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no you do not need to cpmplete the chapters to get the horses
I am quite disgusted at the deviousness the G.S. team has shown in creating this island farm. To be able to have for instance, the number of Peacock coops and fields required for some of the side quests and then upgrade them fully is only possible to do if you spend lots of gold and invest in gold buildings or decos. This is disgraceful of them to pressure people in to a gold spending position like this when the farm is only temporary.
My enjoyment of the island has sour enormously after calculating this. I absolutely refuse to invest in buying all gold items until they make it permanent. X(
If anyone thinks I am complaining unjustly, please have a look at my island farm on Australian server and tell me if there is any other way to gain the 76 population I am short on other than wasting gold on gold items. If anyone does have a better way it would be most welcome.
I don't understand why people say it's a money drain but only because it lasts for a month. Since it's so expensive the fact that it only lasts a month is a good thing. Why would anyone want to permanently funnel money to the island?
In case you genuinely don't understand: because the buildings, plots of land and upgrades all cost a fortune. The production costs would be the only thing that would go on once all the buildings, upgrades and purchases had been made. You'd not have to funnel money into rebuying and rebuilding them if they were permanent. So you only permanently funnel money into it the way it is now, ie. disappearing.
No one can reallly "complete" the event until we know the final stage - The Horse ranch.
Clearly the island seems to be an extrememly expensive event with no obvious benefit to our main farms, but until we see what happens in the final stage, it is impossible to say whether it is a huge money pit or the best investment ever.
It may well be that those people who have spent so many millions on their islands, end up with massive benefits on the horse ranch, that translate back into profits.
All we can do is play the event the best we can for our own individual circumstances with the limited info that we have this time around.
Afterall, if you think about it, what sense would it make for GGBF to go to all the time & trouble creating such a huge event, that is going to be repeated over & over, if it was just the money drain that it "appears" to be, because no one would play it the 2nd time it appeared.
So it stands to reason there will be something in the final stage that is going to make people want to do it again.
The island is clearly a money pit and can only be played in a somewhat efficient way, with gold. Otherwise, your running cost will sky rocket and you won't have place for enough decos to compensate. I have spent so far 130M on that Island and I'm only landed at the final task of Book #2. All that for an event that lasts only 1 month and where everything will go to waste once time is up. Like a lot of people, I find the cost to be abusive and also, I do not wish to ever do this event again. But...
GGS planned it well my friends. Everything is tied together. The Horse ranch requires horse shoes and from what I have seen from the Boat, it will require a LOT of them. Just look at how much the boat gives you for fruits grown in the Greenhouse. In order to grow those fruits, you need shells to buy the seeds from the Green Pickup truck... and what do you need to get shells? The Island! So from what I understand so far, anyone that would decide to forfeit the Island will also have to kiss goodbye the Horse Ranch from lack of horse shoes. It's as simple as that.
And is it just me or this game is becoming more and more complex and not that much fun to play? Not to mention the fact that GGS is again implementing schemes to sort of twist our arms to buy gold in order to "make it happen". I'll be honest, at first I thought that the Island was a breath of fresh air. But when I discovered that it costs so much and that the only way you can have a somewhat viable Island is by pouring out lots of gold, I was disgusted... again!
EDIT: Just completed Book 2 and took a peek at what the tasks are on first stage of book#3. It is just insane. I would have to remove decos again to put more houses in order to complete it. So far, final cost of Book 1 & 2 : 140M Needles to say that I will not do book #3 and that this money scam has done more than enough harm. Can you imagine the Telescope I could have gotten with 140M? a +100 or something like that... in 7 days.
Instant Ocean
The sandcastles are just for completing the chapter tasks, they are not the final purpose of the island or the event, which is collecting shells & converting them to horseshoes, to ultimately be used for the Horse Ranch.
For all we know, the more horseshoes you get, the better horse you can get, maybe better feed or a better trainer, maybe there will be horse racing or other events with cash prizes & the people that took a risk & spent millions on the island will win back even more than they spent, because they have a kickass racehorse.
All I am saying is that we don`t know what is in store for us with the horse ranch & until we do, its a bit premature for people to assume they wasted money by spending on the island..... Of course that may turn out to be the case, but for now it doesn`t hurt to be optimistic. ^^
But it really CAN be played without gold. Tomorrow I'll finish chapter 3, and I didn't spend a single gold coin on it.
I don't say that it was easy, but very exciting:
- it took a lot of time for building, demolishing and most important planning
- I spent a huge amount of dollars, over 150M (not a problem for a high level, and all 3 chapters are only for high levels - it's important to understand)
- I will not complete all building tasks (for example all my Peacocks and Lemurs are 1 level) - no need and no profit.
But as I see and count sandcastles worth my spendings. And I hope that shells (as an additional reward) will benefit me in future )
What about next island events? It depends on the news about horse ranch, but I know that I can get enough shells with half expansion plots, minimum buildings and only Summer Slush from Bar.
