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  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 18.01.2015
    kbahr0072 wrote: »
    For everyone reading this and using gold during missions. Are you so hard up that you have to BUY the missions? There are ways to play fairly and buying your way into a win is not only unfair but the lowest anyone can sink to. Yes it is allowed but that does not mean it is right. I know players defend it but still, that does not mean it is right. The only exceptions i see is if the players come right out and message the other players letting them know what they will do during play or doing it during solo missions. I know a lot of people are going to have a field day and tell me it is withing the rules, but that does not mean it is right.

    A comparison, how would you like it if your favorite base ball team lost the world series because another team used money to buy the win?

    That is not a comparison at all, because there is no way that is allowed within the rules of baseball.
    Your post is a bit of a contradiction, since you say using gold is allowed during missions, then it is neither "unfair" nor "the lowest anyone can sink to", so basically you just don`t like it, which is not the same thing.

    As has been said on the many, many, many, many, threads on this same topic, using gold boosts the score in a mission, everyone in the mission benefits from a high scoring game, whether they come 1st or not, of course its nice to come 1st at anything, but personally if I just get an opponent in a mission, I am happy, I don`t care if they use every known booster & a truckload of gold, I still know I am going to get more RP & certs than I would by coming 1st in a solo mission.
     
  • Adrienne_chilisAdrienne_chilis Posts: 141
    edited 18.01.2015
    I agree with Scissors. I believe right now is the least lowest, least selfish and least unfair time to use gold during missions, because it is benefiting their co-op.

    And, who says no one "buys a team win in baseball"? Ever here of politics? Sad but true.
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  • kbahr007 (US1)kbahr007 (US1) US1 Posts: 1,841
    edited 18.01.2015
    Regardless of anyone elses position on gold use, let me be very clear, so it is concise and precise, GOLD USE IS UNFAIR TO OTHER PLAYERS AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED, the3 comparison is the same as i said, where in the rulesa of any game excepot for big farm are the players allowed to buy the win. There is not. I could buy the win in missions,. and as i said why is it people need to sink to the depths of buying their way to a win. You may as well just tell the other players not to even play the game because you will do whater it takes to win. Like this post or not I DO NOT CARE.

    Yes there are other posts like this but maybe if which i doubt will ever happen because GGS profits off of gold use, they will stop allowing this practice if there is enough feedback. So everyone that is making similar posts, keep them coming.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 18.01.2015
    kbahr0072, whould you feel it's fair to use seaweed in mission?
    - I have some seaweed I have get as gift or rewards.

    Before you answer, remember it's also possible to buy seaweed for gold.

    And what about handbooks?
    I have a few handbooks.
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  • edited 18.01.2015
    personally it doesnt bother me if people use gold in missions its their money to waste and i do see it as wasting money, i can think of better things to spend it on, on a personal note i dont do that many missions unless i have stuff ready that is required, most of the time i just sit out of them and do stuff on the farm, if i have fields full of stuff thats had houmus used on it like corn then i might leave it there till a suitable mission starts,other than that i dont bother,
  • Gwendolen (US1)Gwendolen (US1) Posts: 1,268
    edited 18.01.2015
    kbahr0072 wrote: »
    let me be very clear, so it is concise and precise, GOLD USE IS UNFAIR TO OTHER PLAYERS AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED,

    Let's put this in perspective: Yóu think it's unfair. It is within the rules, so it is not unfair.


    I will sometimes mutter: "Stupid golders!" as well while playing missions. I might even stick out my tongue to the screen. If I keep ending up with the same golder, I will wait a few mins before requesting a new mission.

    The gold players make the game free for the non-golders. So when I get really miffed about losing to golders a couple of times in a row, I just remind myself of that.
    And very rarely, I might gold up a field of special flowers just before the mission ends, if I just don't feel like doing regulars.
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  • GuestCmiller32 (US1)GuestCmiller32 (US1) US1 Posts: 79
    edited 19.01.2015
    You know your complaining bout people using gold in missions sometimes I use a little just so I can get a number on the board, I mean really after 3 egg missions in a row WHO has a chance, and it happens quiet often. We need a better system
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  • Xylophia (INT1)Xylophia (INT1) Posts: 50
    edited 22.01.2015
    I have to jump in here.

