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Horse Ranch - Training Points

RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
OK I have looked & looked & I can`t seem to find where our Training points (Gold Stars) are stored.... Has anyone found them?

When you are in the training setup window thingy, it shows you need horseshoes to start training, the horseshoe count is at the top of the box, but no training point counter. When you collect the points at the end of training, the gold star appears to fly over to the inventory, but I only see the 2 different horseshoe collections in there.

Where are they hiding? 8|
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  • CobbPlayer (AU1)CobbPlayer (AU1) Posts: 32
    edited 25.10.2014
    in your inventory ?
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 25.10.2014
    CobbPlayer wrote: »
    in your inventory ?

    Yours are in your inventory?.... So, where are mine? ;(
  • MrSaece (INT1)MrSaece (INT1) INT1 Posts: 147
    edited 25.10.2014
    idk whether or not u noticed that 'training point' is like our main farm XP..we use horseshoes to train our horses and get 'training points'..only 'compettition horseshoes'(we get by winning competitions) are stored in our inventory..
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 25.10.2014
    MrSaece wrote: »
    idk whether or not u noticed that 'training point' is like our main farm XP..we use horseshoes to train our horses and get 'training points'..only 'compettition horseshoes'(we get by winning competitions) are stored in our inventory..

    I see the slider thingy shows how many horseshoes convert to how many training points, but the question is still where do you see how many training points you have accumulated? Even XP shows at the top of the screen.
  • MrSaece (INT1)MrSaece (INT1) INT1 Posts: 147
    edited 25.10.2014
    yeap..maybe they could/should add that in the next update..
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 25.10.2014
    Ahhhh I had an idea...Thanks to MrSaece....... The stars could be flying over to the rankings, not inventory. We can select to view rankings for XP, RP & AP but so far there isn`t one TP, maybe that is where it is going to be added. ^^
  • snork (INT1)snork (INT1) Posts: 518
    edited 25.10.2014
    Do you note a difference when you next train, ie. is the slider a bit further ahead to the right? Logically that's where the training points should be. No need to store them seperately, since they just go into your horse's muscle.

    ETA: 240 for each level, right?

    But then I did not pay attention to those elusive points-upwards since I thought only golden shoes flew and I'd still like to know where ANY of my winnings of those from the last 24 hours are :( because this is not "losing" IMO:

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  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 25.10.2014
    @ Snork, I`m not 100% sure but I think the slider is saying how many TP you will earn, depending on how many horseshoes you use. Then when you finish training & get that big old star to click, thats when you get them. I am thinking MrSaece is correct that they are like XP as that makes sense when you think all the rankings are different colour stars and points, they just aren`t on the rankings lists yet.

    Of course that could all be totally wrong lolol 8o
  • tracey40 (GB1)tracey40 (GB1) Posts: 113
    edited 25.10.2014
    Ok I really don't understand the logic behind the training sessions. Trained horse to Lv 6 and played competitions until I lost all 3. Upgraded horse to Lv 7 on all 3 skills, played 3 competitions and still lost all 3.

    I can't upgrade training areas any further because I spent all my golden horseshoes on upgrading them all to Lv3. Can't find ANY explanation as to how the level of the training area affect the quality of the training. All it says is upgrading the area increases the points you receive and also lets you use 'even more horseshoes for normal training'. As far as I can see the max number of horseshoes you can use is 4000 and this limit hasn't changed at all when I upgrade my little pony. so how on earth can we upgrade training areas when the training sessions don't seem to be producing competition wins and therefore golden horseshoes??
  • DAC99 (NL1)DAC99 (NL1) Posts: 56
    edited 25.10.2014
    tracey40 wrote: »
    Ok I really don't understand the logic behind the training sessions. Trained horse to Lv 6 and played competitions until I lost all 3. Upgraded horse to Lv 7 on all 3 skills, played 3 competitions and still lost all 3.

