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Breeding Better Quality Horse?

Lynn51Lynn51 Posts: 36
I am confused on the breeding page. It says chance of breeding a new quality -67% with my lvl 22. With my 12 and 7 horses together says -24%. It's the minus that throws me off. Are my chances better with the -67 or -24? I would think the 67 but can anyone clarify this please?
Thanks
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  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 12.01.2015
    The % number are attached to the stats, and indicate the cost benefit for training those skills on the new horse. There is no % given that the quality will increase.

    One weird thing I've noticed is that with two horses, A and B... if I put A in the top box, and B in the lower box, I get a quality increase chance. If I reverse them... I don't.

    -Y
  • Teri992Teri992 Posts: 7
    edited 13.01.2015
    So the Minus 24 would be better than the minus 67? Right?
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 13.01.2015
    I'll be perfectly honest, I don't know. But I think higher is better. 0% is terrible. No change. -97% would mean, that in order to get the same benefit from 100 horseshoes, you only have to spend 3 horseshoes with the new horse. But again, not 100% certain on that.

    -Y
  • Lynn51Lynn51 Posts: 36
    edited 13.01.2015
    Oh ok well I thank you for your responses. I see I'm not the only one confused by this. I'll write one of the forum leaders and ask. It sorta reminds me of the minus in happiness meter instead of plus lol.
  • sableskye (US1)sableskye (US1) US1 Posts: 27
    edited 13.01.2015
    Hi lynn

    • "decreased amount of training points needed for attribute level-up (%)"

    I copied the above from the official announcement page. I think that the above refers exactly to that (-) minus percent number that they give. In that case, the higher ,the number, the better. So -95 is definitely better than a -25 (for ex.)
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 13.01.2015
    Teri992 wrote: »
    So the Minus 24 would be better than the minus 67? Right?

    Quite the opposite. -67% is better. Lets say that you do a training for 1000 shoes. If your have -67%, this means that your new foe will need -67% less horseshoes for the same result. So, only 330 horseshoes for the same result. -24% means 760 for the same result. But you have to take care, if your horse has already had some reduction form previous breedning.
    Look how many training points will you get for training first or second horse for a choosen number of horseshoes and than you can recalculate what is better. (I will try this with my horses and explain more clearly later on, when I figure out exacty how it works).
  • edited 13.01.2015
    Hi! Sorry for posting here. Seemed more or less same problem. Have a quest called Crossing and Pairing. It says have 1 horse with breeding quality of 1. Have no idea what that means. The flavour text mentions Arabian horses.
  • Yakoska (US1)Yakoska (US1) Posts: 1,631
    edited 13.01.2015
    Arrakkamani.... When you look at the potential foals when you click the breed tab, you see two boxes. One with a picture of a horse, on top of another one. The lower box has space for 4 bits of information.

    The top line shows the training discount. You want a high -X% (thanks sable for finding the line that confirmed what I thought.) The next line can be blank, OR it can say "Chance of a New Breeding Quality Level". In order to breed a quality level, this line has to be active. The 3rd line says "+X Random Breeding Effects" and the last line is the cost (500 horseshoes) and the Breeding button.

    Hope that helps.

    -Y
  • edited 13.01.2015
    Ah its random. I had 3 choices on the breeding effect so far:
    Strength +2
    Elegance +6
    Elegance +8
    Don't know what elegance does. But the more the better suppose.
    Hopefully next time i get the increased breeding quality option.
    Thank you for explaining.
  • edited 13.01.2015
    hi,
    I just bred a pair and the foal level was at 30 which gave me a quality level 1 foal, the red circle had a 1 in it, this gave me extra attributes apart from the elegance level i already got from its parent, it received a jump power +10 and its training % was up at -96 , it is better to train your two horses as much as you can, after level20 your foal receives 1 extra attribute then another when the joint training of your parents gets the foal up to level 30, ps about the elegance it boosts your performance when you challenge the other horses in the dressage, i cant check now as there training but when you challenge the other horse you will notice a number in green that shows your horse has that extra boost,now i know why the stable will hold so many horses as you upgrade it, its so you can get one horse for each event with different breeding qualities so they have better attributes for each event and challenges,when i bred mine i had 3 choices to choose from, +3 elegance +4 elegance and +10 jump power, i could only choose 2 of those so think about what you want the horse to do,i will add more info as i progress but at the moment because i got my training% above -90% the new foal is training up very quickly to level 40, caution make sure you work on the partner for this foal so you have a good pair to breed up next time, its no good just training up the foal and breeding it to a low level partner.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 13.01.2015
    Ah its random. I had 3 choices on the breeding effect so far:
    Strength +2
    Elegance +6
    Elegance +8
    Don't know what elegance does. But the more the better suppose.
    Hopefully next time i get the increased breeding quality option.
    Thank you for explaining.

