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Criticism: you GOOSE

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  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 19.01.2015
    I must admit I completely agree with all the above..... Doesn't seem fair after all the hard work some of us have put into this Cooperative Challenge, that others can just buy their reputation points! Not a very elegant move GGS! :thumbdown:
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 19.01.2015
    I enjoyed the co-op event, working our way to the prizes, mission after mission. But now, it seems there is no point in even bothering. I'll just buy it....not! Another feature of this game ruined, not much of a surprise after all that has been going on the last few months.
  • elunia13 (GB1)elunia13 (GB1) Posts: 162
    edited 19.01.2015
    That is a very crass and crude way of tempting people to buy gold, GGS, really beneath any contempt...
  • sjw (US1)sjw (US1) Posts: 13
    edited 19.01.2015
    I personally spent 3 of my vacation days at a hotel playing missions to be part of my coop. We at Brat Pack work hard and work together. We won our trophy before you put it up for sale and now ours is like all the others, worthless. We enjoyed the competition of the other coops and people we like and respect.
    Unless this farce is changed, I will never be part of a challenge again.

    What must be done to regain the desire of the people to continue to play is to roll the points back to where we EARNED them and refund the money paid for those sold. I can guarantee you that you will lose much less money if you do that then you will if you don't. No one trusts you now. You can change that to just a stupid mistake that you repaired. It's up to you.

    If you've noticed (and I'm sure you have) absolutely everyone on this thread is disgusted. Not one "for".
  • White _Doves (US1)White _Doves (US1) Posts: 1,200
    edited 19.01.2015
    Good going ggs BF... NOT.
    You've ruined this co-op challenge and hope you NEVER repeat this hotdeal (NOT). You have made the work of hard working teams that had finished and recieved their trophy prior to this offer meaningless.

    So sad, like you have done selling XP in Empire, it isn't right.

    What a disgrace.....
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    edited 19.01.2015
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    Yep, pretty sure you guys need a rep-boost to.
  • Annieplayer16Annieplayer16 Posts: 9
    edited 19.01.2015
    I was really enjoying the co-op challenge, trying to find time to do as many missions as possible, even buying a little gold and using it to speed occasionally to win, which I know some think is cheating. I was really proud of my co-op for all their hard work, and pleased with my ranking within the co-op. This morning I logged on and got the 100% deal and bought some gold and got 250K Rep Points! and guess what, I just did my last mission, cos what is the point of the co-op challenge if people can just buy points. I'm dropping out of the challenge now, as with players buying points there is absolutely no point at all in working hard as a team.
  • Shaester2Shaester2 Posts: 4
    edited 19.01.2015
    Are we going to get a reply from GGS regarding the Buying Reputation Fiasco sometime soon?
  • GennieS (US1)GennieS (US1) US1 Posts: 10
    edited 19.01.2015
    What a shame. You have now transformed one the most looked-forward, team-building, fun event in this game into a totally worthless thing. Great job!
  • Annieplayer16Annieplayer16 Posts: 9
    edited 19.01.2015
    Penfold had a great suggestion, Roll back and reset the game to before the ability to purchase reputation points. I would happily lose my 'fake' reputation points to have the fun, the competition and the team work brought back into the game!! Do it GG and do it fast!! People will still use the gold they bought to speed in missions to win, so GG won't lose the money they are making on this!
  • Wesco2Wesco2 Posts: 19
    edited 19.01.2015
    This was a game I would have left my children or grandchildren play.

    Alas,no.longer.

    I would not want them to be taught that hard work,skill,planning,perseverance,and team work count for nothing in this world,not even in a frivolous on-line game.

    Get to the top by any means possible and who cares about the suckers who play by the rules? Is that really the attitude you want your games to foster?
  • 4junebug (US1)4junebug (US1) Posts: 9
    edited 19.01.2015
    sdfktgk wrote: »
    GGS.... why bother having a competition if you can just BUY the dumb win? There's literally no point to this other than YOUR GREED to what is going on right now. 24 hour hot deal and you get 250,000 exp for buying `15k gold? Are you serious with this?