    Yes I also get frustrated with the use of gold, but mostly because I am not in a position to be able to buy gold to use gold.

    We all just have to remember that GGS works on a free to play basis, and in order to keep it that way their games include things like buying gold. So for us, who never or rarely buy gold and only use those we earn, we are the "bad people".

    I have to struggle through most events and pray to finish upgrades. Many deco and specialist buildings are probably never going to be seen on my farm, but considering I get to play this game for free, who am I an people like me to complain.

    Would I love it if there was a way to equalize the score, yes, but for now there is nothing I can do.

    A "good way" to gain gold is to be off-line for +-2weeks, the GGS gives you 300+gold to get you active again, but you may be kicked from your coop by then.

    There is no winning so no use sulking.

    I'd rather play BF free with frustration than having to pay a monthly subscribtion.
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  • rhinanarhinana Posts: 561
    edited 22.01.2015
    I'd rather get whooped by a dozen golders a day than have my game interrupted by annoying ads or have my computer be at risk by spyware/malware. Golders make this game free and I am grateful for it.
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  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 23.01.2015
    If your upset that gold use is allowed in missions then respectfully state so, but it is another thing to go and make belittling opinions that is directed at players who do use gold. Not only is it disrespectful but completely inappropriate. I am a gold buyer and tired of being put down, belittled, and insulted for it.
    Enough already!! It's rude and uncalled for
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  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 23.01.2015
    kbahr0072 wrote: »
    A comparison, how would you like it if your favorite base ball team lost the world series because another team used money to buy the win?
    That is not a comparison at all, because there is no way that is allowed within the rules of baseball.

    *cough*Yankees*cough*

    -Y
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  • andy123321 (INT1)andy123321 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 117
    edited 23.01.2015
    Unfortunately 'Money makes the world go around'.
    Even if you live in an under-developed Kibutz, the farmer who has bought warm
    boots will always beat the farmer who only can afford rags on his feet.
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  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    kbahr0072, whould you feel it's fair to use seaweed in mission?
    - I have some seaweed I have get as gift or rewards.

    Before you answer, remember it's also possible to buy seaweed for gold.

    And what about handbooks?
    I have a few handbooks.
    Using seaweed in mission is fair as long as you earn it by playing the game, instead of buying it. .Since every player gets
    equal chance of earning the seaweed, so it's fair to use it any way they want. Then, how one use the seaweeds is entirely
    up to that person.

    Same applies to the handbooks, as long as it's bought from the gold earned during the game, instead of buying it.

    I'm just sharing my opinions, you may agree or disagree with me.
    You're joking, right?  How do you determine, if the seaweed feed you are about to use in a mission, is one you purchased for gold or one that was one in an event?  Oh, there's no way to know, so what you really want is for no one to be able to buy seaweed products.

    The same applies to handbooks.  How do you know the gold you are about to spend is gold you earned in game vs gold you purchased through an offer?  Oh, I know, no one is allowed to buy gold.  BigFarm would soon disappear.




  • edited 12.08.2016
    @DuffyPoo222 (INT1) NO I'm NOT joking. You just didn't understand what I was saying..

    I was just giving a general opinion that IF you are the kind of a player who "just wins the seaweed" instead of buying it using gold, then I consider that a fair thing. . I was just talking about the players who "never buy gold", I wasn't talking about those who win as well as buy gold.

    Same applies to the books..

    And no I'm not asking anyone to stop using gold, it's totally your choice. I was just giving my "opinions" about what I consider as fair play.. You understand what I mean by "opinions" right? I'm not "forcing" anyone to stop using gold..

    I hope you know what I'm saying now...
  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    I knew what you were saying before.  

    It is all fair, whether someone likes it or not.  Buying seaweed products and using them is a fair part of the game.  That's all there is to it.


