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Mission, speedy gonzales or cheat code?

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  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 28.05.2014
    Honestly, it just looked like Daytona didn't like how hopeless it could be going up against gold users, which I don't blame her, but she didn't actually say anything bad about them. Just clarified some of what the OP said when people seemed to misunderstand.

    It's fine to be offended, but if she didn't actually say anything mean, being mean is uncalled for.

    If that is how you see it then hey you know what they say, opinions are like noses everybody has one.
  • mpalazzompalazzo Posts: 6
    edited 28.05.2014
    I sometimes use gold during missions so that I can get certificates faster, and sometimes I don't. I can understand that being so far out-played by someone using gold is frustrating. It is more fun if the race is close :). I wouldn't be apposed to having some random "no gold" missions. I do buy gold but would like to get more than 1 certificate per mission when I don't use it.
    Maybe that's the key to a resolution? A set number of certificates for each placement. As far as I understand it, the number of certificates earned currently depends on how much less you collected compared to the 1st place player (please correct me if I'm wrong). I've come in 5th out of 6 players and still only got 1 certificate. It would have been nice to get 2 or 3.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 28.05.2014
    Actually, I think running no-gold missions would help. They could have a lower yield to help promote non-gold users to enter the gold-okay missions, but still give those who have no ability to even place well against gold users a fighting chance.
  • GeorgenollieUseGeorgenollieUse Posts: 1,801
    edited 28.05.2014
    Actually, I think running no-gold missions would help. They could have a lower yield to help promote non-gold users to enter the gold-okay missions, but still give those who have no ability to even place well against gold users a fighting chance.

    The only issue I see with no-gold missions is basically this is shutting off GGS revenue for half hour on how many players choose it . . . since there is no easy way to distinguish between using gold for mission and using gold for the other normal activities you are doing during the mission . . . I don't see GGS doing this. And if the player keeps continuing choosing a no-gold mission over and over again then that player's gold spending would be shut down for the entire time they are doing missions (and as some players have quoted - they do missions six hours straight which is probably the whole time they are in the game). No-gold missions just don't make sense when your business depends on selling gold.
  • rhinanarhinana Posts: 561
    edited 28.05.2014
    Another problem is that despite "no gold" missions people will still win by using super seeds and hummus (as some examples). Then a call for "no hummus" or "no super seeds" missions will inevitably arise. Its a slippery slope to start banning certain aspects of the game and not others.

    The easiest thing to do is close your little mission window and play for yourself. This has been mentioned several times by different players and I wholeheartedly recommend it.

    Forget about where you place compared to others, there will always be someone more advanced or with better strategy or whatever somewhere out there. Just play for yourself and you will find missions much more enjoyable.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 28.05.2014
    There isn't? You can't just make it so the no-gold option only applies to buildings that are at the very least associated with that particular mission?

    I was also thinking there could be a limit to how many of these missions could be played at any one time.

    Rhinana, gold isn't easily accessible by everyone, but superseeds and such are. I see no reason to cut those out.
  • rhinanarhinana Posts: 561
    edited 28.05.2014
    There isn't? You can't just make it so the no-gold option only applies to buildings that are at the very least associated with that particular mission?

    I was also thinking there could be a limit to how many of these missions could be played at any one time.

    Rhinana, gold isn't easily accessible by everyone, but superseeds and such are. I see no reason to cut those out.

    Ok so then I use all my gold to stock up on super hummus and super seeds (via water), then I win all my missions using my gold bought fertile fields. (PS this is hypothetical)

    Do you see my point? Eliminating the use of gold during the actual mission will not eliminate people totally whooping other players during missions. People use other means to win and someone will always find some aspect of this unfair.

    GeorgenollieUse also has a really good point regarding GGS's business model.

    I'd like to add that some people save and save their earned gold specifically to use in situations like missions. Shutting off gold for those players would be quite unfair as that gold is accessible to everyone.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 28.05.2014
    Actually...I just checked the fertile fields and it says that level 7 fertile and level 7 normal both harvest special flower seeds for the same amount. Is that a glitch?
    Do you see my point? Eliminating the use of gold during the actual mission will not eliminate people totally whooping other players during missions. People use other means to win and someone will always find some aspect of this unfair.

