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Unless this farce is changed, I will never be part of a challenge again.
What must be done to regain the desire of the people to continue to play is to roll the points back to where we EARNED them and refund the money paid for those sold. I can guarantee you that you will lose much less money if you do that then you will if you don't. No one trusts you now. You can change that to just a stupid mistake that you repaired. It's up to you.
If you've noticed (and I'm sure you have) absolutely everyone on this thread is disgusted. Not one "for".
You've ruined this co-op challenge and hope you NEVER repeat this hotdeal (NOT). You have made the work of hard working teams that had finished and recieved their trophy prior to this offer meaningless.
So sad, like you have done selling XP in Empire, it isn't right.
What a disgrace.....
Yep, pretty sure you guys need a rep-boost to.
Alas,no.longer.
I would not want them to be taught that hard work,skill,planning,perseverance,and team work count for nothing in this world,not even in a frivolous on-line game.
Get to the top by any means possible and who cares about the suckers who play by the rules? Is that really the attitude you want your games to foster?
So well said, GGS you have crossed the line with a bought competition. Shame on you. Everyone who won a trophy deserves a apple or cherry orchard, There are no true winners now. Used to recommend this game, no more. You have become to greedy with profit at the expense of ethics.
"The corporation cannot be ethical, its only responsibility is to make a profit."
Jim Hightower
"Commerce is the school of cheating" Vauvenaues
GGS a new low you have achieved. No more competitions. Regroup People!!!
My co-op had won the trophy fair and square ( within the rules of whatever nonsense you set out for us) before this deal even hit. You know what? Out of solidarity to those that got blasted by the greed within this company, I won't be setting the trophy out. It's a slap in the face to everybody.
Talk about boosters, gold pushes and methods of play all you want. NONE of it is a straight out "pay to win" formula. It's literally an entire method of game-play changed midstream and it's reminiscent of how you treated the other servers when you wanted to experiment with hos they purchase and hold things. There was NEVER even one apology for that. Bluntly, you do NOT care and feel entitled to do this to people as you see fit.
A reset at this point would throw things in the air as it is a pretend way of not putting value to hard work and planning. Seeing it through is pointless as we all know the prizes awarded on all levels are without valor.
You make disasterous changes without regard to your paying playership and never have to feel you are sorry for doing so. It's like you're above the laws that govern gaming in general. Let me tell you something, you are not. The cavalier "to heck with them, we'll do as we please to drive profits" attitude has to stop. Haven't you lost enough paying members to even care or notice? Are you that blind? Go ahead. Keep being blind. When you finally look up, you'll wonder why we've put you out on the streets because it's US who contyrol you, not the other way around. You don't think so? How would you like it if we put a 90 day ban on ANY buying game currency. Your bosses would laugh and carry on, but you'd be in the bread lines. Keep pushing it, we'll push back.
at least apologize for ruining a competition and wasting our time, that would be a start. I won't hold my breath for it, though. You folks simply never do that.
Part One: The Negative effects the Rep Hot Deal
You can buy gold to use, and 'earn' 1,750,000 rep as a bonus max. In my Co-op that would be good for 4th place (for now). And if *I* did it, adding it to my 1,450,000 'earned' rep (5th currently) I could jump to 3rd, and the Co-op would get the next prize, and be inches sort of the following one.
There's not a player in our top group of earners that hasn't used gold for the challenge in missions/libraries, what have you. So in terms of internal rankings... the effect is there, but negligible. The internal rewards are, at best, token anyway. 3 Seaweed humus? I like it, but its not going to make me competitive just for that.
So lets look at the effect on the Co-op v Co-op aspect. My Co-op is ranked 7th in the US, and we're probably going to to get the Trophy sometime tonight. So 1.75 mil compared to 31 mil. So individually people could spend $100 real dollars for a 5-6% increase in the Co-ops total Rep (More like 2-3% by the time the event is over). And sure some people will, but its hardly game breaking. And seriously, how many of the Co-Ops in the race for top 10, haven't had 3 or 4 Co-op boosters running for part of the event?
It still turns my stomach a little, but after I looked at the numbers I realized its not as horrible as I first thought.
Now lets look at one possible 'positive' effects:
A player has real life issues, that the Co-op understands, and can't contribute time, but they are getting all these rewards for free. They could bow out of the Co-op for the duration of the challenge, or... they could buy some gold, and help their co-op maybe get a reward they wouldn't have reached otherwise (for non-competitive co-ops) and feel like a part of the team. Especially in conjunction with the Co-op gets 50%/100% of the gold you buy offers.