  • edited 12.08.2016
    @DuffyPoo222 (INT1) That's what I was saying, that you can agree or disagree. I was just giving my opinion.. You are free to disagree with me, and I'm free to disagree with you..

    @RunsWivScissors (GB1) Yes, I agree with you that one can do really well in this game without any gold. I am one of those players who have been doing extremely well, without ever using the gold because I'm an extremely smart player, and I'm also one of those players who consider this game as "much better" WITHOUT using any gold.
    That's exactly what my point was. . .that this game is much "easier" for those who play with gold, and it's more challenging and enjoyable without gold. If you read my earlier posts, you'll see my point..

    And you are right, that it's slower to play without any gold, but then what's the point of the game if you use the "short-cut" gold strategy instead of playing it using skills and smart strategies?? Then it's not about who is a good player, it becomes a matter of "who's using gold the most"...

    And I do love this game, despite of the flaws, but I don't think that they're doing any favors to those who don't pay. It was their idea to launch a game where people can play without paying, we didn't ask them to do that for us. And they need large number of players to play this game in order to be a popular online game. Just a small number of "gold users" only will make them much less popular.

    I obviously like playing this game, otherwise I wouldn't even bother talking about it, but I was just expressing my opinions on the gold usage by other players..That's all.

    I like playing this game because it's a "smart strategies" based game. I don't see any point in using gold, because that makes it "too easy", boring and pointless.

    I know it's relatively slow to play without gold, but what's the point in just "spending money and racing", without using any skills at all?? Some people might enjoy the "racing, using money" part, but I don't. It's the challenges of playing the game without gold, which I find enjoyable..

    I know that there are disadvantages of not using gold, like not winning high level prizes during CC, etc., but I'm okay with not being bothered too much about those. I still enjoy plenty of other things in the game..

    The summary is that playing with gold is easy, and easy is boring. It's only interesting as long as it's challenging, that's why I play it without gold, and happy playing it this way only..


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  • @Ruchi Sharma, I have read all you posts and although you start with: quote:  "I don't mind that some players want to spend gold in this game, it's their money and their choice, and they have the right to do so (as per the game rules)"  the rest of all your posts is about how much you do mind that players use gold. 
    You hate gold players "bragging that they are so much better", which may be the case on your server; I haven't experienced anything of that on my server or in my coop or in the ccs. You really don't mind bragging about yourself playing this game. Quote: "I am one of those players who have been doing extremely well, without ever using the gold because I'm an extremely smart player, and I'm also one of those players who consider this game as "much better" WITHOUT using any gold. 
    And with that last sentence putting down  gold players, as if they are not smart or not strategic. 

    That you have a problem with gold, that's fine, just accept that there are others who don't have a problem with that. 

    Name one (similar) online game that is completely free of charge and doesn't have the option to buy gold, diamonds, materials or other stuff that will help you advance or beat another player in battles or whatever. 
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  • edited 12.08.2016
    @grace1970 (NL1)

    Yes, I don't mind them "using the gold", but I still think that the game is "unfair". You should read my whole statement. I wasn't complaining against the players, but against the "unfair system" of the game, which gives unfair advantages to "gold users"..

    Yes, I said I don't mind them "using the gold", but I DO MIND them BOTHERING me with their "bragging comments". They're free to brag, but I do mind them "bothering ME". I was speaking about those people who do bother me, not everyone. See my point??

    My statement Quote: "I am one of those players who have been doing extremely well, without ever using the gold because I'm an extremely smart player, and I'm also one of those players who consider this game as "much better" WITHOUT using any gold.
    was in reply to the above comment, I was talking to the person above me. I wasn't bragging. You should try to read everything more carefully before jumping to conclusions. . .Your statement  "You really don't mind bragging about yourself playing this game." doesn't make any sense here.  I'm just stating a FACT about myself, not bragging. Don't draw "wrong" conclusions.