    You've just taken ALL the competition out of a competition. It's pathetic.



    So well said, GGS you have crossed the line with a bought competition. Shame on you. Everyone who won a trophy deserves a apple or cherry orchard, There are no true winners now. Used to recommend this game, no more. You have become to greedy with profit at the expense of ethics.

    "The corporation cannot be ethical, its only responsibility is to make a profit."

    Jim Hightower

    "Commerce is the school of cheating" Vauvenaues

    GGS a new low you have achieved. No more competitions. Regroup People!!!
  • MayaPlayer17 (US1)MayaPlayer17 (US1) Posts: 11
    edited 19.01.2015
    GGS WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS????? You were getting money from Naughty and Nice--Boosters---And Co-op Golddeal.. NOT ENOUGH !!! You just ruined a fun Event...Our co-op was having a BLAST....TILL .. you brought in your WONDERFUL HOT DEAL NOT....Now no one really wants to finish..We have a wonderful co-op and I want to THANK ALL in our co-op Farmers First for the first few days.. You Guys are Fantastic.. What GREAT GROUP ..SORRY GGS ruined it for you :-((
  • sdfktgksdfktgk Posts: 140
    edited 19.01.2015
    I think the point of all of this, is that it cheapened and destroyed what otherwise was a good competition. It's literally pointless now because nobody has any way of knowing what is fought for, and what is bought through ANY co-op.

    My co-op had won the trophy fair and square ( within the rules of whatever nonsense you set out for us) before this deal even hit. You know what? Out of solidarity to those that got blasted by the greed within this company, I won't be setting the trophy out. It's a slap in the face to everybody.

    Talk about boosters, gold pushes and methods of play all you want. NONE of it is a straight out "pay to win" formula. It's literally an entire method of game-play changed midstream and it's reminiscent of how you treated the other servers when you wanted to experiment with hos they purchase and hold things. There was NEVER even one apology for that. Bluntly, you do NOT care and feel entitled to do this to people as you see fit.

    A reset at this point would throw things in the air as it is a pretend way of not putting value to hard work and planning. Seeing it through is pointless as we all know the prizes awarded on all levels are without valor.

    You make disasterous changes without regard to your paying playership and never have to feel you are sorry for doing so. It's like you're above the laws that govern gaming in general. Let me tell you something, you are not. The cavalier "to heck with them, we'll do as we please to drive profits" attitude has to stop. Haven't you lost enough paying members to even care or notice? Are you that blind? Go ahead. Keep being blind. When you finally look up, you'll wonder why we've put you out on the streets because it's US who contyrol you, not the other way around. You don't think so? How would you like it if we put a 90 day ban on ANY buying game currency. Your bosses would laugh and carry on, but you'd be in the bread lines. Keep pushing it, we'll push back.

    at least apologize for ruining a competition and wasting our time, that would be a start. I won't hold my breath for it, though. You folks simply never do that.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 19.01.2015
    Here's an alternate point of view... Though it took me awhile to stew about it, because my first reaction was... WTF?

    Part One: The Negative effects the Rep Hot Deal
    You can buy gold to use, and 'earn' 1,750,000 rep as a bonus max. In my Co-op that would be good for 4th place (for now). And if *I* did it, adding it to my 1,450,000 'earned' rep (5th currently) I could jump to 3rd, and the Co-op would get the next prize, and be inches sort of the following one.

    There's not a player in our top group of earners that hasn't used gold for the challenge in missions/libraries, what have you. So in terms of internal rankings... the effect is there, but negligible. The internal rewards are, at best, token anyway. 3 Seaweed humus? I like it, but its not going to make me competitive just for that.

    So lets look at the effect on the Co-op v Co-op aspect. My Co-op is ranked 7th in the US, and we're probably going to to get the Trophy sometime tonight. So 1.75 mil compared to 31 mil. So individually people could spend $100 real dollars for a 5-6% increase in the Co-ops total Rep (More like 2-3% by the time the event is over). And sure some people will, but its hardly game breaking. And seriously, how many of the Co-Ops in the race for top 10, haven't had 3 or 4 Co-op boosters running for part of the event?

