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I just checked mine, it's not turning either, a couple of our co-op member complained earlier in the week that there's weren't turning either.
Bug I think.
George
Exactly!!!!! very frustrating trawling 60+ pages seeking answers to pass onto my co-op & half the time the info is incorrect or dates changed)
But we are waiting for higher selling prices after the "DELAYED" update.
Because no one bothered to check the math with a one dollar calculator! Players quickly figured out the bakery looses money. But the game programers, who are paid to do this right, could not?
Graphics issues are somewhat expected. But the math? Come on.
That's why.
And no this is not "the worst thing going down in your world" either. It's a game. Just a game. But one I have already invested many countless hours working on, as have a lot of people. Suddenly removing what you thought you were building up (and for many spent real money to do so) is a drag. But this will never be elevated to "the worst thing..." Ever. If I walked away from this whole thing right now it would effect my life not one bit.
I'd still like to play with things that actually function. And I came here to find out IF... and if not WHEN it would be fixed. First it was "next week." Then Monday. Then Wed. The last post was "Thursday." Well it's been Thursday. Maybe later today? Tomorrow? Next week? We don't know our designers are still in first grade learning basic addition? What do I pass along to my coops?
The bakery math is rather bizarre. At least one of the managers in here has alluded to the fact that ggs actually has a "team" in charge of game balance. Pretty much all they do is evaluate such aspects of the game and assign appropriate values. In my company they would at best be cleaning restrooms this week, former duties reassigned. That's gotta be embarrassing from a corporate standpoint. But yes, it's still a game and if it gets to the point where it elevates my stress level in any way, shape or form I move on to better things.
You could walk away from this whole thing right now but you won't. The stress is too endearing. I reckon you won't send GGS your resume either.
The watermill is something that will be fixed with the update. There are many different things that can be produced on the Gourmet Farm now. You just have to rebuild them that is why everyone got money back from their original items removed on the Gourmet Farm and they gave you 1/2 the construction time to build everything back up for a week. Personally I think there is a lot more things you can produce now on the gourmet farm then there was before.
The Bakery will be fixed after the new update is put through which will make the bakery worth using to.
I'm not sure what the red crosses mean, maybe someone else can help you with that.
Everyone is having this issue. The update that will happen soon will fix that and we will all be able to enjoy the new Water Mill animated!!
At the moment, enjoy your "flower farm" and in "gourment farm" just have few buildings, just for fun, not for money.
*raises hand* I'm not! I disabled animations, and my Water Mill is turning ahahaha *sob* the game in a nutshell?
Haha yeah, I had something similar with my donkeys. They're animated when my animations are turned off! Maybe the on/off switch is borked?
NO, I'd be overqualified. I can add.
But can you create undead donkeys? Now that's REAL talent.
Hey thaddeus5,
please mouse over the small crates in the recipe section of the bakery's info window and compare the values shown there for the current stage with the preceding stages.
You will notice that you need less goods for each recipe, which is a difference, isn't it.
It may not be very apparant at first, but there is a change in each level of the bakery. ^^
Regards,
Steffi
its just that the money it makes is little by little during the day, that's why some players feel like its not earning anything i think.
only peach is useless atm, but nafaru said that'll hopefully get fixed later on too, so i think ggs is doing great honestly.
keep up the good work guys
i really appreciate all these new updates even if they have some small bugs and downsides (which hopefully will get fixed in time)
I don't think a 2.5% decrease in goods for each level is very generous. :huh: How about 5%?
I think it will be worth it in the long run if you run the other numbers. Let's take the fruit cake recipe. (These numbers are based off of my co-ops completed research so your numbers may be different).
Level 1 Recipe
1600 Milk @ 31 Farm Dollars = 49,600
600 Peaches @ 100 Farm Dollars = 60,000
700 Cherries @ 180 Farm Dollars = 126,000
Profit of Selling all ingredients separately = 235,600
Level 7 Recipe -
1360 Milk @ 31 Farm Dollars = 42,160
510 Peaches @ 100 Farm Dollars = 51,000
595 Cherries @ 180 Farm Dollars = 107,100
Profit of Selling all ingredients separately = 200,260
Profit from batch of fruit cakes (with new bakery amounts coming Monday) -
400 Fruit Cakes @ 680 Farm Dollars = 272,000
Profit from Level 1 Bakery = 36,400
Profit from Level 7 Bakery = 71,740
Yes, that is only an increase of 35,340 but run the recipe 10 times and you show an increase profit of 353,400. And this is without any research done on the gourmet farm so it is just going to improve as my co-op does more research.
I realize that I did not add in running cost but regardless of which level I run the running cost is going to be identical so the ratio of profit will stay the same between the two buildings.
Edit - additional thought: And truthfully the ingredients you did not use in level 7 recipe were sold individually making your profit equal 70,680 for using the Level 7 bakery on one batch of fruit cakes.
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With the research that a co-op does in the gourmet farm and main farm, your profits go up at the bakery. This argument does not make any sense.
fruitcake 15% apple pie 10% muffins 10% turnovers 5% and of course all 0% for no cooperative
Selling prices
eggs $20 and $12, apples $56 and $44, milk $35 and $25, cherries $225 and $180, peaches $100 and $100,
almonds $90 and $50, fruitcake $620 and $620, apple pie $360 and $360, muffins $260 and $260,
turnovers $220 and $220
Running costs -90%
Profit/Loss per production for a Level 6 bakery
fruitcake $44,950 and $49,200, apple pie $1,260 and $11,180, muffins $9,465 and $9,325,
turnovers $-2,395 and $7,165
Don't tell me that argument doesn't make any sense when the only thing that doesn't make more money is the muffins.
Thanks for the numbers and your thoughtful analysis! I still think the ingredient reduction is a bit unreasonable. I believe the cost of the level 7 bakery is something like $30M. So we would have to make fruit cake 425 times, or 142 days around the clock to break even. :S I won't be upgrading this baby much.
exactly.
i agree with this post completely, there's just 2 downsides still though.
1- lvl 5, 6 and 7 bakery just costs way too much (for what it gives)
2- ingredient researches and recipes researches seem to be decreasing profit if be done together rather than upping the profit. so a change in researches maybe be a good idea later.
p.s. I do not agree with the ppl who think new gourmet is not earning good money, actually if do the calculations properly considering all profits, direct and indirect (such as more fertilizer (1 more apple orch in mf), more humus (alvera can make better profit than tomatoes now instead, feeding chicks and cows are way easier with super seeds and humus, etc ), easier/more honey cream, easier/more scented oil, and etc ) this new gourmet has the potential to earn more than the old one actually (but it might take more effort and investment too ofc, not very crazy though, if you know what to up and when to up it)