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Update Feb 12 - The Horse Market - Discussion

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  • Margitorix (SKN1)Margitorix (SKN1) Posts: 87
    edited 12.02.2015
    Wath the H. happend my horse shop went from having desent BL to now selling BL 5 and 6 and a BL 44 whit lots less quality than the offer before the quick fix ???????

    had a 44 - 33 and 19 before the quickfix cant remember the difrent strength but this is ridiculus offering Me BL 5. 34.710 GH and 6 0 GH 297 Gold and a 44 docility +2 +2 and speed +9 for 151.135 GH 0 gold just not this kind of horses I need the BL 33 I was about to buy before the server went down had a ribbon 1 and the quality I needed but once again a smart fix chage evrything but the everlasting bugs we can complain about for months and still have to fix them ourselffs through clearing caches and refreshing the browser ;-(

    have on stock in the stable lots of horses ready for breeding just waited for to days up date and was preparing to go shopping when the training session was finish ;-(

    ps just to mentioned the first offer before the quick fix was rigth for the levels of horses I had in the stable and after the fix it gave no sense ;-(
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 12.02.2015
    Yes mistie - at our Dutch Server NL1 - everything was gone too: Omar, the Shell-trader, our tournament-board tells us Tournament is over, no Hawaï event, etc. etc.

    .... we all just restarted the PC - this solves most of those glitches :p
  • mistie (US1)mistie (US1) US1 Posts: 304
    edited 12.02.2015
    Thanks Jiesta!!!
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 12.02.2015
    I think this horse have an elegance level which not possible to get by other ways than buy a horse with that so high elegance level?
    - At least I have not seen so high levels in the normal way of breeding effects:
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    But the price for it... are you serius about that GGS? - (if so... forget it!!!)
    - and I also have to ask... is that really a random, the gold price is exactly the same as I have on my account?
  • nannsi (SKN1)nannsi (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 325
    edited 12.02.2015
    well, the price for the horse I can buy is far more gold than I have in my account.

    No way I will ever be able to buy an really interessting horse :(
  • Margitorix (SKN1)Margitorix (SKN1) Posts: 87
    edited 12.02.2015
    I think this horse have an elegance level which not possible to get by other ways than buy a horse with that so high elegance level?
    - At least I have not seen so high levels in the normal way of breeding effects:
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    But the price for it... are you serius about that GGS? - (if so... forget it!!!)
    - and I also have to ask... is that really a random, the gold price is exactly the same as I have on my account?

    Seems the gold price of the horses are compared to the level of Your tophorse havent seen prices over 700 gold on those 2 offers i had (the one before the q.fix and after) had the one I was gooing to by 576 gold and 134k gold shoes ;-)

    ps I have a tophorse lvl 78 and was going to buy a lvl 44 horse for that amount mentioned above ;-)

    pps I could have had my tophorse whit those numbers if I had chosen that way through the breeding ;-) and the rigth luck whit the choices boxes ;-) so yeahh Your rigth about thats not so fair I have been breeding for months and all my fruits ti the ship came from the first Island where I did use a lot of gold expecting the prices in the end was worh the time anf gold and was so disapointed I only made one more Island whitout gold and didn't opende the viking Island was forced to opendee this Island to start breeding new horses so I could get a new horse to my tophorse ( lack of horseshoes) so I'm not very happy that more than ½ a Years hard work now can be acivede in a couple of days ( my tophorse haven't been trained for 4 weeks)
  • FilipeczekFilipeczek Posts: 275
    edited 12.02.2015
    Ehh, after the update the horses are a bit cheaper and only the most expensive one require gold. BUT the other two have no breeding quality. They are just levelled up at 10 or 12. Why should I buy level 12 horse for 15 000 golden horseshoes if I can train normal horse to this level within just few days. So now all what I see in this market is useless unless I really spend few thousand gold... :( (yes, for gold I can buy a horse with breeding effect "jumping +15 points" , it's really big difference. This will only make the gap between gold players and non gold players much bigger and it's very discouraging I think. Up to this moment of the game the horses were my favourite element of the game but I don't know now :( I wonder if I will be able to stay in gold league to the end of the season without buying gold )

    Previously at least offered horses had the breeding value "normal" which was one of the reasons I thought one of them may be usable in my stable. I wanted to buy one for 20 000 golden horseshoes and 48gold because it had this breeding quality one. As soon as I collected enough golden horseshoes ( I had 19 000 GH when the market appeared) the rules changed. And what I can buy now? Breeding value 0, level 12, no breeding effects and costs 15 000 golden horseshoes. Maybe better offers come with time?

