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  • Kevin3Farmer2Kevin3Farmer2 Posts: 36
    edited 12.10.2014
    FloGamer32 wrote: »
    I miss being able to choose which mission to do, and the variety of missions available. It actually required some planning before and there was more choice and to be honest people are still being unfairly matched now so I don't think it was worth changing.

    I'm not sure I agree about "unfairly matched". GGS has to pick from the folks who want a mission in a 5-minute period. I'm guessing that we're getting the best they can find. I haven't been matched with any 200-level players yet, and I know those folks are on _a lot_. If they narrowed the criteria, I think the tradeoff would be getting more solo missions. Personally, I'll take the matches I'm getting over the solo missions I sometimes get.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 25.10.2014
    i didnt read this post although i tried to.....too long ZZzZzZZZZzZ:cursing:
    Plus what's with the scary avatar. it is not a fighting game...just saying .:S
  • Maryann57 (US1)Maryann57 (US1) Posts: 90
    edited 30.10.2014
    I heard that they used to be able to pick their missions. Not sure if that's true but I would really like to pick what mission I want or at least field or non field
  • jatoda (US1)jatoda (US1) Posts: 318
    edited 01.11.2014
    Almost always I do missions all by myself. I think GGS has set it up this way so we don't get as many certificates, as we would against others. Also if you don't participate against another player in a mission, or your competitor doesn't compete against you, the certificates are not as many, as it would be if your competitor had participated. What a rip off. Guess I should not expect any different, the way GGS always changes things. Most of the time making it worse.
  • Dark Underworld (AU1)Dark Underworld (AU1) AU1 Posts: 2,992
    edited 04.11.2014
    I agree about solo missions. At one stage I had 63 solo missions in a row. what a waste of time this was. Most of my missions are still solo. I get 19 in 20 solo missions for me this means if I am lucky I will get 1 mission per day where I have someone else to compete against. This makes mission very boring.
    Maryann572 wrote: »
    I heard that they used to be able to pick their missions. Not sure if that's true but I would really like to pick what mission I want or at least field or non field

    Yes this is true, but mission started at certain times and length or mission varied from 30mins to 24hrs, depending on what you wanted to do.

    Missions were not continuous, which was a downfall. Rewards were different as well.

    I did like the old format where you could select your mission. But they could have been changed to run more often with similar rewards as present missions.

    Edit by PINJO: merged posts, please use edit button
  • MLJ1963 (US1)MLJ1963 (US1) Posts: 25
    edited 06.11.2014
    Well all I can say is that, there is a great disparity in player levels in the missions. There are a couple of us who are a level 89 the rest range from levels 160-226. Now, when you start an egg mission and they have 12,000+ eggs at the start....who even wants to try?
  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 06.11.2014
    Maryann572 wrote: »
    I heard that they used to be able to pick their missions. Not sure if that's true but I would really like to pick what mission I want or at least field or non field

    yep, until the update happened that was the way it was. the only problem was that you had to wait til a certain time for it to happen, the ones i reemember started at 2am my time, do not know about anyone else

    Now onto the current update, has anyone changed their mind about the new missions? I for one am refusing to use gold. GGS has found a way to encourage use by players and you will in a likelyhood, see more players using it to get more reputation points to win the missions. It just shows how (putting it mildly) GGS is trying to force people to use gold.

    To be frank, I do buy gold, but i use it on things like buildings, skipping productioon when the architect is here, library books, and researchers, that is where my gold comes into use.
  • cinshaw2cinshaw2 Posts: 2
    edited 06.11.2014
    Maybe people don't play missions because they don't like them! I myself hate them. I feel like I am being forced to play them if I want to play Big Farm. I like to just tend my farm and accomplish the tasks at my pace. Now, if I want to go to the island, I have to play missions. If I want to do the tractor, I have to play missions, etc. Do you really think dressing up missions and ambushing people with them, people will want to play them? Please just take the hint everyone is trying to tell you and quit with the missions. If people aren't playing them, maybe they don't like them.
  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 06.11.2014
    cinshaw2 wrote: »
    Maybe people don't play missions because they don't like them! I myself hate them. I feel like I am being forced to play them if I want to play Big Farm. I like to just tend my farm and accomplish the tasks at my pace. Now, if I want to go to the island, I have to play missions. If I want to do the tractor, I have to play missions, etc. Do you really think dressing up missions and ambushing people with them, people will want to play them? Please just take the hint everyone is trying to tell you and quit with the missions. If people aren't playing them, maybe they don't like them.


