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If you're seriously seeing what the feedback will be before making decisions.....I seriously hope you're listening!
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i agree with Yakoska!! this update will fumble the strategy that various co-ops have,,especially us at tyson chicken!!!!!!! we do eggs,,thats our strategy
and what about members trying to finish events on time,those with small farms or large who dont use gold,,that will hurt them,,
sounds like ggs is trying to get more gold somewhere again,,like the reworked missions,and island rankings,,
this sounds like we r gonna get penalized for not playing big farm
please figure a different way to achieve yr objective
Humm ? But when they're "Buying Everything"For the Ship, it's at a very high rate. And that means they aren't actually making any profit from doing it. They lose their profit. Or Just break even at best. So what if it wasn't planed to run that way?
It's a Strategy game isn't it ?? & That's what make it enjoyable . & when GGS Jumps on Someones Strategy, it ruins the fun of the game.. and annoys people. Games are suppose to be fun..
Isa_61:11 For as the earth bringeth forth her bud,
and as the garden causeth the things that are sown
in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause
righteousness and praise to spring forth before
all the nations.
i cannot buy poo!!! i have to harvest stables
i cannot buy leaves!!,,i have to harvest the orchards
whats the idea big farm behind no buy,,because a lot of us spend a lot of time here playing this game,,not just buying!!
I do not want this change, my co-op is hanging by a thread as it is and this change will definatly finish it off. It has been one change after another and none of the changes make the game more interesting. How many people have to loose interest and quit playing before they figure it out that no one wants these stupid changes.
The people that are "buying everything" must have made the cash in the first place to be able to adopt that strategy, as the only other way to get it would be to buy it with gold & I can`t believe GGS would be changing the format to stop people using gold. So again I ask, what harm are they doing, either to GGS or to other players? :S
I mean this as a serious question, because I assume there must be some genuine underlying harm being caused somewhere, for GGS to make such a move, knoowing full well how much drama it would cause & I am failing to see what this problem is.
This would create a whole new strategy.
You could have a new market building with different levels, each one giving a better product price or higher quantity to be allowed to buy/sell on the market.
Rusty Farmer @ au 1
A whole new strategy indeed. Let me explain what will happen: hundreds of players will make secondary accounts, by the dozens. Then, from the master account, they will put products for sale with enormous prices. From the secondary accounts, they will buy those products, pushing dollars to the master account. Multi-accounts and pushing-accounts will flourish. Now they exist, but have little impact on the game. Creating a free market will give a whole new dimension to this phenomena.
From all the stupid and crazy stuff GGS does and will do with this game to test our nerves and our pockets, this is the only thing I pray the God they will never do. Never.
They have discounts with their tanks and equipment, e.g 30% off tanks 50% off equipment, then you sell it back and you would make mega bucks doing it with expensive tanks and equipment they would put a limit on tank selling but not buying, so people still do it. What if we implement lets say, no buying too much stuff during a sale. that fixes one problem, but what about the reset esepecialy gold! Obviously some come back in cash, which is a rip off. Any ideas there?
Hold your tractors.
You do realise that you will only be able to increases it by 50% from the ORIGANAL not what you got from the last guy but the ORIGANAL.
GGS probably hasn't thought about that though. So yes and no.
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I look like that.
I don't understand what you're saying. What's ORIGANAL? sounds like a drug...
And what is with those 50%? 50% from what? an ORIGANAL pill?
Yes, I can't see our co-op doing Swimming Upstream again either if this is removed, and that's probably the one we spend the most gold on.
-Y
I would so love to say something about this, but I can't. Yet.
"Yet"? LOL.. I see a "Yes" coming up soon
So let me enrich the idea of a market even more:
- let us sell/buy gold from the market, with dollars. it will be so much fun to buy gold and share it with our fellows, sell it with a dollar or so.. I can't hardly wait
- let us sell/buy decorations, both with dollars/gold. Why buy a new Tree when you can buy a used one at half price? Really, what's the point?
- let us sell/buy buildings, like Irish chicken or other special things, with dollars/gold. Maybe the original owners are bored with it and what to share it with their friends. What do you think? A dollar a piece? Nice price, maybe I'll have one
- let us sell/buy tokens for the Wheels of Fortune. Take a chance, you might actually win 100 corn. Yupyyyyy!
Let us, why not? It will be so much fun to see this game die. It's been around for two years, time to move on. You are bored with it, obviously, since you produce stupid ideas like this new "no buying" policy.. So, do a market! It will save you the effort of killing the game slowly in about a year, it will speed up the process to around 6 month
Of course, you could control the market prices and/or quantities, like suggested before. This will prolong the agony, if desired... But why? What's the point? Give us all (FREE market) or nothing (like it is right now). Why bother controlling, calculating, percents and such heavy things that makes your programmers empty the coffee can more often? FREE for all, power to the people!!
Timo, you've got to stop with veiled hints like that. I don't think you realize the damage you do when things like that are said. It's half of our gripe, really. Hints if at all, within the game.