    It still turns my stomach a little, but after I looked at the numbers I realized its not as horrible as I first thought.

    Now lets look at one possible 'positive' effects:
    A player has real life issues, that the Co-op understands, and can't contribute time, but they are getting all these rewards for free. They could bow out of the Co-op for the duration of the challenge, or... they could buy some gold, and help their co-op maybe get a reward they wouldn't have reached otherwise (for non-competitive co-ops) and feel like a part of the team. Especially in conjunction with the Co-op gets 50%/100% of the gold you buy offers.
    This deal gives them a chance to help out, even though they can't put in the time they'd like.

    I'm not saying I like it. I'm saying the hew and cry over seems a bit over the top. To iterate my point, all this Hot Deal is really doing (Other than putting $ in GGS's pocket) is putting a spotlight on the fact that you can't compete without gold, its not the cause.

    -Y
  • sdfktgksdfktgk Posts: 140
    edited 19.01.2015
    Yakoska..... that all sounds wonderful. For one player.

    What about when 3,4 even 5 people do that. It's a game changer and blows others out of the water. Quite literally, position 13's have gone to position 5's overnight because of this. That's positive to you??? It's SO much more about the trophy. It's about the hard work and planning, teamwork and playership that has been poured over all being counted for nothing here.

    1 person makes a ripple. Many make a wave. That's the point.

    Let's put this into a different perspective. ......

    You study hard. You pour over information, pay attention and take notes. Test day comes and you get a 100. The guy sitting next to you shows up after being there for perhaps half the classes. He slips the teacher a few dollars and gets a 95. This is fair to you, your work and dedication? All the hours? Now let's bring it to full reality. Half the stupid class hands the teacher some money and mysteriously 25 other people all get amazing grdes. How smart do you feel for putting in the work now? Is it fair? One person? Not huge difference. Half the class? Yeah, it's a huge deal worth the hew and cry. Unfair is unfair any way you look at it.
  • steppie3steppie3 Posts: 3
    edited 19.01.2015
    Ok what is up with everyone

    ITS A GAME

    You buy gold if you want to, no one twists your arm
    You can play this GAME without buying gold
    Your co-op will be quite happy with you doing missions and helping out on projects, also being involved with everyone else in the co-op

    HAPPY PLAYING

    Hoofhearted on EN1
  • KupkKupk Posts: 17
    edited 19.01.2015
    Beaver2 wrote: »
    Horrible that GGS would allow rep points to be purchased when everyone has been working so hard to EARN their points. If they wanted to help other co-ops who don't have a chance to get all the prizes, I can understand that but this is NOT the way to do it. GGS loves "formulas", they should have a "tier" to this event just like they do for the camping/fairytale/alien events, which give smaller co-ops (or less involved co-ops) a chance at prizes on a smaller scale. For example, the "trophy" for the "low tier" would only be worth 30 deco points, "medium" 40 deco points, "hard" 50 deco points, "expert" 60 deco points or some variation of that.

    I couldn't agree more! I liked all the changes to the format. The boosters helped more players to win a trophy. When you looked at other farms they were few and far between. Had they just given us a co-op gold bonus buy like the first day, that would have been fine. But this?

    This isn't about just the challenge anymore for regular mission players. The reputation points players worked so hard to earn are now tainted in the permanent standings. Do we add a * next to their names just like in baseball stats? Yes they broke that record but they cheated? This put the overall top mission players in a very bad position. I know I watched where I was in the mission standings, you saw it every day. Now I've dropped at least 10 spots at this point. Good job GGS. I have lost my desire to play.
  • Fawners (US1)Fawners (US1) US1 Posts: 436
    edited 19.01.2015
    REALLY steppie3 you have to have say "What is up with everyone"? Why bother with a co-op challenge and work your a$$ off to get the prize when you can just buy it!! You obviously just do not get it!
  • Trippel (NL1)Trippel (NL1) Posts: 299
    edited 19.01.2015
    Yakoska wrote: »
    And if *I* did it, adding it to my 1,450,000 'earned' rep (5th currently) I could jump to 3rd, and the Co-op would get the next prize, and be inches sort of the following one.