    I can't upgrade training areas any further because I spent all my golden horseshoes on upgrading them all to Lv3. Can't find ANY explanation as to how the level of the training area affect the quality of the training. All it says is upgrading the area increases the points you receive and also lets you use 'even more horseshoes for normal training'. As far as I can see the max number of horseshoes you can use is 4000 and this limit hasn't changed at all when I upgrade my little pony. so how on earth can we upgrade training areas when the training sessions don't seem to be producing competition wins and therefore golden horseshoes??



    upgrading the trainingfacilities gives you a + in goldstars (trainingXP) per training, more training gives higher level for that type of training = a better horse. However, it doesn't seem to help much in winning competitions, unless you use the full 4000 horseshoes, to get to a higher lever faster.
    Then again, using the max amount of horseshoes gives less trainingpoints per horseshoe. The critical point in this is at the start of 'intensive training'. Before that point: 10 horseshoes = 1 trainingpoint, after that point: 10 horseshoes = 0.something (the more horseshoes the smaller it gets.).
  • snork (INT1)snork (INT1) Posts: 518
    edited 25.10.2014
    @ Snork, I`m not 100% sure but I think the slider is saying how many TP you will earn, depending on how many horseshoes you use. Then when you finish training & get that big old star to click, thats when you get them. I am thinking MrSaece is correct that they are like XP as that makes sense when you think all the rankings are different colour stars and points, they just aren`t on the rankings lists yet.

    Of course that could all be totally wrong lolol 8o

    I can't find McSaece's answer but yes, after training the slider just moves for how much you paid for it.
    I had thought that the competitions, where you can also see some percentages in the "Details" had had something to do with XP, but no longer see any direct corrolation.
    Yes, there's also difference in number between the stars of the level you reach for the TP, and those when you do a competition - and then you have a different number depending on which of the three competitions you do as well (i.e. 4,4 and 5 for level of training, but 23, 26, 25 overall - correlation there, but needless confusion with all those different stars).

    I don't usually have problems with complicated texts or concepts, but all those - different but sounding and looking the same - horseshoes and certificates and training points and level numbers and not-quite-XP are ****ing me off (mainly because the system seems so damn simple, but you do not actually win with a better horse, more training and more XP).
  • tracey40 (GB1)tracey40 (GB1) Posts: 113
    edited 25.10.2014
    OK as an experiment I maxed out the training horseshoes - took each horse to Lv8 and still lost all challenges. This suggests that the game is working against training. So that's no wins between lv6-8.

    Because you are not rewarded with a win for upgrading your horse it's impossible to upgrade the facilities and because you have no way of knowing the 'strength' of you opponent it seems that you will be forever training your horse. Hardly an incentive to carry on with the useless nag, and a waste of horseshoes!
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 25.10.2014
    I think it's fairly obvious that more detailed information on the horse ranch should be given to the players. I don't like being dumped into part of the game and have to grope about looking for answers. Not my idea of fun, if you get my drift.
  • tracey40 (GB1)tracey40 (GB1) Posts: 113
    edited 25.10.2014
    I think it's fairly obvious that more detailed information on the horse ranch should be given to the players. I don't like being dumped into part of the game and have to grope about looking for answers. Not my idea of fun, if you get my drift.


    I completely agree with you. GG should tell us what the gold star experience points are - what they mean. There should also be some sort of guideline that tells us how far the horse can go. The machines were obvious - you go from 1-7 -but there is no way of us knowing if the games is actually taking any training into consideration in the competitions. The competitor's horses are given a level (in the blue stars) but we do not have the equivalent rating. We get a training points. It's like comparing apples with house bricks and it STINKS
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 25.10.2014
    I think it's fairly obvious that more detailed information on the horse ranch should be given to the players. I don't like being dumped into part of the game and have to grope about looking for answers. Not my idea of fun, if you get my drift.

    Its a strange situation we find ourselves in, because the ranch is set up to be started by a player around level 16 or is it 19?....Who has a couple of horseshoes from the 1st ship tasks. So they would be progressing through these stages very slowly. We, on the other hand, are diving in with a shedload of horseshoes levelling up to the max before our horses have barely learned their names. On top of that, only the basics of one horse have been released so far, so as not to make it too confusing (haha) while we get used to the system.... So my plan is to go with the flow for now, level up whatever I can & hope that once we get the full system installed it will all make a lot more sense..... Well thats the theory anyway lol :S
  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 25.10.2014
    I'm still trying to figure out who they're trying to market this "horse" ranch to. You've got a little cutesy pony (with hearts!) that would appeal to a young child and a horseshoe and point system so complex that an adult has difficulty! ;)
  • RunsWivScissors (GB1)RunsWivScissors (GB1) GB1 Posts: 6,633
    edited 25.10.2014
    I'm still trying to figure out who they're trying to market this "horse" ranch to. You've got a little cutesy pony that would appeal to a child and a horseshoe and point system so complex that an adult has difficulty! ;)