    Elegance is for doing better in dressage (Lester)
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 13.01.2015
    Hi! Sorry for posting here. Seemed more or less same problem. Have a quest called Crossing and Pairing. It says have 1 horse with breeding quality of 1. Have no idea what that means. The flavour text mentions Arabian horses.

    When you breed horses (above lvl 10), you get one random effect (for example elegance +8 or strenght +2). Higher is your horse quality, higher is a chance that you will get a better effect. For example, you have better chances to get elegance +15 instead of elegance +8. Keep in mind that is still random, soo...
  • Lynn51Lynn51 Posts: 36
    edited 13.01.2015
    Thanks everyone. I think I get it now... so the -67 would be better choice. Larino answered in mail as well.
  • edited 16.01.2015
    I am puzzled. I just bred lvl 32 horse with lvl 30 horse. Usually when bred the training costs are decreased for amount varying 0-90%. But in my case the chart showed 0% decrease in training costs, even though the levels were about the same.

    Is it really so that in higher level breeding the training cost benefits no longer becomes better?
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 16.01.2015
    Yes, I noticed something like that too. It seams that next generation horses have to be trained up to a certain level to get the decrease in training costs. For second generation of horses I did not get the reduction with both horses on lvl 21 or lower. When
    i trained one of my horses to lvl 25 (average 23) a reduction of -37% shoved up. After thraining of both of my horses to lvl 25, reduction raised to -73%. So lesson to learn: neve breed horses BEFORE you reach a level when reduction of training costs appears.

    (Both horses had -84% reduction allready from breeding two lvl 13 horses).
  • Gambit8Gambit8 Posts: 42
    edited 16.01.2015
    aaabbb1 wrote: »
    Yes, I noticed something like that too. It seams that next generation horses have to be trained up to a certain level to get the decrease in training costs. For second generation of horses I did not get the reduction with both horses on lvl 21 or lower. When
    i trained one of my horses to lvl 25 (average 23) a reduction of -37% shoved up. After thraining of both of my horses to lvl 25, reduction raised to -73%. So lesson to learn: neve breed horses BEFORE you reach a level when reduction of training costs appears.

    (Both horses had -84% reduction allready from breeding two lvl 13 horses).

    I hope this info is being collated somewhere because it is extremely useful! Thanks for posting your findings!

    Hmm, I wonder if you could've reached -100% by leveling those two first-generation horses a few more times?
  • Agons000 (AU1)Agons000 (AU1) Posts: 39
    edited 17.01.2015
    Gambit8 wrote: »
    I hope this info is being collated somewhere because it is extremely useful! Thanks for posting your findings!

    Hmm, I wonder if you could've reached -100% by leveling those two first-generation horses a few more times?

    I haven't been paying attention to it that much but I THINK -95% is the limit, don't think you get anymore reduction in training, no matter how many more training you do. That only apples to breeding the two first-generation horses, because I think the reduction limit keeps reducing the higher BV your horse is, but like I said, I haven't really paid too much attention to the reduction, so it's just a guess.
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 18.01.2015
    Gambit8 wrote: »
    I hope this info is being collated somewhere because it is extremely useful! Thanks for posting your findings!

    I am collecting such kind of info, but unfortunatelly very slow. When I collect more data, i will post my findings.

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