    Nah, not really.
  • rie222rie222 Posts: 1,074
    edited 28.05.2014
    Rie, it wasn't the number that was the problem, it was the fact that the player seemed to default with it the second the mission started because of how long it takes for each field to be individually harvested. It seemed impossibly fast one could harvest all those fields in the time it took to refresh and see the players.

    And I agree, it's suspicious. But not necessarily cheating. It's possible it's just a very fast computer/internet connection.

    Hi Wildcard,
    Are you saying that this individual was in two separate missions and earned 3k or more wildflowers back to back? then yes they most likely pushed with gold if that is what your saying...Wildflowers don't take that long either. And not that much to push...you can wait through most a mission then push right at the end. For some this doesn't cost a lot..To each their own. I wouldn't be suspiscous of anyone who had over 3k in one mission then 3k in another either. I would just think they used gold. Take care.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 28.05.2014
    I don't think you're really comprehending what's being said, Rei...
  • jules314 (US1)jules314 (US1) US1 Posts: 399
    edited 28.05.2014
    Like someone posted before, making limitations on missions will just make it really complicated. No gold, no humus, no super feed type of restrictions just won't work. Wouldn't this end up with the creation of "mass production farms" again? It could create another awful mess of happiness formulas being changed on us because Big Farm didn't want this to be part of the gamers' strategies.Then we'll be on the forums upset about another update to the game related to mass-production farms in response to restricted missions :(

    And the farms still exist. I went up against a player today for an egg mission. I have 4 chicken and 4 duck coops (just don't have room or workers for more) and the person that crushed the competition has 30 chicken and 8 duck coops, all of them above level 5. The cows sheds and goat stable numbers are similar. No pigs or donkeys. Cheater? No, golder? It's possible, the farm has only gold purchased houses.

    Decorations? Well nice of you to ask. On the main farm it's 1 duck pond, maxed out gate and fence and a level 7 dog house. This strategy still exists. People will still blow away the competition without gold, without preparing but with farms that are just running on whatever the highest running costs are. And they are winning missions too. I think I might of gone off point. I hope I didn't. I guess I am just making a new point that it's not cheating, it's the way people play. And it is blowing the competition away to the point that being in a mission isn't fun. Placing 4th, 5th or 6th all the time isn't all that exciting. But in a way you get to play for free by choosing not to spend gold, and the people that win 1st, 2nd or 3rd will keep funding the game. I buy gold, I use it occasionally for missions but more for expansions and decorations and an unfortunate gold mine upgrade :(

    Unfortunately people who choose to run mass-production farms or spend gold on missions will just make getting 1st place a rare occurrence for non-gold users, but that is how it seems to be structured. But when you do come first in a mission, and not spend a cent, it will be an awesome feeling, no? It can happen if you prepare for missions.
  • rie222rie222 Posts: 1,074
    edited 28.05.2014
    I don't think you're really comprehending what's being said, Rei...

    I get it they click fast Wildcard...
  • aaabbb1 (INT1)aaabbb1 (INT1) INT1 Posts: 1,049
    edited 28.05.2014
    Hmm, it would be very hard to harvest all fields, saw them again, gold push them and harvest them again just in five seconds (as george calculated, even with superhumus it would take two harvests).

    I think wildcard was near the answer. There can be some inconherence between the server clock and local clock, so 5 seconds was probably not 5 seconds but a little bit more than that. That is what came up mine mind first :).

