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Update - January 29th - Horse Ranch: Player versus Player competitions - Discussion

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  • anvesh.pathakanvesh.pathak Posts: 48
    edited 29.01.2015
    When will Indian server will be online?

    Now its up

    Edit by PINJO: merged posts, please use edit button
  • Pepelui (AU1)Pepelui (AU1) Posts: 52
    edited 29.01.2015
    here too :)
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    US is up too. Yay!

    -Y
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 29.01.2015
    Us server is up running now. :)
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    One thing I don't like... I think the 3 random people should clear every time you race. What I mean is...

    first three opponents had horses 11, 16, and 40 something. I picked the 40 something, and won...
    then my choices were the 11, the 16, and a new person, at 30 something. I'd rather have 3 new horses to choose from after each race. I don't want to pick on the lower leveled horses. I know they don't lose anything, but still.

    -Y

    edit> for people wondering where the boosters are, at the top of the tournament page where it shows your fuel, there is a little green +... clicking that takes you to the gas station.
  • snork (INT1)snork (INT1) Posts: 518
    edited 29.01.2015
    Re. the boosters, I was able to click the 24h one twice, it took the money, not sure it actually doubled or prolongued whatever that's meant to do, not sure if it's meant to be possible - and if so, can you spend 10.000.000 to boost your fuel for months ahead? Anybody want to try?

    Also the others horses STILL SHOW ONLY QUESTION MARKS as to their strengths, after all those months GGBF still can't implement that? Still competing against unknowns?! Not that it matters, level 14 with 20 percent likelihood to win still beat my level 30 horse with 80 percent likelihood to win now. Not sure why my useless green points/certificates are no use, need to reread the system re. challengers/challengees again.


    ETA: I won eight challenges of others but only have 4 green certificates as "won" - why?

    <strike>And why's a CLEAR VICTORY worth only 2 hooves but a simple VICTORY gives 3???</strike> I get that now, risk is worth more.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    You aren't supposed to know the opponents strength before the race. If you look at the details after the race you will see their stats.

    -Y

    PS> Briannospam, nice upset win against my horse!
  • PINJO1986 (NL1)PINJO1986 (NL1) NL1 Posts: 1,852
    edited 29.01.2015
    snork2 wrote: »
    Re. the boosters, I was able to click the 24h one twice, it took the money, not sure it actually doubled or prolongued whatever that's meant to do, not sure if it's meant to be possible - and if so, can you spend 10.000.000 to boost your fuel for months ahead? Anybody want to try?

    This booster (the small jerry can) will give you a +1 boost every hour for the time you have on the timer there. So if you bought multiple ones you get +1 fuel for the next 48 hours.
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 29.01.2015
    snork2 wrote: »
    ETA: I won eight challenges of others but only have 4 green certificates as "won" - why?

    And why's a CLEAR VICTORY worth only 2 hooves but a simple VICTORY gives 3???

    It means that your are wining 4 certificates per chalenge. So if you won 8 times, you should have 8x4=32 certificates.

    The number of horseshoes you are winning depends on a strenght of a horse you are competing with. So if you are commpeting with a low level horse (clear victory) you are getting les cerificates. Seems logical to me.

    Yakoska, thanks for the info on how to find a gas station. I was wondering where can I find the boosters.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 29.01.2015
    Even I was the winner in this competition where another player challenge me, I not like it, because the other horse was so much better than mine, that the challenger logicaly should have won a clear victory:
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    In my oppinion luck (or what you'll call it, first should could give victory against a better horse when the diffence between the horse are around 50/50 (or maybe 40/60)
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 29.01.2015
    1- prizes of bronze and silver leagues are almost jokes, i mean 50 dung? seriously guys? :|
    2- prizes of gold league are eh! but! the randomness of lose/win is almost a joke, i just challenged 12 horses, which all were lower lvl than mine and mine had higher chance of victory, but only won 3! that means i lost 9. in other words reaching gold league even seems impossible because i would gain +12 points and -18 points = total -6 points lol even if my horse be higher lvl than all the challengers.
    3-i see platnium league gives gold license, ok i wont complain about this prize, but lol if Gold league is impossible to reach with those odds ^ then how could one even reach platnium league with that rate anyway. if i was in platnium league right now, and would challenge 12 horses that were all lower lvl than mine, i would gain +12 points and -36 points = total -24 points lol.