    And I'm not putting down gold players. .again I'm just expressing my "opinions" about them since this particular thread was started with that particular topic. I am free to express my opinions here, as much as you are. I was just contributing my own share of opinions. You are free to disagree, I'm not really concerned about your opinions.

    I don't like that other players play with gold, because it makes the game unfair in my eyes. But I obviously accept that other players do. I'm not asking anyone to stop using gold, am I?? Just expressing my opinions about that. Again if you read my earlier statements, you'll see my point.

    And I don't play that many online games to tell you the names, I'm a relatively busy person. But I know a lot of games have the option to buy gold, diamonds etc., and yes it's a relatively free game, but it's still unfair. I'm not comparing this particular game to others, I was just expressing my opinions about this one. 

    If you don't agree with me, it's totally your choice. I didn't ask anyone to agree with me, just expressing myself here..





  • edited 12.08.2016
    I accept that all players have the "right" to use the gold, as per the rules of the game, but it doesn't mean that I agree with the "gold system". Yes, I don't mind them using the gold, but yes I do mind the whole "gold system".

    And it's just me expressing my opinions, since this thread was related to this topic. . .but it doesn't mean I'm asking anyone to stop using the gold. You're obviously free to play any way you wish..
  • @Ruchi Sharma 86
    Trust me I have read your posts and your comments to other players in this specific topic and I don't see reason to change my opinion about them. And I just quoted you and wasn't jumping to any conclusions, regardless in what respect you mentioned that you are extremely good at this game, etc.  
    But having that said, you are absolutely right that you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. 
    We both also have the right to express this opinion, and to not agree with one another.
    Let's agree to disagree because this is leading nowhere. 
    grace1970 @ nl 1
  • Trust me, that's okay with me, I don't care about your opinions or what you think of me. I know I'm right, and I'm not concerned about others' opinions. And I see that my confidence and my good opinions of myself are bothering you, but it's your problem, not mine. I really don't care..

    And yes, lets agree to disagree, it is not leading anywhere.
  • CathyD (INT1)CathyD (INT1) INT1 Posts: 958
    I see this thread is going nowhere, but will post this anyway.

    Without gold buyers/players there would be no game for the "free-to-play" players.  I've played lots of "free-to-play" games and they all have a premium currency of some sort.  So, if there wasn't a "whole gold system" you would have no game.


  • Trust me, that's okay with me, I don't care about your opinions or what you think of me. I know I'm right, and I'm not concerned about others' opinions. And I see that my confidence and my good opinions of myself are bothering you, but it's your problem, not mine. I really don't care..

    And yes, lets agree to disagree, it is not leading anywhere.
    Talking about jumping to conclusions... 
    Enjoy playing this game the way you like it and respect that others play it their way. But even more important treat and speak to other people like you want to be treated and spoken to. 
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  • Pepper Moon (IN1)Pepper Moon (IN1) Posts: 6,684
    edited 12.08.2016
    Trust me, that's okay with me, I don't care about your opinions or what you think of me. I know I'm right, and I'm not concerned about others' opinions. And I see that my confidence and my good opinions of myself are bothering you, but it's your problem, not mine. I really don't care..

    And yes, lets agree to disagree, it is not leading anywhere.
    First of all, you can play the game, with or without gold. The choice is yours. However, if you decide to play without gold, you do not get any significant disadvantage. Yes, things may take a bit longer than normally
    but from my experience - and I am a gold player too - the usage of gold does not make up for the lack of strategy and tactical planning. You can beat a gold player, if you use the right tactics and plan your actions carefully in a mission. It is more difficult, than beating a normal player, but it can be done. Besides, that the amount of gold used usually limits itself. 

    I know that many people oppose the use of gold and feel it unfair. Still that should not stop you from using it. It is a main part of the game and we all know, there is no such thing as a free game. If you download an app in the app store, you either pay for it or it is free, but to get any further, you need to spend money or have to wait. It is pretty much the same. The Developers do have costs to run the game. Be it for server or staff, licences, etc. Those need to be covered. They must be paid for their hard work, making new features, designing and planning.

