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Hopefully you're here because you've just read the upcoming update called 'Horse Ranch PvP', if not... Fear not! You can check out all the details here: Horse Ranch PvP Update
I understand that these patch notes are preeeetty long and will be quite tough to get through, but this is for the Horse Ranch that is available at level 16! We have now added the feature to compete with your horses against other players.
Please use this Discussion Thread to forward your feedback and any questions or suggestions that you have about the upcoming update
~CM Margo
thanks for always making changes to the game to keep us entertained.
Looks interesting. The ladder formation should help with some of the 'Missions matched me up with someone too high level'
As always, looking forward to it, but really can't decide how much I like it until its here
-Y
Maybe it's just better to see what is coming... i'm not so interested the whole horse ranch.
I know here is many threads and explanations about horses, but my English isn't so good, that could understand everything. And google translator is.......... :thumbdown: So i just train my horses when i remember and see what happens
Just that many of my co'op memebes would like to play more with horses and know more. But they don't speak English more than i do. So i have tried to be some kind of "translator"
~Space~
So when I lose as I inevitably will, I will be penalized:
This seems very unfair to me. I need more time to try to improve the quality of my horses before competing. Please give people the ability to opt out of this if they don't feel ready for this sort of competition.
If you don't compete to gain ranking points then you can't lose any in Bronze league.
Since we can't accept or decline a challenge, it's unfair the player who are beeing challenge being punished.
The correct fair way would be to punish the challenger, if he/she not win the competion.
- But ok, in the real world... If somebody knock you down on the street, you not eighter have a chance to avoid it , since you already are knocked down before you reconize the attacker.
What happen if a player ignore a challenge (or not is online for several days), will the challengers horse then be locked to that challenge rest of the season (or until the other player comes online and doing something like choose a horse or let the game random choose a horse)?
It's a pity that there will be penalty for loosing. Why? In the missions there is no penalty for taking last place so why should that be in horse competitions? If I get 0 points it's already not nice so why additionally take the points off if I loose?
I'm very curious how it all will look like, cannot wait to see that. Exciting!
I don't think challenges require that the challenged be online. It says you have to set what horse you want to be in each type of event. If you don't a horse of yours will be chosen at random.
-Y
"If you happen to lose against a player you challenged yourself, there is no penalty. If, however, another player challenges you and you lose, there is a small penalty for this defeat."
This should be the other way around.. if you challenge and lose the CHALLENGER should have a penalty. If someone challenges you, they are confident to win, therefore the one being challenged should not have a penalty.
The second reason why this makes no sense is it will end up like the missions.. I have players that are no where near my ranking in missions (i.e. I am 220, I get the second highest ranked person), but the game says they "match players based on ranking", a lot of the time this is not true. So someone who has a level 95 horse to my 60 "being in the same rank" according to GGS, I do not believe this is valid.
-Y
Exactly my thoughts!! THX Pingo!
great to have something different to do. but honestly, you go in once ever four hours and your done. hopefully this update will change that. but no real rewards that are permanent additions to existing farms.
Penalty for losing is NOT ok, in ANY league, class, group, or call it what you like. The game designers are slow learners, did we not already have a rewrite of missions to get rid of the Penalty of loss of reputation points for losing?
The incentive to go above the bronze league will be in part lost because of the current design version.
But it will be interesting to see how many players are in the same range like me (or better), because many players have told they don't understand how horse breeding works, and they will not work more with the horses.
- especiality on the skn server, this will be interesting to see because there are lot more players on the us server than on the skn server.
Hey Filipeczek,
you can be challenged while offline or even while your horse is in a training session.
The penalty for losing such a challenge initiated by another player is needed so we keep the divisions, leagues and rankings up to date and challenging. Else you could just work your way up to a high league early on, grab all class rewards on the way and then just wait till the season ends so you can get the league reward for the highest league you ever reached.
We want you to put some effort into staying in the leagues you moved up into, that’s where that penalty comes into play and it will have a similar effect to the 10% reputation points we deduct from all of your accounts each week to keep the mission rankings active and challenging.
With all of that said, you really have to keep in mind that you don’t lose anything in Bronze league and even in Silver league, the penalty is relatively small compared to the amount of ranking points you will earn for each victory.
Hey AngieGamer,
while making the mechanic work the other way around would have been an option, we decided against it for a specific reason: we want you to be active and to go out there and take your chance at challenging as many players as possible during each season instead of being passive and just sitting there, waiting for another player to challenge you.
As I already said, the penalties, especially in lower leagues, are not something you need to be afraid of. If you win every once in a while, you will be able to make up for your losses easily.
Hello ritacba,
there are several rewards you can use on your main farms. If you take the class rewards, for instance, there are lots of special consumables and other surprises to grab.
Regards,
Steffi
What use will it be for a non-gold player to achieve much here? Lower levels will be farmed by higher levels and even more people will leave due to demoralisation... Seriously BF ?! Not happy.
I like the game and will play on as long as my coop members stay with me, but I can't bother with the islands and ranch anymore.
Just my personal opinion though.
That's an absolutely valid opinion. Thing is, if you don't want to bother with the whole temp farm/ship/horse cycle, you absolutely don't have to - you will lose absolutely nothing
In addition to what Timo said:
You cannot choose your opponent (apart from the choice of 1 out of 3) in order to only select players with weak horses.
The matchmaking system will balance it out as soon as players make slight progress and move up to another class or league, so lower levels don't have to fear anything at all.
- in Space cats's yes, it seems that you're right.
But in my yes, Space cat lost the challenge there is in breeding horses (and get the rewards for it, e.g. one of the rewards are a gold mine license).
If else enough players have breeded and trained up some good horses, I think these horse challenges can go to be fun and interesting... and then Space cat also loose that fun...
But of course you're right, it up to everyone themself about they want to do that circle or not.
Hell I'm so confused and now there is another update tomorrow and don't even now if my horse are ready for it. Also I'm stuck on the side task (Have 1 horse with breeding quality Level 1). I don't know if I should do it now or after the update.
I have 3 horse a stable on Level 3 and I can upgrade it to Level 4. I don't know if I have good horses or not or which horses to breed together to get a good horse or what level they should be on to breed them. the more I'v read about it the more confused I am. Could you please help me and tell me if I'm on the right track or do I need more training or must I breed before or after the update.
This is what I have -
Horse 1 - breeding value 29 - breeding effects +4 elegance
Horse 2 - breeding value 20 - breeding effects 0
Horse 3 - breeding value 14 - breeding effects 0
Breeding Horse 1 and 2 will give me a new horse with a breeding value of 24
Training Points 25 in Strength - Training Points 26 in Agility - Training Points 22 in Endurance
Strength -93% - Agility -95% - Endurance 95%
? +1 Random Breeding Effect
Sorry i did post this on another thread but i cant find it
Many Thanks
leadertracy