    I agreew that you have to play missions, but really, how hard is it to get the minimum required for the island (30 certs) i think. Just play some missions using minimum playing and you could have enough to last for a long time. I know it is a pain, but, you should be able to get at least 200 certs that will last for about a year
  • Josiexox2Josiexox2 Posts: 8
    edited 11.11.2014
    : gold users in the missions removed...we spend our time building up our farms and then someone uses gold to beat us wow, how fair is that

    Orieo

    Edit by PINJO: removed inappropriate word
  • Changnian (US1)Changnian (US1) Posts: 18
    edited 13.11.2014
    The current mission system attempts to deal all at once with all possible accusations that some player's approach is unfair to others. These "unfair" approaches include such things as fast-forwarding harvests with gold, dumping humus on corn, or planting special crops and waiting for the right mission to harvest them. Naturally, anyone who doesn't win, suspects others of "cheating".

    However, the effect of the floating bracket system is to penalize winners regardless of how we win; we are placed into successively higher brackets until we start to lose. Losers are rewarded for losing; they face successively weaker competition until they start to win missions. The plain truth is that we are all rewarded more or less equally for the simple number of missions we play; how we play them is of no account in the long run.

    I don't think I care particularly what mission system is in place; but it should reward players who work harder or smarter.
  • JustMe (AU1)JustMe (AU1) Posts: 170
    edited 13.11.2014
    I like the idea of gold and non gold missions especially as 3 minutes into a corn mission someone has 965 ....how is that even possible , bot player ?

    completely possible and fair. they had nursery seeds planted w/ or w/o humus that were ready or almost ready to harvest when the mission started. Some people sit out their flower missions waiting for the corn so they can harvest several fields of nursery corn.

    I am not a gold player, sometimes I have nursery seeds of flowers or corn planted but not often when the right mission pops up. I don't care. I don't watch the missions that close they are just something I do in the background when I am playing. Sometimes I hold a harvest (for dung/eggs/corn/flowers) near the end of a mission to see if I need it in the next one. It is luck of the draw. I don't get upset if someone has a super large harvest or if by luck of the draw I get dung first thing in the morning and have everything waiting so I win. Sure winning is nice but there are a lot of people playing and we can't all win. If someone wants to gold every mission more power to them, it is not changing my game. I still harvest all I can for the 30 mins because it will sill give me more certs than giving up because I see I can't win. People used gold in the old missions, people did preplanned planting etc to be ready when it started just like they do now. At least our rep points count for something now (the challenge) and we earn certs which help with tractors and improve the farm.
  • rhinanarhinana Posts: 561
    edited 13.11.2014
    Josiexox2 wrote: »
    : gold users in the missions removed...we spend our time building up our farms and then someone uses gold to beat us wow, how fair is that

    Orieo

    Edit by PINJO: removed inappropriate word

    Sweetheart, gold users make this game free for you.
  • JustMe (AU1)JustMe (AU1) Posts: 170
    edited 13.11.2014
    rhinana wrote: »
    Sweetheart, gold users make this game free for you.

    exactly...and are why we don't have pesky ads on the screen for insurance, cars, loans, etc. Nothing in life is free :) I have tried other games, the ads take up much of the screen and when you accidently click on one you never know where you will end up.

    Like I said I am not a big gold player, I use some but most of what I have bought was invested in the co-op. This is my choice to play the game my way, to improve my farm slowly. I know some very advanced farms who never bought any gold at all, I know some that buy gold every week what they have in common is they enjoy the game and the people they play with in the co-op and do it their way.

    Using gold in a mission is not cheating or having an unfair advantage it is a choice. Being mad because someone uses gold to beat you is also a choice. It is a game, have fun, let it go.
  • Yon Beast (US1)Yon Beast (US1) Posts: 60
    edited 14.11.2014
    I'm not sure its been mentioned, but there seems to be a lot of people that feel missions are unfair.

    In my limited experience, rewards are issued in direct correlation with the amount collected.

    wildflowers, for example.... 17000 collected in 30 mins will get me near 500 certificates.
    4000 collected with no gold or special seeds will still be 200+ certificates.