    We will probably find we shot ourselves in the foot rushing to level up lol.... It seemed to be easier to win fancy shoes at lower levels of training, so if you only had a few horseshoes, you would be doing more challenges at those levels and waiting for cooldown to end. I have been using the cooldown time to do more training & like others I am now finding i harder to get enough fancy shoes to do the upgrades.
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  • farmerjohn 22 (US1)farmerjohn 22 (US1) US1 Posts: 37,770
    edited 25.10.2014
    We will probably find we shot ourselves in the foot rushing to level up lol.... It seemed to be easier to win fancy shoes at lower levels of training, so if you only had a few horseshoes, you would be doing more challenges at those levels and waiting for cooldown to end. I have been using the cooldown time to do more training & like others I am now finding i harder to get enough fancy shoes to do the upgrades.
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    In for a penny, in for a pound, I say! 8o Hilarious emoticon, Runs! LOL
  • Ria_ ()Ria_ () Posts: 280
    edited 25.10.2014
    I think more you win better your opponents horse gets, but it is still odd that I seem to be winning the competitions I shouldn't with better % than the ones I think I should win. But I'm pretty sure those practise stars simply go to take the horse to a higher level in that skill. For example, I'd need 65 of those stars to make 5 on the star to turn 6. But then there is the breeding value thingy (heart) I have no idea where they get that. piste.png

    Had to put that picture to dropbox, attaching didn't work and I've used it before so I can't understand what I could be doing wrong.


    Edit2: So you train your horse, it wins several competitions in a row and then there is a big bump in competitions level and you start loosing everything. That kinda makes sense, but those blue stars are supposed to reflect that right? They don't seem to do that.
  • snork (INT1)snork (INT1) Posts: 518
    edited 25.10.2014
    Seems we all agree - from experience - that very soon it's impossible to win any competitions.

    Except ...

    Has anybody tried NOT doing as told, NOT to train and upgrade? Would the competitors' horses (illogically) then drop down a few levels until we are able to win against them again? An "invisible" cooldown behind the official one?

    Would still be the first time a clear order like "you need to train more" (this aimed at lv 16 players) should be ignored ...
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 25.10.2014
    I could never deviate from the legitimate gameplay lol lol

    Perhaps is more a matter of persistence. Train until you drop :) meaning spend your hard-earned horseshoes as fast as possible, thus making even more compelling to work the island farm next time....maybe spend a little gold along the way? :p
  • Pingo42Pingo42 Posts: 537
    edited 25.10.2014
    My horse is presently at levels 7,8 and 7 on the 3 skills. Sometimes he wins competitions, sometimes he loses. But I don't understand the scoring system at all. The numbers shown seem to have no relation to whether or not my horse has won. Sometimes his numbers are higher & yet he lost, while at times the other horse's numbers are higher and yet my horse won. The scoring system has me totally mystified, so for now I'm just ignoring it.
  • MrsSGBrownUserMrsSGBrownUser Posts: 84
    edited 25.10.2014
    I just started to train my horse yesterday and today and I got the gold stars. I figured it would be a good idea to train him up a bit before running him through the first set of races so I did that, I put him through each one at least twice though it is hard to tell what was needed to complete anything because sometimes it seemed like the training didn't 'take' and I had to do it again. Just by going by the bars beside each type of training it was confusing as to what was needed and what wasn't. Anyway, we went through the first set of races and won all 3 and in total got 15 golden horseshoes and then it is telling me everything needs to be upgraded which costs 20 golden horseshoes. My point is that I left the amount of horseshoes used for training at the max 20 and at this rate I am going to go through horseshoes like crazy. I have quite a few but the problem is how difficult it is to tell whether the horse is leveling up or what or I am wasting horseshoes doing the same training over and over again. In my inventory all I can see is my regular horseshoes and the gold ones, nothing else. In the horse's panel when you open it up it describes him but it gives you no info on levels achieved in training at each activity or even races won/competitions won. There should be details about all this stuff in there so you can see at a glance what you/ve done so far and achieved in competitions and even the shoes should be in there so you don't have to hunt for them. [If the gold stars arexp where can you find the total you have?] And are there going to be competitions between players like missions or only between us and the characters? For all the time it took to get the horse farm started you would think they'd have done all this stuff already not to have to do updates for it now, sheesh. Sorry for the long post but I wanted to address all the issues I had not just one.
  • lucy822lucy822 Posts: 89
    edited 25.10.2014
    Im totally lost by the training...