    And by the way how lovely way to show players in the bronze and silver league what they deserve giving dung as a price for the end of the season?! Is this really a fun price for starting in horse competition?! I cannot imagine it in real life and well maybe I sound like I don't have a sense of humour but I actually find it a bit sad to receive this kind of price at the end of competition season. That should at least be replaced with some apples or something... ;)
  • Yon Beast (US1)Yon Beast (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 12.02.2015
    Guys....WITHOUT the horse shop it costs you 12000 training shoes (and 10 comp shoes to buy) to make yourself a level 14 horse. do it twice and breed. Train it twice (18000 training shoes) and its lvl 25+ . Thats 42000 training shoes.
    effects are generated randomly (@10,20, 35, 50, 70 and 90) and they DO come as large as 13 (I have a 12 to go with that horse,as well)

    After looking at the horse shop....I don't think I will be using it to buy horses. They are overpriced it seems to me and offer no clear advantage, imo...that I can see.

    Point is, there are players out there that know what they're doing and have great horses....and they never used the shop!

    Where is the family tree?
  • Margitorix (SKN1)Margitorix (SKN1) Posts: 87
    edited 12.02.2015
    Yon Beast wrote: »
    Guys....WITHOUT the horse shop it costs you 12000 training shoes (and 10 comp shoes to buy) to make yourself a level 14 horse. do it twice and breed. Train it twice (18000 training shoes) and its lvl 25+ . Thats 42000 training shoes.
    effects are generated randomly (@10,20, 35, 50, 70 and 90) and they DO come as large as 13 (I have a 12 to go with that horse,as well)

    After looking at the horse shop....I don't think I will be using it to buy horses. They are overpriced it seems to me and offer no clear advantage, imo...that I can see.

    Where is the family tree?

    the family tree only goes back to the parents in the rigth hand corner of the horses window You can see the parents names but thats all if You want to have a propper family tree You got to write it down on Your pc or on paper ;-)
  • Yon Beast (US1)Yon Beast (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 12.02.2015
    Margitorix wrote: »
    the family tree only goes back to the parents in the rigth hand corner of the horses window You can see the parents names but thats all if You want to have a propper family tree You got to write it down on Your pc or on paper ;-)

    I mean for the new horse in the shop.

    Do you have to buy it to see the tree?....that would be bs....so I would guess you ARE buying a purebred and not a mutt?
  • Margitorix (SKN1)Margitorix (SKN1) Posts: 87
    edited 12.02.2015
    No the quality of the horse You buy are standing in the window if it got any bennefits ribbons in top left corner or breeding Qualitys underneath the horse window the parents arn't mentioned only their fools quality (the horse for sale ) so You'll know before You buy wath kind of horse You get ;-)
  • FilipeczekFilipeczek Posts: 275
    edited 12.02.2015
    Yon Beast wrote: »
    Guys....WITHOUT the horse shop it costs you 12000 training shoes (and 10 comp shoes to buy) to make yourself a level 14 horse. do it twice and breed. Train it twice (18000 training shoes) and its lvl 25+ . Thats 42000 training shoes.
    effects are generated randomly (@10,20, 35, 50, 70 and 90) and they DO come as large as 13 (I have a 12 to go with that horse,as well)

    After looking at the horse shop....I don't think I will be using it to buy horses. They are overpriced it seems to me and offer no clear advantage, imo...that I can see.


    Point is, there are players out there that know what they're doing and have great horses....and they never used the shop!

    Where is the family tree?

    Yes, I agree. The horses on the market are overpriced and in general it's hard to see real advantage of buying any (despite maybe the GH+gold horses, they are much, much better).
    But maybe, just MAYBE better offers will appear once in a while.

    After all one of the most successful show jumping horses in history - Snowman was bought for 80dollars and saved form his way to slaughter house. So maybe that GGS will make from time to time special talented horses to buy for a smaller amount of Golden Horseshoes, who knows?

    I think it's good to keep one free place in the stable and certain amount of Golden Horseshoes, just for a case like that. :)
  • GAPeach299GAPeach299 Posts: 2
    edited 12.02.2015
    When I bought my new horse, my original horse disappeared. Anybody else have this happen?
  • FilipeczekFilipeczek Posts: 275
    edited 12.02.2015
    Did you have a free place for new horse in your stable? If not, then maybe the new one replaced the old one? ?(
  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 13.02.2015
    Trippel2 wrote: »
    Some players have an uncontrollable urge to be 'the best', no matter the costs. GGS doesn't rob these players, they provide them with an shortcut. There is no better market then selling 'game smartness' to players who obviously need it. As long as awareness is not included in the deal, its infinite.

    Nothing wrong with a player who saves and catches a gold deal that in turn allows them to play better and smarter with gold. Why people insist on knocking people who are actually working and saving in real life so they can enjoy the benefits gold brings to their game play just amazes me.