    i will not judge too fast lol, maybe i am wrong and i just had MYSTERIOUSLY AWFUL luck let's say that yea, but if I happen to be right about this, then it makes almost no difference to train or not train a horse anyway if it so much depends only on luck of drop of a coin anyway no matter the difference in lvl.
  • Latten (DE1)Latten (DE1) Posts: 6,246
    edited 29.01.2015
    Apparently the limit of not being able to challenge other players while all horses are in training is not a bug. We'll change the announcement accordingly if necessary, as soon as we can absolutely confirm this.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    Even I was the winner in this competition where another player challenge me, I not like it, because the other horse was so much better than mine, that the challenger logicaly should have won a clear victory:
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    In my oppinion luck (or what you'll call it, first should could give victory against a better horse when the diffence between the horse are around 50/50 (or maybe 40/60)

    Not at all, Briannospam. As I said earlier, congratulations on the upset win! 20% is 20% (or 21%, whatever). 1 in 5, over time. Obviously in any random situation, you will have outliers, especially early on before the # of races become statistically viable. So if our horses (unchanged) raced 1000 times, I'd probably win 790 of them, but 210 wins in that situation is certainly meaningful, AND valid.

    And yes, I am giving away, for free, my own horse's stats, at least in that competition, but I do appreciate Brian's attempt to cover them up.

    -Y
  • Jan RokkjærJan Rokkjær Posts: 3
    edited 29.01.2015
    Both islands and the horse ranch smells of wanting more gold out of the pockets of all players :((
  • Ria_ ()Ria_ () Posts: 280
    edited 29.01.2015
    It seems racing means dressage and dressage means racing.
  • PCA (GB1)PCA (GB1) GB1 Posts: 839
    edited 29.01.2015

    3 possible opponents, and then.... click !! , this resembles more the slot machines than a competition

  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 29.01.2015
    Yes Yakoska, it was you who challenge me, and loose. :)

    Teoreticaly your statistic sounds logic and correct...
    - but I have just loose the 3'rd competion in a row against George, where George's chance to win "only" is around 24%, so I'm not sure about the displayed % chance to win or loose are correct.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    I can't tell you about that, but I can say I have won 3 in a row again George when my chance to win was 20% (or less)! I have also lost every race against those 3 for a whole day!

    -Y

    edit> Statistics is a fun thing... If your odds are winning, are 50/50... and you win a race... you might think "well the chances of winning two races in a row is 25%, so my chances of winning the next race are 25%!" but in truth, the chances of winning the next race is 50%.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 29.01.2015
    what Yakoska is saying "can" be true actually mathematically like i said in my comment too, if we call it MYSTERIOUSLY AWFUL luck. then it all adds up, so i guess we all just have to wait and judge based on a bigger number of challenges, or a bigger sample size basically. if out of 1000 challenges with 80% win chance, only win 200 (the reverse basically), then its more than just simple MYSTERIOUSLY AWFUL luck though and rather either intentional or accidental bad coding by developers, so we'll have to wait and see for now i think.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    I'm having 'good luck' in being challenged... I didn't add up every race, or check every statistic, but roughly I have an 80% chance to win each of those races... and I've only lost 1 in 10, or 90%.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 29.01.2015
    Yakoska wrote: »
    I'm having 'good luck' in being challenged... I didn't add up every race, or check every statistic, but roughly I have an 80% chance to win each of those races... and I've only lost 1 in 10, or 90%.

    with what % of win in each though, that matters too, not just number of challenges. if you are 90% winning with a weaker horse actually, then that also only adds to proof that the system might be messed up. i lost 75% against 12 horses in which i had 60%+ win chance in every single one, and 80%+ win chance in half of them. ofc it can be awful luck only, but even that doesn't seem very right. but 12 challenges is not a big enough sample to judge, so i'll just keep counting for now.
  • tracey40 (GB1)tracey40 (GB1) Posts: 113
    edited 29.01.2015
    Out if interest - if you are challenged are you made aware of the fact or do competitions take place in some secret space?
  • AngieGamer71 (US1)AngieGamer71 (US1) Posts: 117
    edited 29.01.2015
    The "rewards" for the league are disappointing, the only real value I have seen so far are the golden horseshoes for winning.. hopefully the prizes will be better during the next league.

    Some people spent 100 million dollars on the island farm (multiple times), and the diamond league reward is 2 gold certificates? Not worth it in my opinion.

    edit: I guess in the diamond league the "top board" is gold certs, and the board itself is locked.. hopefully some good prizes will show up. The prizes for the highest one that I could see still don't look like awesome rewards for pouring so much money into these islands. Will have to wait and see.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    Tracey, there is a noticeboard between the Competition Transporter and the Stable.. the middle tab shows you the results of your being challenged.

    Griffith, I looked at enough of them to gauge that I had about an 80% to win over all. It IS an estimation on my part, but fairly accurate. I haven't yet seen a report that gave me less than 50% to win.