Thanks, GGS )
I agree! I was optimistic about the island and thought it was really nice but after dumping millions into it without really getting anywhere I'm not very happy. Now that we're going to have more upgrades on the flower farm its just getting to be too much! This game is starting to feel more like a full time job rather than something fun. The gold pushing is getting too extreme so I've decided I will not purchase anymore gold. I don't plan on playing the island farm again unless it becomes permanent. As far as I'm concerned GGS can keep the ship, island & horses too! I'm not going to let a game stress me out. I will walk away first.
Way too complicated.
The nice thing is that I can still play, and still contribute to my coop's success without any of that.
Hey bro,
Not so sure man... You are making a lot of assumptions on the possible gains you will make. Also, although what you say in your intro is totally true (one does not need to complete all the tasks to get through), you do mention that even using that strategy, you have dished out over 150M and you are not even done yet, close, but not done. You also rightfully mention that the amount of money required to make it to the end is strictly reserved for the high level players like you and I. Lower level players have NO hope to get it, unless they take out that VISA and buy with gold... and even then. Does it really make sense to dish out that amount of real money on something you know for a fact will be destroyed and have no clue on the benefits you get in return on your investment. To me, that is bad and risky business.
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About the Horse race and by doing the Island to the max, you will get a kick ass horse... Well, if that thing is the case, GGS will again favor the gold spenders over the regular players... which seems to be their new gimmick! The more this game evolves, the more it favors the gold spenders and ppl that have a large disposable income and are willing to transfer some of it to Germany. It is quite ironic to read in all the papers all over the world that Germany is sorta imposing an austerity policy that affects all Europe. Maybe GGS and Angela are friends and we are funding their social services? LMAO!
All jokes asides... this game is not turning for the better and if it continues, I foresee a mass movement out of it for another game that will not treat the players like money cows and milk us dry. If only they would be a bit more transparent about it and let us all know WHY we should dish out the $$, whether game or gold. No... they rather surprise us. The less funny part is that most of the time, those surprises please only a fraction of players, if at all.
Enough ranting...
Instant Ocean
Proud Leader of Funny Times... most probably the smallest co-op to ever make it to rank #15 with only 12 members!!! So eat your heart out all of you detractors of mine... you all know who you are.
In the 70's we had the Brady Bunch.... now we have the Greedy Bunch! The future is not always a synonym of improvement... GGS is a living proof. They are just a bunch of greedy, mercantile, money hungry group with only one thing in mind that they try to cover up with what they call "New Features".
Let's just say I'm far from being impressed and also far from buying it.
IO
I don't always like all new things, but i can ignore them. Like the island... just growing oranges...
So what, i can play this game like i want to. No one us telling me, how i should play.
( If they are greedy or not, i can play free, i don't buy gold so they cannot have my money)
But i must say thank you for gold buyers. Without them, maybe we don't have big farm
If only they gave us a forum, where players could voice their opinions and make suggestions! :whistling:
I totally agree. I'm not as far as you are Volty (I'm about to complete step 2 of Chapter 3), but I think I might make it. Without gold.
Yes, it swallowed up a huge amount of farm dollars, but what else was I gonna do with them? When I started on the island I sat on 65 million of them. Every day I donated a few million to my coop (more than we needed for the shrinking list of research projects left). My farms were more or less built up and I was getting bored. REALLY BORED.
The island has been a challenge, but a fun one. Finally I got to figure out again where to put my resources first, what to build, which side tasks to follow --- and which ones to ignore. My strategy was quite different than yours, but I spent about the same amount of money. With it I bought all the land and leveled up most of the fields/orchards/pens/processing facilities. With 14 houses leveled to the max I'm at only -19% happiness, but so what? Now, that the land grab is over I once again generate more cash than I can use.
And now, that I'm about to have big enough a stash of coconuts to complete the upcoming main tasks I can look at which things to keep, which ones to take down and concentrate on a cash out strategy.
I can imagine that it has been frustrating for lower level players to realize that they will not be able to complete all three chapters. But durn, neither can they expect to be producing fruit cake or honey cream right away. I know I didn't. In my opinion bf is all about developing a strategy that fits your needs, your level and your style. With or without gold it can be loads of fun.
PS: I tore down my Island but I liked the idea of chapters in it
Why is it that there is always a post like this one when players express their annoyances about the directions the game is taking?
I continue to play because I have placed an enormous time investment, and real money investment into Big Farm. But rest assured, if they deviate too much more, I will take my time and real money elsewhere. If there is a critical mass who leave your question would become something like, "Why won't you please stay?"
Field - level 3 - 1050 shells
Field - level 4 - 5100 shells
Fancy House - level 2 - 1200 shells
Banana Orchard - level 2 - 1050 shells
Coconut Orchard - level 3 - 2100 shells
I hope this helps.
BTW, I really liked doing the Island Farm. It was really expensive and I did use gold but worth it in the end. My other 3 farms don't take up that much time anymore so having another farm that you get to build up from scratch was a lot of fun. I was lucky to have the money it needed. I will definitely do it again next time. Now I am really looking forward to the horses.
Cheers!