    Having issues with gold in general is one thing, but making it personal by aiming negative comments at gold players is another.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 13.02.2015
    Nafaru wrote: »
    Hey Muddud2,

    the new horses you can buy certainly won't surpass your current best horse in terms of attributes, breeding value and breeding effects. At least not at the moment you can purchase them.

    They will have a significantly lower breeding value to begin with but can be used to breed new horses that might be able to surpass your existing horses in the long run, after some more training and breeding.

    They might also be more specialized than your existing horses, with nice breeding effect combinations that are not as much based on luck as the ones of horses you bred yourself.

    All in all horse market horses will enable you to breed faster and focus a lot more on getting the perfect attribute combination.

    Cheers,
    Steffi

    " can breed new horses that MIGHT be able to surpass your existing horses in the long run, after some more training and breeding "
    Cannot we do all the above with just a Joe Blogg horse.
    I have bred 17 pairs of horses and still not got another common breeding effect ! Thought we could get a "super Horse" with just 64 horses, it's going to 1,064 at this rate
  • edited 13.02.2015
    yorkydevil wrote: »
    " can breed new horses that MIGHT be able to surpass your existing horses in the long run, after some more training and breeding "
    Cannot we do all the above with just a Joe Blogg horse.
    I have bred 17 pairs of horses and still not got another common breeding effect ! Thought we could get a "super Horse" with just 64 horses, it's going to 1,064 at this rate

    At what level are you breeding your horses? To not have had a breeding effect yet seems odd, at least with that many breedings. You do have to check the box when it pops up to get the effect... Once you've bred the horses that is.

    I haven't got an effect every time, but have all but twice. That would be out of about 8 breedings. So about 3/4 of the time. But mine are all level 15 and higher when I breed them too, except this last time, they were level 10 and 11 and I got +1 strength for the effect.

    Hope you can get yours figured out soon!

    I do agree, the "might" and "significantly less" are just not real winner words for the horse shop. Spend more to get horses that could, maybe, possibly out do a horse you already have sounds a little not worth it to me too. :S

    I figured when they were bringing about a horse shop that it meant you'd actually have something worth buying. I guess I can't say a whole lot on it yet until I hear feedback from others that actually bought the horses and say they train faster then a normal 2nd or 3rd Gen horse. But far less expensive to just train up a horse and get those special attributes than it is to buy one...so far, from what I've seen and heard. Still only day one yet!!
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 13.02.2015
    yorkydevil wrote: »
    I have bred 17 pairs of horses and still not got another common breeding effect !
    At what level are you breeding your horses? To not have had a breeding effect yet seems odd, at least with that many breedings.

    I agree, Jojo, but I suspect Yorky means 'breeding quality', due to the use of the word 'Common.'

    -Y
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 13.02.2015
    I guess I can't say a whole lot on it yet until I hear feedback from others that actually bought the horses and say they train faster then a normal 2nd or 3rd Gen horse. But far less expensive to just train up a horse and get those special attributes than it is to buy one...so far, from what I've seen and heard. Still only day one yet!!

    I got one, not much info for you yet, but it is a level 11 & first training of 1980 shoes goes over level 21.
  • AngieGamer71 (US1)AngieGamer71 (US1) Posts: 117
    edited 13.02.2015
    Bought a BV 35 endurance +4... trained from 35-40 and 40 to 45 with 2 max trains
  • DeavaRuler (US1)DeavaRuler (US1) Posts: 2
    edited 13.02.2015
    come on guy's a lv40 horse!!!!! Really!! that leaves me out,:( which is not fare!!!!! why not find a way to make it so that everyone has the chance to buy a horse!!:D not everyone is in a position to get the amount of horseshoes needed to get to lv40 especially when you make these temp farms which I guess if you don't complete the whole thing you lose everything that you built on it,:( like what happened to me!! so now I don't bother with the temp farms, and I know I'm not the only one!!! and the boat dose not offer enough horseshoes to Evan get to lv20 so how do you want us to get enough horseshoes to get a horse to lv40?? ;(
  • edited 13.02.2015
    I got one, not much info for you yet, but it is a level 11 & first training of 1980 shoes goes over level 21.

    Okay, Scissors and Angie! Thanks! That sounds pretty good so far then... I'm still a couple levels from getting the horse shop, but I'm looking forward to browsing the merchandise even if I can't get one yet. Depends on price though. I do have a fair amount of the gold horseshoes, but only 100 gold to my name at the moment, and for the foreseeable future... No super fancy horse shop horse coming my way for a loooooong while.

    Then again, I still don't see the reason for the fancy horse yet either! They are kind of fun to train and figure out how to get breeding "quality" which is my next endeavor, but other than that no real use to me.