    You will probably find a lot of people here, that will tell you using gold is bad, but you will also find a lot of players - non gold users - who see it as a challange. Others than again use gold themselves. I think it is also a matter of time. Speeding up a production or raise moral, because you don't have time to be online all day, that is what most people spend their gold on. 

    So I recommend you relax and enjoy the game. :)  As I said, you will find that there are players who enjoy the challenge to play against a gold player or maybe you find some players, who use gold also. Gold means nothing against strategy, its not 'unfair' 

    For me, Coming at first in a mission is always a thrill, but points are points, we gets points for our participation. :) I certainly do not care about the rank in a mission, I am making points for my team :)
  • edited 12.08.2016
    Trust me, that's okay with me, I don't care about your opinions or what you think of me. I know I'm right, and I'm not concerned about others' opinions. And I see that my confidence and my good opinions of myself are bothering you, but it's your problem, not mine. I really don't care..

    And yes, lets agree to disagree, it is not leading anywhere.
    Talking about jumping to conclusions... 
    Enjoy playing this game the way you like it and respect that others play it their way. But even more important treat and speak to other people like you want to be treated and spoken to. 
    "And I see that my confidence and my good opinions of myself are bothering you".

    I said this because you brought the topic of me saying that "I'm good at this game", in whatever context. I'm not the one jumping to conclusions here.

    @Ruchi Sharma 86
    Trust me I have read your posts and your comments to other players in this specific topic and I don't see reason to change my opinion about them. And I just quoted you and wasn't jumping to any conclusions, *regardless in what respect you mentioned that you are extremely good at this game, etc.* 
    But having that said, you are absolutely right that you are entitled to your own opinion and so am I. 
    We both also have the right to express this opinion, and to not agree with one another.
    Let's agree to disagree because this is leading nowhere. 
    And I didn't say anything wrong about anyone, I don't know why you're getting so angry. I'm just sharing my opinions. If you can't handle my opinions, you are free to ignore them. You started commenting on me, and I was replying to your comments. That's all..

    And as for speaking, "Treat others the way you want to be treated" applies on you. I'm not the one who's wrong here.. I'm just replying to your comments.

    And it's better that you stop commenting on me and end this conversation here. I'm certainly not interested in arguing with you.


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  • @Prince Manish 3 (IN1)

    I know very well that you can play this game with or without gold. I'm a high level player and I reached here without using any gold. And I have already beaten many gold users. So I'm obviously aware of that. I'm an extremely smart player who plays with strategies, I don't need anyone's help or suggestions.

    As for those who play with gold, yes, you are free to play any way you wish. It's your money, your choice. I was just expressing my opinions about the "gold system". That's all.

    I play this game without gold because I find it more challenging that way. Others are free to play any way they wish, with or without gold.
    Yes time management can be a problem for some people, but it isn't so much for me. I easily manage the time in my busy schedule..

    Your recommendations aren't needed, because I'm already relaxed and already enjoying this game. I just noticed this thread and thought of expressing myself, and too many people got provoked. So I think it's you people who need to "relax" and realize that it's just my opinions. You can play this game any way you want...

    I play this game with my smart strategies and I enjoy it that way, and I said earlier that I have already beaten many gold players with my strategies. But that wasn't my point to begin with.

    As for "fair or unfair", you have your opinions and I have mine. I see that many people disagree with me, and it's okay with me. I disagree with them too. So you can play it your way, and I can play it my way..

    Relax, and enjoy..


  • Pepper Moon (IN1)Pepper Moon (IN1) Posts: 6,684
    edited 12.08.2016
    The debate about gold is a long one that might go off-topic. So before this threads spirals out of control as other have done with name calling and threats, lets keep this civil. Be cool and use the time to give something insightful and not emotionally charged. We love to play this game just as much as everyone else. However, gold doesn't buy you experience, skill, expertise or victory. If I hand someone that hasn't played big farm before, a stack of gold, and I myself play without spending a penny, there's a good chance I'd still beat him, over the simple fact he does not have insight on various tactics and strategies, but I do.
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