    When i look at my levels via the stable it currently says: strength 5, 9 more / endurance 0, 2 more / agility 5, 9 more.

    When i look at my levels by opening it up via an arena they are all different!!

    Agility page: strength 5, 9 more / endurance 0, 2 more / agility 5, 5 more
    Endurance page: strength 5, 9 more / endurance 1, 4 more / agility 5, 5 more
    Strength page: strength 5, 5 more / endurance 0, 2 more / agility 5, 9 more

    I don't get it?
  • pop1pop1 Posts: 341
    edited 26.10.2014
    Well, i haven't noticed that one! I ckecked them and the numbers are different , same as yours Lucy !
    I don't get it too! 8|
  • Raven68 (US1)Raven68 (US1) Posts: 101
    edited 26.10.2014
    Well, I do feel better knowing that everyone else is having difficulty with the horse ranch. I thought it was just me.

    It seems like the same symbol and color (gold star) is used to represent different measurements. When I change the training slide bar, more horseshoes equates to more gold stars - but those gold stars in the slide bar are of a different value/purpose than the gold stars directly above. (that dawg don't hunt)

    Also, why do the values in the gold stars for the same attribute keep changing depending on which screen I'm looking at? (granted, I've not done a huge amount of training, but I can't seem to establish cause and effect) For example:
    Strength - main stable screen = 1
    Strength - training screen, strength tab = 2
    Strength - training screen, endurance tab = 1
    Strength - training screen, agility tab = 1

    And finally, what do the green (sometimes blue) progress bar comments reference? (10 more, 4 more, 0 more, 25 more) More what exactly?

    Thanks to everyone's helpful comments above. I think, for now, I'll just save my horseshoes for the next horse ranch update or an enlightened one's explanation.
  • KenziMAK (US1)KenziMAK (US1) Posts: 15
    edited 26.10.2014
    They're in your inventory along with normal horseshoes - but on page 2. :)
  • CultOfLunaCultOfLuna Posts: 6
    edited 26.10.2014
    Upgrading the ranch does nothing useful. It doesn't affect training time or increase how much you can spend. It increases training points but the amount you need to progress increases even faster.

    Also the information on each of the courses talks about endurance or agility or strength training but also talks about "normal training". Where on earth do you do the "normal training"????

    By my estimations the time it takes to train your horse each time and the fact you can only spend 4000 at a time in training means that my 600,000 horseshoes and the 500 special seeds I have stored waiting to use means my resources from the two trips to the island should last me for another year. I should be able to use them faster.
  • Kate151Kate151 Posts: 66
    edited 26.10.2014
    Regarding the training "slider" apparently there is a maximum efficiency level for the effectiveness of training.

    If you make the training too intensive (by going up to the maximum no. of horseshoes) the horse gets "strained" and it's not as efficient in winning you points/competitions as it is if you keep the slider in the beginning of the "orange" zone

    Discussion thread for the horse ranch update is what I'm using to figure this out ... gradually.
  • Seeker1 (US1)Seeker1 (US1) US1 Posts: 571
    edited 26.10.2014
    CultOfLuna wrote: »
    Upgrading the ranch does nothing useful. It doesn't affect training time or increase how much you can spend. It increases training points but the amount you need to progress increases even faster.

    Also the information on each of the courses talks about endurance or agility or strength training but also talks about "normal training". Where on earth do you do the "normal training"????

    By my estimations the time it takes to train your horse each time and the fact you can only spend 4000 at a time in training means that my 600,000 horseshoes and the 500 special seeds I have stored waiting to use means my resources from the two trips to the island should last me for another year. I should be able to use them faster.

    I believe normal training is when you spend minimal amount of horseshoe for train.. but if you spend alot or max out 4000 horseshoes, then it become intensive training..

    I've also earn quite a few horseshoes from the past 2 events, but since we will have multiple horse.. up to 6 ? and at training levels 7 and above.. even max out 4000 shoes doesnt get you to the next level..
    Im wondering... how long those horseshoes will last... hehehe.

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