    These numbers are roughly the same if I am playing against five others, or playing against myself...as is the case a lot lately.

    yes....those are usually a win.... but that's not the point.
    The point is you compete for the certificates....the more product you produce, the more certificates you earn.
  • LeslieCVT (US1)LeslieCVT (US1) Posts: 1
    edited 17.11.2014
    Hi all my fellow farmers!
    I wanted to add my opinion to this topic. I agree with a lot of you on the fact that there should be a division of gold use vs. no gold use. I think that would even the odds a lot.
    However, I also feel that there should be longer missions (hour long to 6 hour long) to collect things like apples and cabbage. Maybe have missions involving collecting honey or jasmine from the flower farm or pies/baked goods from the gourmet farm. Or better yet, collect fallen leaves from all the orchards! I don't know about the rest of you, but I am tired of collecting corn, wild flowers, eggs and dung! It is getting very boring.
    I try to keep my missions going throughout the day collecting what I can in reputation points and certificates. I use minimal amounts of gold on occasion, but not very often as I can't afford to. I get frustrated when I have a mission and am doing really well only to have someone with a lot more gold than I come blow me out of the water at the last minute.
    Anyway, not to beat a dead horse, but a division of gold use and no gold use would be good. I don't think you need to change the amount of reward (other than with the gold they will get a bigger reward by collecting more).
    In reading through some of the other treads, the one that stands out the most is a chat for mission....that would be fun and would help people get to know each other. I know I have "talked" with people I have been in missions with before via the messenger, but a chat for the mission would make it easier.
    Well, there is my two cents worth. I hope it helps. :)
  • ShirlAnn (US1)ShirlAnn (US1) Posts: 11
    edited 19.11.2014
    My problem with missions is not knowing what it will be. It's a major pain if your co-op is doing one thing the mission pops up with something you can't do.

    Example: Co-op is doing Straw-brained or cabbage head and your mission comes up with corn or wild flowers. I have eight fields, 4 with wheat and 4 with cabbage for the co-op where am I supposed to put corn or wild flowers??

    Before you say it, I do not buy gold often and right now the island is robbing me of what little I do have. Will I be doing any missions soon, probably not.
  • Gwendolen (US1)Gwendolen (US1) Posts: 1,268
    edited 24.11.2014
    ShirlAnn, I personally think it's a waste to use gold on the island, cause it will be gone again in a month.
  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 24.11.2014
    I have a questioin i was thining about. Why is it a waste of time using gold on the island.
    I refuse to do it but I think of it this way.
    How much longer deo you plan on playing big farm? for the rest of your life? because that is what it amounts to, the island is just temporary just like playing this game. I know I may sound stupid when i ask that, but I believe it is something everyone should think of when saying using gold is stupid.
  • Gwendolen (US1)Gwendolen (US1) Posts: 1,268
    edited 24.11.2014
    You are right, it is everybodies choice ofcourse :) That is why I said it was mý opinion it's a waste to use it on the island. But on the other hand, if someone doesn't think it is, why shouldn't they use it :)
  • Margit kattMargit katt Posts: 153
    edited 01.12.2014
    I just can't read through all the pages right now, but I must say this was a very much needed thread!

    Personally I was matched up on the levels of 20 against people that were on level 100 or above!

    I also agree with several points on this poll!

    Level/reputation plays a big roll. It should also be divided up so those that can't/wont use gold has their own missions. Trying to use gold should then "lock you up".

    I ALSO agree with knowing who you're going up to (if not divided into ranges of different levels) and be able to choose is very important. Also. It should be listed what the prizes are in advance.

    So basically. ALL the things in the poll are all very good! But the best are about the gold and levels!

    I also wonder why some take part in these mission and do absolutely nothing????? Has that to do with the reputation or????
  • edited 10.01.2015
    I would like to know what the mission is before I begin it. If I have wheat growing, I would hardly like my solo mission to be wildflowers or corn and tired of praying it is dung when in that situation. I also like the above idea of being able to chat with fellow mission folks.
  • dwimbruk (GB1)dwimbruk (GB1) Posts: 24
    edited 02.02.2015
    Here's my thoughts, for what they're worth.

    The thing I'd most like to change is to get rid of Wild Flower missions. I never grow wild flowers, so if I get one of those missions I either have to stop what I'm growing and grow flowers, or ignore it, both of which are annoying. Also, the rewards are rubbish compared to what you can get from eggs and dung.