    -Y

    edit> Tcape handed me my first negative % win chance on a challenge. Nice job!
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 29.01.2015
    tracey40 wrote: »
    Out if interest - if you are challenged are you made aware of the fact or do competitions take place in some secret space?

    Other than being able to set the horse you want to respond to any challenges in each discipline, I haven`t seen any advance notice of a challenge, just the list of mail saying the outcome....But looking at the huge list of challenges I have apparantly taken part in, I am kind of glad I didn`t get spammed with each one when it happened. 8|
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 29.01.2015
    The "rewards" for the league are disappointing, the only real value I have seen so far are the golden horseshoes for winning.. hopefully the prizes will be better during the next league.

    Some people spent 100 million dollars on the island farm (multiple times), and the diamond league reward is 2 gold certificates? Not worth it in my opinion.

    i agree with you that prizes are disappointing very much.
    but... you are very wrong to assume players who spent 100mil+ on island can win even platnium rather than even diamond based on the amount of fuel that is needed to even reach those leagues though.
    in other words, even if you spend 10000000mil dollars on island, diamond is still impossible for non-gold users cause even if they win "most of" challenges in the whole month, they may not make enough points since "fuel" is very limited.
    so I agree with your comment totally, but gold league is as far as free-users (regardless of how much dollar they spent on island) can probably even reach, based on the limit of fuel. and gold league prizes are not even 2 gold license, at best you win 400 gold for 100000000mil+ dollars(or limitless amount of dollars even).

    p.s. well in long term, when maybe free players can by luck make legendary lvl 100 horses, + if the luck system don't be so messed up as it seems right now, platnium "might" become possible for free players too. but diamond is still out of question. so normally, 400 gold is max free players can win atm (unless few exceptional players who already made very high lvl good quality horses) and in long term even max is 1 gold license + 400 gold only. (regardless of amount you spend on island actually, be it 100mil, 200mil, or 1000000mil even) diamond will still remain impossible without gold. (this is not a complaining btw i think gold users does need 1 better league too at least, but honestly even it seems unfair for those players too, 2 extra gold license only for ppl who have used lots of gold to even reach those leagues? their prize even seem unfair not just free users prizes)
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 29.01.2015
    the kick-off season has started ^^!
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 29.01.2015
    Well let me do the math out loud.

    You get 100 fuel to start, you 10 fuel an hour without spending a penny, the competition lasts approx one month (can we get an accurate count please, Mods? Since 1 month is not within the 6-12 weeks posted).

    Without an accurate count, lets use 30 days. That's 720 hours, call int 719 hours of useable refill, or 7190 fuel, on top of the 100 to start. So that 607 races (rounding down). So yeah, Gold level is it. With good luck, and a good horse. However it goes up to roughly 900 if its 6 weeks, and 1850 in a 12 week season (clearly this isn't one of those).

    You can also increase your fuel recovery rate by 719 for 48,000$ a day. And you can add 24 fuel a day (or another 720) for 72,000 a day. For a total of 719 races in 30 days. Or over 1000 in 6 weeks, or 2000 in 12 weeks.

    -Y
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 29.01.2015
    Some people spent 100 million dollars on the island farm (multiple times), and the diamond league reward is 2 gold certificates? Not worth it in my opinion.

    I have often seen it said how much is spent on the islands (yes I have spent millions myself) & how people are expecting some huge payback to come & assist their main farms, but don`t you think that all the decos that are won on the temp farms for both tasks & hard work are a good payback? Especially when you consider the decos you get with other events, like the bazillions that people would spend to get a single Telescope deco, which really involved zero fun or gameplay, just a click on a spend button.

    Don`t get me wrong, I am not saying I wouldn`t like to see a link back to our main farms at the end of this long event road, but I do think the rewards from the islands get overlooked sometimes..... I managed to buy some of those 135 happiness decos as well as winning the Viking ships & other random small ones and the ducks & donkeys, so my main farms did pretty well really.

    Loving the horse ranch so far, completely confused by it & most aspects of breeding, but I seem to be winning most challenges, so I did something right somewhere or I`m on a really good lucky streak lol
  • AngieGamer71 (US1)AngieGamer71 (US1) Posts: 117
    edited 29.01.2015
    I agree that those decos are worth something, I just thought the rewards for moving up in leagues would be more substantial.

    I think the reason people are expecting a huge payback is because the developers in fact said in time the horse ranch would provide some excellent main farm benefits, and other than those nice +135 decos and houses we have not seen them come to fruition.


    [Hi Angie, your other post has been moved to:
    http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/showthread.php?132139-bug-in-the-horse-competitions | Wabbit]
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