    Yakoska - I'm thinking you are probably right on that too...breeding quality makes a lot more sense. I've had no luck with that, but haven't really tried for it yet either. Been waiting to hear hints about it, but so far it seems to be just a luck thing! Trying to get my horses up a little further before breeding again to see if things turn out for me. Have a horse at level 31 and one at 23, both seem to low to me for trying for it yet. One is 2nd and other a 3rd gen horse though...so hopefully that helps out a bit with it.
  • gizmo22 (AU1)gizmo22 (AU1) AU1 Posts: 1,720
    edited 13.02.2015
    yorkydevil wrote: »
    GGS being simply rude,? more like their sticking their two fingers up at us again. MONEY MONEY MONEY is all that GGS care about. They would sell their great Grannies teeth if it got them a Gold Sale.

    I agree, its becoming blatantly obvious especially during the last 6 months that the main goal of GGS is to make money. Many threads have been started criticizing the horse ranch along with other gold grab updates that have been introduced and its clear that we are being ignored. On the rare occasion that criticism is answered by a moderator its either a vague explanation thats hard to understand or a blatant lie. The game is still littered with bugs and nothing is being done about it. For the mission players it seems the majority of missions played are solo missions so that is also pointless.

    I look at the game now compared to about a year ago and have to say the concept of farming is now being lost in a heap of bugs, popups, and gold grab updates that have very little to do with actual farming and more to do with filling the pockets of GGS.
  • GAPeach299GAPeach299 Posts: 2
    edited 13.02.2015
    I have space, it has one there for me to buy now. The one that disappeared I had to a good high level. Thanks.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 13.02.2015
    gizmo222 wrote: »
    .... I look at the game now compared to about a year ago and have to say the concept of farming is now being lost in a heap of bugs, popups, and gold grab updates that have very little to do with actual farming and more to do with filling the pockets of GGS.....


    Agreed !!!

    This was initially a farming game, now is a gambling game in a farming environment

  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 13.02.2015
    I'm looking forward to browsing the merchandise even if I can't get one yet. Depends on price though. I do have a fair amount of the gold horseshoes, but only 100 gold to my name at the moment, and for the foreseeable future... No super fancy horse shop horse coming my way for a loooooong while.

    Of the 6 I have been offered so far, 4 needed shoes & gold, 1 was shoes only (48,000) & 1 was gold only (350).
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    edited 13.02.2015
    PCA wrote: »

    Agreed !!!

    This was initially a farming game, now is a gambling game in a farming environment


    i agree that the game is no longer a farming game , i cant believe how fast a bug gets fixed if it is the loss of ggs pocket but other bugs just get left or covered up and more bugs added.
  • SAUGATA4SAUGATA4 Posts: 59
    edited 13.02.2015
    Griffith wrote: »
    not sure if I'm gonna like this update...
    basically it seems not only horseshoes but also now after this update golden horseshoes will be only wasted on horses to just get very little prize from horse competition? was hoping we actually can win something else than these crappy tournament prizes from golden horseshoes at least... it seems like an almost pointless circle. (like i guessed from the start anyway) and to make it worse, ppl can buy horses with gold too, which will probably be way superior than normal or golden horseshoe horses even, or in other words normal players wont have any chance to win anything "actually" good from the tournament even anyway then.

    so let's list it again:

    dollar > island/viking dollar > shells/runestones > seeds > fruits > ship load > horseshoes > golden horseshoes > horses > only these crappy tournament prizes every 2 month?!!

    this is soooooo much effort for soooo little outcome honestly... and let me guess Almond and Peach special orchards are prizes of Diamond league probably which only again is attainable only by extreme gold users?

    I'd say lol you're simply being rude to Majority of your players GGS.


    Very well said. Exactly the feeling of a majority of players. After all the hype some more worth while was expected from the outcome of the whole cycle.
  • Pingo42Pingo42 Posts: 537
    edited 13.02.2015
    I haven't bought a horse from the market yet but was just talking to a member of my co-op who bought a level 23 horse, bred it to a level 22, and wound up with a level 14 foal. I've done a lot of breeding, and the foals have always had a breeding value similar to the parents (or midway, if the parents had different BV's). I've never heard of a foal having a BV that was significantly less than either parent. Now I'm wondering if buying a market horse is such a good idea. What are other people finding with breeding these horses?

    Edit: It seems my friend was mistaken - the foal from the breeding was actually level 20-something, right where it should have been. Sorry for unintentionally misleading people.
  • edited 13.02.2015
    Of the 6 I have been offered so far, 4 needed shoes & gold, 1 was shoes only (48,000) & 1 was gold only (350).

    Umm, yea, that is waaaay out of my range, so not happening for I don't know, a year maybe!! Too bad!:(
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