
As a coop leader, I would prefer all farmers to work for and earn those rep points. Most of us enjoy playing because of the strategy, preparation and sometimes sheer luck of the game. It is anoying enough when farmers use gold in missions.... But at least they are playing a mission, using time, energy and resources. Now, you do not even need to be in a single mission to receive those rep points.
Oh yes, I hear those that say, "If you do not like it, do not buy them!" Well, I do not, but when other farmers do, it effects the morale of the coop and the game in general. It is not jealousy, more likely disappointment that, once again, those with real disposable cash can "Buy" their way to the top. Rankings mean little to nothing when a farmer, in less than 1 minute, can "Purchase" up to 1,750,000 rep points. And this can happen several times during a coop challenge. If no one purchased gold during these bonus offers, they would be dropped as not profitable. So, the fact that they returned, indicates to me that farmers are buying them.
I also know that GGS is a for-profit company. I have defended gold purchase and use on these forums before. But I think, this time. GGS and "Competitiveness for ranking" has gone too far.
My (not purchased with gold) two cents worth.
Rogue Moon