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Horse Ranch - Training Points
RunsWivScissors (GB1)
GB1 Posts: 6,633
When you are in the training setup window thingy, it shows you need horseshoes to start training, the horseshoe count is at the top of the box, but no training point counter. When you collect the points at the end of training, the gold star appears to fly over to the inventory, but I only see the 2 different horseshoe collections in there.
Where are they hiding? 8|
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Yours are in your inventory?.... So, where are mine? ;(
I see the slider thingy shows how many horseshoes convert to how many training points, but the question is still where do you see how many training points you have accumulated? Even XP shows at the top of the screen.
ETA: 240 for each level, right?
But then I did not pay attention to those elusive points-upwards since I thought only golden shoes flew and I'd still like to know where ANY of my winnings of those from the last 24 hours are
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Of course that could all be totally wrong lolol 8o
I can't upgrade training areas any further because I spent all my golden horseshoes on upgrading them all to Lv3. Can't find ANY explanation as to how the level of the training area affect the quality of the training. All it says is upgrading the area increases the points you receive and also lets you use 'even more horseshoes for normal training'. As far as I can see the max number of horseshoes you can use is 4000 and this limit hasn't changed at all when I upgrade my little pony. so how on earth can we upgrade training areas when the training sessions don't seem to be producing competition wins and therefore golden horseshoes??
upgrading the trainingfacilities gives you a + in goldstars (trainingXP) per training, more training gives higher level for that type of training = a better horse. However, it doesn't seem to help much in winning competitions, unless you use the full 4000 horseshoes, to get to a higher lever faster.
Then again, using the max amount of horseshoes gives less trainingpoints per horseshoe. The critical point in this is at the start of 'intensive training'. Before that point: 10 horseshoes = 1 trainingpoint, after that point: 10 horseshoes = 0.something (the more horseshoes the smaller it gets.).
I can't find McSaece's answer but yes, after training the slider just moves for how much you paid for it.
I had thought that the competitions, where you can also see some percentages in the "Details" had had something to do with XP, but no longer see any direct corrolation.
Yes, there's also difference in number between the stars of the level you reach for the TP, and those when you do a competition - and then you have a different number depending on which of the three competitions you do as well (i.e. 4,4 and 5 for level of training, but 23, 26, 25 overall - correlation there, but needless confusion with all those different stars).
I don't usually have problems with complicated texts or concepts, but all those - different but sounding and looking the same - horseshoes and certificates and training points and level numbers and not-quite-XP are ****ing me off (mainly because the system seems so damn simple, but you do not actually win with a better horse, more training and more XP).
Because you are not rewarded with a win for upgrading your horse it's impossible to upgrade the facilities and because you have no way of knowing the 'strength' of you opponent it seems that you will be forever training your horse. Hardly an incentive to carry on with the useless nag, and a waste of horseshoes!
I completely agree with you. GG should tell us what the gold star experience points are - what they mean. There should also be some sort of guideline that tells us how far the horse can go. The machines were obvious - you go from 1-7 -but there is no way of us knowing if the games is actually taking any training into consideration in the competitions. The competitor's horses are given a level (in the blue stars) but we do not have the equivalent rating. We get a training points. It's like comparing apples with house bricks and it STINKS
Its a strange situation we find ourselves in, because the ranch is set up to be started by a player around level 16 or is it 19?....Who has a couple of horseshoes from the 1st ship tasks. So they would be progressing through these stages very slowly. We, on the other hand, are diving in with a shedload of horseshoes levelling up to the max before our horses have barely learned their names. On top of that, only the basics of one horse have been released so far, so as not to make it too confusing (haha) while we get used to the system.... So my plan is to go with the flow for now, level up whatever I can & hope that once we get the full system installed it will all make a lot more sense..... Well thats the theory anyway lol :S
We will probably find we shot ourselves in the foot rushing to level up lol.... It seemed to be easier to win fancy shoes at lower levels of training, so if you only had a few horseshoes, you would be doing more challenges at those levels and waiting for cooldown to end. I have been using the cooldown time to do more training & like others I am now finding i harder to get enough fancy shoes to do the upgrades.
In for a penny, in for a pound, I say! 8o Hilarious emoticon, Runs! LOL
Had to put that picture to dropbox, attaching didn't work and I've used it before so I can't understand what I could be doing wrong.
Edit2: So you train your horse, it wins several competitions in a row and then there is a big bump in competitions level and you start loosing everything. That kinda makes sense, but those blue stars are supposed to reflect that right? They don't seem to do that.
Except ...
Has anybody tried NOT doing as told, NOT to train and upgrade? Would the competitors' horses (illogically) then drop down a few levels until we are able to win against them again? An "invisible" cooldown behind the official one?
Would still be the first time a clear order like "you need to train more" (this aimed at lv 16 players) should be ignored ...
Perhaps is more a matter of persistence. Train until you drop
When i look at my levels via the stable it currently says: strength 5, 9 more / endurance 0, 2 more / agility 5, 9 more.
When i look at my levels by opening it up via an arena they are all different!!
Agility page: strength 5, 9 more / endurance 0, 2 more / agility 5, 5 more
Endurance page: strength 5, 9 more / endurance 1, 4 more / agility 5, 5 more
Strength page: strength 5, 5 more / endurance 0, 2 more / agility 5, 9 more
I don't get it?
I don't get it too! 8|
It seems like the same symbol and color (gold star) is used to represent different measurements. When I change the training slide bar, more horseshoes equates to more gold stars - but those gold stars in the slide bar are of a different value/purpose than the gold stars directly above. (that dawg don't hunt)
Also, why do the values in the gold stars for the same attribute keep changing depending on which screen I'm looking at? (granted, I've not done a huge amount of training, but I can't seem to establish cause and effect) For example:
Strength - main stable screen = 1
Strength - training screen, strength tab = 2
Strength - training screen, endurance tab = 1
Strength - training screen, agility tab = 1
And finally, what do the green (sometimes blue) progress bar comments reference? (10 more, 4 more, 0 more, 25 more) More what exactly?
Thanks to everyone's helpful comments above. I think, for now, I'll just save my horseshoes for the next horse ranch update or an enlightened one's explanation.
Also the information on each of the courses talks about endurance or agility or strength training but also talks about "normal training". Where on earth do you do the "normal training"????
By my estimations the time it takes to train your horse each time and the fact you can only spend 4000 at a time in training means that my 600,000 horseshoes and the 500 special seeds I have stored waiting to use means my resources from the two trips to the island should last me for another year. I should be able to use them faster.
If you make the training too intensive (by going up to the maximum no. of horseshoes) the horse gets "strained" and it's not as efficient in winning you points/competitions as it is if you keep the slider in the beginning of the "orange" zone
Discussion thread for the horse ranch update is what I'm using to figure this out ... gradually.
I believe normal training is when you spend minimal amount of horseshoe for train.. but if you spend alot or max out 4000 horseshoes, then it become intensive training..
I've also earn quite a few horseshoes from the past 2 events, but since we will have multiple horse.. up to 6 ? and at training levels 7 and above.. even max out 4000 shoes doesnt get you to the next level..
Im wondering... how long those horseshoes will last... hehehe.