Let's try this...... There are two issues at play here. I really want you to read what I have tow write because I am trying to help you. If anything, we are ALL trying to help you and GGS is you really read into what is going on here lately.
***** read this aloud at your next round table meeting if you dare*****
The communication here from GGS to the playership is sub-par. It really is. I don't know if it's you who have your hands tied by upper management or what, but it needs work. We see what saying and doing nothing gets. Try it another way for a change. If you don't like the results, you can always go back to what you are doing now. I am telling you though, it is NOT working. WE understand GGS is a business. If we didn't like the product and want to see it and you succeed, we wouldn't be here. I dare say if you want a focus group of game testers which pay you instead of paying for it, it's a major business advantage. Example : Horses. Actually put it out there what the issue is. "Hey guys, we are having issues with the long term forecase on this one. We want some input for the down the road "what if" and possible issues". Do you honestly think you wouldn't gather valuable data and ideas that you cannot see? Of course you would. In doing that, we would all stop hating the fact that we don't even know where this game is going and actually spend some money prepping for it. Think about that.
This whole not buying goods thing. Ok, you said you guys didn't anticipate some people playing the way they do. Admit it, either the design team was not good at thier job of creating a balance, or you are trying to find a way of making a profit from a bad planning structure. Either way, it's ok to say such. If anything, it adds a level of humble humility to say these things out loud and want to change it for the better of ALL.
Communication ..... I don't know if the management there is limiting you, or you guys just naturally don't want to be here to deal with it. But, you MUST be more of a presence on the message boards. I assume it's part of your job, so we are only asking that you DO YOUR JOB, ok? Add us in the fold and be a part of us. Make us feel as though our money is spent on a product and people who believe in us as we believe in you. Like I said, clearly what you are doing is not working. Try something different.
Algorythm.... Fine, a style of play is not leading down a path you desire. In order to get something ( which we want to give. Read : money ) you have to give something. ASK US WHAT WE THINK. Let us be your test bed instead of surprises and ignoring for sake of just doing things. In my business, I'd kill for a group that pays me and makes my product better in order to pay me more. You would be fools not to take advantage of that.
Graphical design team..... DEMAND you be allowed to be more creative. You guys are really onto something with the sounds of the boat, island music, etc. I've heard nothing but positive and we all like what you do. Stand up and demand you be allowed to go deeper into that. Add a .wav file of a moo when a cowshed is harvested. An oink when pigs are getting clicked. Give some different decorations even if they are the same value and size. You people keep it fresh and interesting. DO MORE OF IT.
CFO.... I can't stress this enough. We want to increase your profits and spend MORE on this game. Give the people something to spend it on. I understand it's a business, we all do. We're not stupid. Toss in a bonus of 200% within the structure. Make a prize here and there to drive competition and desire. Look at the way the world works, even in your own back yard. Would you buy a Mercedes from Stuttgart if the model never changes or gives something new to buy? Pattern yourself against some of the world's most lucrative businesses and do what they do. Mc Donald's, DuPont, Daimler, Boeing. They all equally find ways to make us want to buy new product by instituting "new value". Yes, it's a business. A proper and successful business has a "loss leader" in the mix. You have NONE.
It starts with presence and grows in positive direction from there. You need better customer service and it has to start immediately. Timo/Latten, get together with marketing and tease us a little better. Let us know the wonderful things we should start saving up for. Make us WANT it instead of making us regret we bought your product in the first place. After that, CFO/accounting steps in and peppers the deal with ways to spend money that help you in the name of LONGEVITY, not short term sales. Design and programming steps in with fresh changes helped along by your suggestive team within the paying community and wraps it up. Return back to the beginning and keep doing it. 3 easy simple steps which you do not do.
In closing, we are BEGGING you to change your business model a little bit here. We're doing it because we want to keep putting more money in your pockets. Ignore us, and we will find a different product to invest in. It's a competitive world out there. Gaming is even more cut throat. Be the ones to take the crown, or be the jester. It's your choice.
Justin who? ~ Nikki Sixx
-Y
It all boils down to this "we the buying clients feel we are not getting a viable product of value and wish it to be that way. We are willing to help and wish to be heard" I guess would sum it up.
We feel lost.
We feel cheated
We feel we can help
We feel unheard
We feel our money is better spent elsewhere at this current rate
the end.
Justin who? ~ Nikki Sixx
something is very wrong here
instead they will be losing gold spenders
FarmerAlexia, thank you for showing us all that this is NOT a rumor, but a FACT. It's like some kind of horrible nightmare! How can they do this to our game?! I left the image in the quote because EVERYONE needs to see this! X(
I just want to say that people multiaccount all the time and get away with it. They lie to support and tell them the accounts are for different people in the same household. They use multiple emails to back their lies up. Why I don't really know, seems silly to me as well, but it does happen quite a bit.
I'm torn between two feelings here:
1. taking the next plane to Hamburg and start something there (like.. you know.. a close encounters of the third kind).
2. taking the next tab to Google and find something there (like.. you know.. another game?)
What do you advice, my suffering brothers?