    Re the other suggestions:
    1. Having gold / non-gold missions sounds like a good idea, but it won't happen. The reason - from my experience, not many people use gold. Therefore the number of people doing the 'gold' missions would be very small, meaning those who did them wouldn't have many (if any) opponents, meaning that it wouldn't be worth them using gold. Gold usage would therefore decrease, and GoodGame wouldn't like that, therefore it won't happen.

    2. 'Show the number of competitors before the mission starts'. Sorry, but this is dumb. How can the game know how many people are going to sign up in the five minutes?

    3. Fix the way competitors are matched up (by Level / Reputation points). Another bad idea. It's difficult enough to get a decent number of opponents as it is at the moment (on my server, anyway). If they made it so you could only play people exactly your level, you'd be playing against yourself for 95% of the time...

    Get rid of Wild Flower missions. It's the only way to go :p
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 03.02.2015
    dwimbruk wrote: »
    The thing I'd most like to change is to get rid of Wild Flower missions. I never grow wild flowers, so if I get one of those missions I either have to stop what I'm growing and grow flowers, or ignore it, both of which are annoying. Also, the rewards are rubbish compared to what you can get from eggs and dung.

    Get rid of Wild Flower missions. It's the only way to go :p

    If we were choosing one to get rid of, I would choose corn & I am sure you could find another person that would choose dung & another saying eggs lol

    There are probably not many people with farms that are ideal for all 4 at a high level, so everyone will have their own preferences, I know for a fact there are people that LOVE Wildflowers, personally I don`t mind them either.
  • xRedeyex (US1)xRedeyex (US1) US1 Posts: 75
    edited 16.02.2015
    Obviously they didn't take any comments in this thread to heart. And this thread was started in 2013,

    I'm lvl 46 and I was up against a 92, 100, 110, 130, and a 149. Don't say yeah but you'll still receive something, because at this rate I'll get the several hundred certs I need this time next year.;( and that''s just for 1 upgrade. btw I came in 5th and got 4 certs. "sigh"....
  • Bondenson2 (US1)Bondenson2 (US1) US1 Posts: 929
    edited 16.02.2015
    Hey farmers!

    I don't really know if it's the right place to post this, but I didn't wanted to open a new topic... for my fisrt time on the forum.. I lost my way trying to find where to post...

    Sorry.. I just wanted to share what happened to me for my very first mission on the game :
    8420041rstmission.png

    For a very first mission, I was very surprised to face such high levels... No need to tell you what was my final ranking... :(


    Just wanted to know if it was a "normal" or an odd situation.
    I don't want to complain as I just arrived on this nice game.

    Have fun!
    ;):):D
    EDIT

    Well, finally my second and my current third mission gave me the answer... It's "normal" to face players up to 63 levels ahead mine... I'm not ready to win one before... a long time I suppose...

    w434.png

    I am not really complaining yet... just feeling a bit grumpy...
    Have fun!
    ;):):D
  • edited 26.02.2015
    Selling 250,000 rep points for 15,000 gold during the competition has ruined it for me. I am sorry but that is just not right. It is bad enough using gold to win a mission and now this. I am done with the competitions from now on.
  • robot092robot092 Posts: 1
    edited 26.02.2015
    Working through the missions while others coast through them with the use of gold truely is annoying and makes it hard to find a reason to do the missions. i only do them during the coop challenge to help my coop out. Otherwise i just stay away from them. Too much unfairness to play honestly against one another
  • CharishCharish Posts: 2
    edited 27.02.2015
    I think having a 5 player your team against a 5 player of either randoms or against another farm team would be awesome for missions and way more exciting
  • Solmar (US1)Solmar (US1) Posts: 72
    edited 17.04.2015
    There is something terribly wrong with the way competitors are matched up. Ever since I started I've always been matched with competitors 50-70 levels above me. This is totally not fair so I usually don't bother much with missions, doing only a few missions each day. Ever since I started I've been punished for having farms well developed far above the avg. other player my level - I should be rewarded for building, and upgrading more than others my level, but the way the missions are set up it punishes me for doing something that is good to be doing. I don't even get players at my own level to compete with - so it is harder for me to win a mission than someone whose at the same level and has achieved less with their farms.

    Add: This unfair competition happens to me even when the coop mission challenges are on, and when there are a lot of competitors available at my level...yet even then I still get unfairly matched. So it makes the coop challenge unfair for me too.
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