    Nevertheless, it was good that Jim posted the question. He actually never acused anyone of cheating. He just said that it was the first idea that crossed his mind. And he got some good advice how to finish mission sucessfully. And by sucessfully I mean to get as much certificates out of it as possible, because that is acctually the only thing that counts :).
  • rie222rie222 Posts: 1,074
    edited 28.05.2014
    Perhaps a CM would like to comment on how it can be counted then??? I just clicked pretty quick. It is being counted very fast. There are a lot of glitches in the game ...could it possible for another glitch Yes..does it mean someone is cheating though? highly doubtful...I would think there is a glitch way before I would think there is someone cheating.
  • Latten (DE1)Latten (DE1) Posts: 6,246
    edited 28.05.2014
    Trust me - players do this - if the mission they get does not have to do with wildflowers they just wait until the 30 minutes is over with and try again - and if it is eggs or dung they probably have those buildings waiting too. Wildflowers comes up pretty regular so it is given that it will come up soonish. I personally cannot let my fields go unharvested that long - I get impatient. My "planning" usually goes like - hey, duck eggs are coming up in five minutes let's try a mission . . . dang got wildflowers. :) I could wait after I do the wildflower mission is over with and see if I get eggs but I usually don't. The best time I am situated is when I log in first thing in the morning and I start a mission immediately before harvesting anything. That way if either corn or wildflowers come up I have empty fields (unless I was lucky enough to grow special corn overnight). And all of my dung and eggs are ready to harvest.

    Yeah Imma go with this one.
  • Bweatherholt (US1)Bweatherholt (US1) Posts: 359
    edited 28.05.2014
    Wildcard, My point is. Don't point the finger unless you know for a fact. Obviously the accusation of cheating gets under my skin. You win some and you don't. Point is, its a game, it has to be paid for somewhere. So if i use 100k gold and beat someone by a landslide. Well whose business is it other than mine? Its MY money that i use so OTHERS don't see ads right? So thats my point.
  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 28.05.2014
    Agree, you lose some and you win some. If people would spend more time reevaluating their playing strategy and stop assuming they are losing because someone else is cheating or only winning by using gold then they could improve their strategy. It just seems even when you are playing in missions within a reasonable farm level to the other players and happen to have timed things well and maybe had a better setup for that particular mission, you still are cheating either with gold (which is not cheating) or some other form of cheating because you did soo much better then the others. It just gets old when people resort to negative accusations as to why others are doing well in missions and they are not. It's this type of sore loser mentality that runs rampant throughout the forum so yeh, many of us are offended by it and understandably sick of it.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 28.05.2014
    This conversation doesn't seem to be going anywhere. It just keeps going around and around in circles. The original question was answered...do threads like this get locked? If so, can it be locked?
  • DeAnna777 (US1)DeAnna777 (US1) Posts: 148
    edited 28.05.2014
    Welcome to the internet where others have opinions that are not always reflective of your own. Doesn't mean a thread should be locked because you don't like those opinions nor find them worthy of discussion. This thread was started based on suspicious activity observed by a player regarding missions, gold use and cheating was in question. The topic of the thread was "Missions, Speedy Gonzales or Cheat Code?".....everyone has responded with opinions based on those key points made by the OP.
    But let me get this straight... in your opinion the discussion is going nowhere so you go and "resurrect" the very thread that your requesting be locked that was already migrating half way down the forum page...ahem!!
  • rie222rie222 Posts: 1,074
    edited 28.05.2014
    lol please close the thread we don't agree...
  • KingGamer82 (US1)KingGamer82 (US1) Posts: 44
    edited 30.05.2014
    :huh:i do it to..................its the only way to get a jump
  • Jiesta (NL1)Jiesta (NL1) Posts: 6,557
    edited 01.06.2014
    This conversation doesn't seem to be going anywhere. It just keeps going around and around in circles. The original question was answered...do threads like this get locked? If so, can it be locked?

    Love your posts and especially agree with this one, Wildcard!! THX for keeping things civil and positive! It amazes me over and over again how fast some people react negatively/aggressively to a simple question.
  • Wildcard999Wildcard999 Posts: 967
    edited 02.06.2014
    Jiesta wrote: »
    Love your posts and especially agree with this one, Wildcard!! THX for keeping things civil and positive! It amazes me over and over again how fast some people react negatively/aggressively to a simple question.[/ QUOTE]

    :)

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