    My Co-op is ranked 7th in the US, and we're probably going to to get the Trophy sometime tonight. So 1.75 mil compared to 31 mil. So individually people could spend $100 real dollars for a 5-6% increase in the Co-ops total Rep (More like 2-3% by the time the event is over). And sure some people will, but its hardly game breaking.

    -Y

    If you 'earned' 1.4 mln points and could add 1.7 mln just buying gold, this is not an increase of just 5-6 %, this is more like 120%. And multiplying the bonus with the number of coopmembers before comparing it to the cooptotal this number may be well over 300%.
  • Hypatia6Hypatia6 Posts: 48
    edited 19.01.2015
    steppie3 wrote: »
    Ok what is up with everyone

    ITS A GAME

    You buy gold if you want to, no one twists your arm
    You can play this GAME without buying gold
    Your co-op will be quite happy with you doing missions and helping out on projects, also being involved with everyone else in the co-op

    HAPPY PLAYING

    Hoofhearted on EN1

    UMM this isn't about buying or not buying gold...Its about what you are getting as a prize (rps)for buying gold from HOT DEAL. With so many people upset over a issue I would say what is wrong with you for not seeing the issue?
  • pizza1235pizza1235 Posts: 36
    edited 19.01.2015
    SHAME ON YOU GGS. what is the point in playing the coop challenge if you can just buy your way up to the top???? alot of people and coops prepare for weeks to be ready for the coop challenge and you just let them buy rep points to get to top ranks. take down the deal!!!!
  • anifromid (US1)anifromid (US1) US1 Posts: 103
    edited 19.01.2015
    Steppi's right, it's a game

    Miss Imogene Igotacreditcard will be coming in first place, Mr Bob BuyGold in second, and Ms. Vera VisaCardsNotMaxxed will be coming in third...... who else wants to play, the game will be starting soon?

    hmmm, for some reason I'm not very interested in joining that game, can't imagine why.
  • mymoofarms (US1)mymoofarms (US1) Posts: 9
    edited 19.01.2015
    why is everyone up in arms about this ,when they have a similar offer for xpt's.with enough gold buying for those offers .you can be a top player and not farm.whats the point to that.haven't been playing long but i quickly am learning what this company is about.if your crazy enough to spend so much on gold you could fast track building your 3 farms. and in fact i learned from a friend that use to play and warned me not to bother. i know i can't name this player but she fast tracked building her farms and within the 1st 2 mos. of playing was ranked in the top 50 players on the u.s. server.within 4 or 5 mos was #1,taking the that spot from a player who's been playing since the game stated.the same player when the island was introduced she had the island fully upgraded in one day.so it really it's the same as this buying rep points.those with the deepest pockets crazy enough to spend so much can be #1 ,weather in missions or player ranks,for the fact of the matter a co-op can buy their way to the top pushing production with gold to to complete projects faster.my understanding is that has already happened. so we can complain about these things but frankly ggs could care less as long as people are buying the gold packs.greed over happy players i guess. my opinion is this keeps us distracted from what i feel are more important issues,like how the game functions.i was warned and now am learning the game is a constant broken product.with little more than a moments notice game shuts down for maintnance to fix problems caused by their updates to improve our game experience.ggs plays the percentages.they can screw up on improvements create unfair advantages for those who can afford it,knowing that only a small amount of people will walk away from the game.those that have spent many $$ on this game wont walk away from what has become a investment to build and play. non gold buyers they could care less about their happy gaming experience.i understand it's a bus. when i do eventually join a co-op sure i'll buy gold to help fill projects but i won't be buying to farm,hopefully i can find a co-op that has the views as mine get ahead by working ,not buying your way to the top. well there's my 2 cents for what it's worth.
  • Hypatia6Hypatia6 Posts: 48
    edited 19.01.2015
    mymoofarms wrote: »
    why is everyone up in arms about this ,when they have a similar offer for xpt's.with enough gold buying for those offers .you can be a top player and not farm.whats the point to that.haven't been playing long but i quickly am learning what this company is about.if your crazy enough to spend so much on gold you could fast track building your 3 farms. and in fact i learned from a friend that use to play and warned me not to bother. i know i can't name this player but she fast tracked building her farms and within the 1st 2 mos. of playing was ranked in the top 50 players on the u.s. server.within 4 or 5 mos was #1,taking the that spot from a player who's been playing since the game stated.the same player when the island was introduced she had the island fully upgraded in one day.so it really it's the same as this buying rep points.those with the deepest pockets crazy enough to spend so much can be #1 ,weather in missions or player ranks,for the fact of the matter a co-op can buy their way to the top pushing production with gold to to complete projects faster.my understanding is that has already happened. so we can complain about these things but frankly ggs could care less as long as people are buying the gold packs.greed over happy players i guess. my opinion is this keeps us distracted from what i feel are more important issues,like how the game functions.i was warned and now am learning the game is a constant broken product.with little more than a moments notice game shuts down for maintnance to fix problems caused by their updates to improve our game experience.ggs plays the percentages.they can screw up on improvements create unfair advantages for those who can afford it,knowing that only a small amount of people will walk away from the game.those that have spent many $$ on this game wont walk away from what has become a investment to build and play. non gold buyers they could care less about their happy gaming experience.i understand it's a bus. when i do eventually join a co-op sure i'll buy gold to help fill projects but i won't be buying to farm,hopefully i can find a co-op that has the views as mine get ahead by working ,not buying your way to the top. well there's my 2 cents for what it's worth.