This deal gives them a chance to help out, even though they can't put in the time they'd like.
I'm not saying I like it. I'm saying the hew and cry over seems a bit over the top. To iterate my point, all this Hot Deal is really doing (Other than putting $ in GGS's pocket) is putting a spotlight on the fact that you can't compete without gold, its not the cause.
-Y
What about when 3,4 even 5 people do that. It's a game changer and blows others out of the water. Quite literally, position 13's have gone to position 5's overnight because of this. That's positive to you??? It's SO much more about the trophy. It's about the hard work and planning, teamwork and playership that has been poured over all being counted for nothing here.
1 person makes a ripple. Many make a wave. That's the point.
Let's put this into a different perspective. ......
You study hard. You pour over information, pay attention and take notes. Test day comes and you get a 100. The guy sitting next to you shows up after being there for perhaps half the classes. He slips the teacher a few dollars and gets a 95. This is fair to you, your work and dedication? All the hours? Now let's bring it to full reality. Half the stupid class hands the teacher some money and mysteriously 25 other people all get amazing grdes. How smart do you feel for putting in the work now? Is it fair? One person? Not huge difference. Half the class? Yeah, it's a huge deal worth the hew and cry. Unfair is unfair any way you look at it.
ITS A GAME
You buy gold if you want to, no one twists your arm
You can play this GAME without buying gold
Your co-op will be quite happy with you doing missions and helping out on projects, also being involved with everyone else in the co-op
HAPPY PLAYING
Hoofhearted on EN1
I couldn't agree more! I liked all the changes to the format. The boosters helped more players to win a trophy. When you looked at other farms they were few and far between. Had they just given us a co-op gold bonus buy like the first day, that would have been fine. But this?
This isn't about just the challenge anymore for regular mission players. The reputation points players worked so hard to earn are now tainted in the permanent standings. Do we add a * next to their names just like in baseball stats? Yes they broke that record but they cheated? This put the overall top mission players in a very bad position. I know I watched where I was in the mission standings, you saw it every day. Now I've dropped at least 10 spots at this point. Good job GGS. I have lost my desire to play.
If you 'earned' 1.4 mln points and could add 1.7 mln just buying gold, this is not an increase of just 5-6 %, this is more like 120%. And multiplying the bonus with the number of coopmembers before comparing it to the cooptotal this number may be well over 300%.
UMM this isn't about buying or not buying gold...Its about what you are getting as a prize (rps)for buying gold from HOT DEAL. With so many people upset over a issue I would say what is wrong with you for not seeing the issue?
Miss Imogene Igotacreditcard will be coming in first place, Mr Bob BuyGold in second, and Ms. Vera VisaCardsNotMaxxed will be coming in third...... who else wants to play, the game will be starting soon?
hmmm, for some reason I'm not very interested in joining that game, can't imagine why.
Well, seeing that you are in your Level 30s & especially since you are not in a coop would be why you do not understand or relate.
i mean yes yr team is ranked 7th...oppps i mean 8th!! because the co-op under u bought their trophy and so many rep points to jump way ahead of everyone else...oh yes yr hard work sure is paying off...the planning and strategy out the door,,,, sold for about $300:(
my guess is next they will add an event that gives peach and almond orchards to top gold players so that the whole chain be complete for those players.
a whole new farm for top gold users only that's all the past few months updates has been.
(no offense to those players btw the fault isn't yours, it's the game that is becoming more and more sucky everyday now)
oh and in the meanwhile, free players or medium spenders can go suck a peacock instead. that's ggs strategy.
the title of this thread says it all:
ggs = jerks
for one thing i'm glad though, that i can easily post such a thing now without even worrying if they ban my account even anymore. i would care less either way honestly at this point anymore.
Good luck to all who is playing fair.
I can say, that somehow i'm starting to feel the same... but still going to continue playing the game. Still don't buy gold and still trying to win RP:s without gold....
Yes i know that gold buyers needs to have something more with their money, but this really is too much, totally wrong
BUT, the farms of you complainers that I have looked at all have highly upgraded fancy houses, barns, workshops, water towers, many gold items.
So, you use gold, but it's not ok for others to buy it when it will benefit them for this challenge. Does that mean you don't use gold to win your missions? Really?
You know GGS is a business with the purpose of making money. Capitalism. Either play or don't.