    Well, seeing that you are in your Level 30s & especially since you are not in a coop would be why you do not understand or relate.
  • mystie71mystie71 Posts: 59
    edited 19.01.2015
    really Yakoska this doesnt bother u?

    i mean yes yr team is ranked 7th...oppps i mean 8th!! because the co-op under u bought their trophy and so many rep points to jump way ahead of everyone else...oh yes yr hard work sure is paying off...the planning and strategy out the door,,,, sold for about $300:(
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 19.01.2015
    told u guys before, first island event and viking event and special stables and now co-op event and orchards.
    my guess is next they will add an event that gives peach and almond orchards to top gold players so that the whole chain be complete for those players.
    a whole new farm for top gold users only that's all the past few months updates has been.
    (no offense to those players btw the fault isn't yours, it's the game that is becoming more and more sucky everyday now)

    oh and in the meanwhile, free players or medium spenders can go suck a peacock instead. that's ggs strategy.

    the title of this thread says it all:
    ggs = jerks
    for one thing i'm glad though, that i can easily post such a thing now without even worrying if they ban my account even anymore. i would care less either way honestly at this point anymore.
  • Maggiltilda (NL1)Maggiltilda (NL1) NL1 Posts: 546
    edited 19.01.2015
    I don't see the difference between missions and skipping, skipping and another skipping until he or she is finishing as no.1 in the mission or you buy your reputation points. I don't like it both.

    Good luck to all who is playing fair.
  • Dara (SKN1)Dara (SKN1) SKN1 Posts: 2,638
    edited 19.01.2015
    for one thing i'm glad though, that i can easily post such a thing now without even worrying if they ban my account even anymore. i would care less either way honestly at this point anymore.

    I can say, that somehow i'm starting to feel the same... but still going to continue playing the game. Still don't buy gold and still trying to win RP:s without gold....

    Yes i know that gold buyers needs to have something more with their money, but this really is too much, totally wrong
  • barbcwy (US1)barbcwy (US1) Posts: 38
    edited 19.01.2015
    I agree about the Cooperative Challenge standings being compromised by the gold deal.
    BUT, the farms of you complainers that I have looked at all have highly upgraded fancy houses, barns, workshops, water towers, many gold items.
    So, you use gold, but it's not ok for others to buy it when it will benefit them for this challenge. Does that mean you don't use gold to win your missions? Really?
    You know GGS is a business with the purpose of making money. Capitalism. Either play or don't.
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