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Re. the co-op missions, I happen to have read 88+ pages discussion on that and it seems that there had been only complaints about those (before they were taken away, ie. before my time)
Cat Adams- I agree with you on this.
I do like the missions never have but that is my choice, just like it is the choice of those who do like them and want to do them. I have coop members who like them & they like the challenge of the mission or competition of the missions. That's great I'm happy they enjoy them. That part is totally fair this issue with the missions should have been addressed months ago last year. So now I have to do missions just to save what little bit of reputation points that I do have? This is so not fair. Why should I have to participate in an event that I don't like/want to do/? When I would rather spend my time working my farm/running my newborn coop/figuring out how to make money so I can purchase upgrades/additions to my farms or better yet be able to donate money to my newborn coop. Wow. Its bad enough you keep rolling out these upgrades/new pastry farm/more bugs & issues on top of the bugs and issues from the weeks before. Then we have to wait 2 weeks for: "Bugfixes
Missing water mill animations were added to the game
Goat animations should work again and ducks will be shown, even if animations are turned off
Missing water and breeding seeds can now be purchased again in the nursery.
Bakery recipes will now give experience points as well
Some gourmet farm tasks were displayed in the wrong level. They have been adjusted."
This is just all over the place, start with one thing/item complete it then move on to the next. Before you throw that NEW Improved Mission out there, doesn't it make more sense to fix the issues of the pastry farm first? We all would like to have those issues/bugs fixed an sorted out before adding something else. I get that there needs to be weekly server maintenance/upgrades/tweaks/bug fixes, that is a given we all get that. But shouldn't those issues from the last weeks past be addressed and resolved before throwing more things out there. We all would like to really really start using our pastry maker & would really really like to make some profits from it (speaking from a very low level coop). We would also like to see additional recipes, we went from 10 recipes to 4 none of which are that amazing its just pies and a muffin. What are the customers who are supposed to be seated out front of this pastry shop suppose to drink? Duck water? Oh they took the seating area.
It would be great if the ducks & donkeys got a reduction in feed as well as the time to make and grow feed. 7 hours to grow some lettuce really, that's as long as it takes the cows to decide its time for them to be harvested/milked (which by the way is a very long time, its a wonder the cows don't explode). The whole feed/growing feed/milling feed and feeding the ducks/donkey is really off and a bit high. Why can't the donkey eat wheat the cows eat? Talk about picky.
I am trying to get used to this pastry shop cause its not a gourmet farm in the least. But, I am still not sure if/how I will make any profits from it let alone be able to do any upgrades. Instead of giving us an upgrade we got a downgrade because we totally lost our restaurant for what is now considered a bakery/restaurant/dairy all in one. Which I still haven't seen a milkshake, the magic crust that makes the pies, the magic sugar which goes into the pies/muffins/cupcakes, the dairy which makes the frosting/icing/filling for the pies/muffins/cakes.
By the way since those little people that walk around on my farm crying about the need for more decos to make them happy... tell them to stay out of the mega watt deco tower dreaming about things I can't afford to buy, stay on the fields and look at the things that I have given them to look & be happy about that, and if they are so unhappy tell them to eat some of those tasteless recipes in the pastry shop.... I bet they change their attitudes then.
Oh and another thing, please consider the players when you decide to do the scheduled weekly maintenance/server updates....please please do them when there isn't any events going on. It would go off so much easier, give it a try for a few weeks and see how it goes. Isn't that what we were asked to do with the demolition of the gourmet farm to pastry/bakery... try it for a while and see how it goes. So that's what we have been doing trying it.
I think the upgrade is awsome and that you guys (and gals ) should be congradulated 100%. I stopped doing missions a while ago due to the mismatching, BUT NOW!! Watch this space for the flying Kiwi lol. Again well done team. Also gormet farm is going well and was worth the update another tick for GGS
Good and Prosperus Farming everybody
Hi EnochNoch
Here in New Zealand a lot of our cows are milked on a 9 to 12 hour Roster and some are only once a day so 7hrs doesn't seem unreasonable
Cheers
Post edited by Kat Nip: Merged posts, please use the edit button
As for reputation points they served no purpose to begin with anyway so offering them up as a reward isn't an incentive at all, a bit pointless really.
Hi Tony- oh gosh they may get the idea to change the cows now lol. It will be like those 14 hour peaches. I get it sorry, I was meaning that it takes 7 hours for the cows to be milked and it takes a long time to make feed for the donkeys, while the ducks lay eggs in 8 hours. Which making feed for them takes a bit longer to, but you do grow more feed for the ducks versus the donkeys. Until I can see a profit or figure out how to make a profit, I'm stuck at 1 donkey level 1, 1 duck level and 2 goats level 2, 4 fields 2 level 2 & 2 level 3 fields which isn't much. But I guess better than nothing huh. It's gonna take millions to upgrade and add to the pastry farm, but I'm going to try and see next week which now gives me more time to try and stock the pastry shop up. Besides I haven't upgraded the pastry shop, that's another gazillion lol.
The way I see it working is that all the gold users are going to go hell for leather and eventually be paired up against each other at the top of the leader board all using/wasting gold to be top dog.
For me I did missions purely to have some small challenge to do during the course of my normal farming. I never once had a mission where I was paired with a player near the same level or rep points. Then sometimes I felt guilty being paired with lower levels who had no hope of winning (unless they used gold of course). I have on the odd occasion just stopped harvesting so at least a lower level player could actually win a mission. And in reality the difference was only 3 or 4 xp points. I remember what it was like when at a low level trying to win these things.
I like the idea of just joining a mystery mission and whenever I like. The current ones never seem to fit it with the time here in NZ. I guess with the inability to get special seeds going in advance it goes part way to putting everyone on a more level playing field. Of course humus and special fert can always be used if you have it.
So, I shall be looking forward to the update and seeing what it brings me in terms of rewards.
Happy Farming Emm6
While I have no problem with people wasting their gold for the sake of a few xp points and being King Pin - I do have a problem with how the mission groups are made up. I too have been "blown out of the water" in missions which I should quite legitimately have won based on the amount of production facilities compared to opponents.
Although GGS is not separating missions into gold users and non gold users, I do think that how they are going to do the rework of the whole thing will quite quickly separate those players anyway.
So, don't write missions off completely, give them another go after the update and see how you go.
I just want to farm, upgrade, expand, build, harvest.... like that. Keep trying to maintain a balance even with happiness slashed, bakery goods... well who knows since it's still buggy and sitting idol. Two of my farms are poor now. Even though before this great gourmet farm upgrade I had more than enough to upgrade anything should the architect EVER show up. I don't now. (By the way.... how long has it been now? We sure get enough money grabbing pop ups.)
I may try a mission once just to see... but based on the comments here, I'm not impressed.
The bad news - making missions only random, limited to 4 different things, and fixing them at 30 minutes.
The bad news could easily be addressed over the next few weeks however.
1) Give players a choice of whether to have a random mission or a specific one. If you choose random, the rewards are higher.
2) More variety of missions. At least bring back the other ones we currently have now. Also implement missions involving the gourmet farm and even the flower farm.
3) More variations in time of missions besides 30 minutes.
Perhaps in the mission screen we could select the type of mission and also the length we want. We could choose "random" for one or both of these selections. The more random, the higher the reward.
The best thing was the interaction with other co-op's & a "negotiated settlement", where one of the lower ranked co-op members won & everyone else came equal 2nd.
I haven't even looked at 1 since the release of the blue barns.
George
Wow, I haven't done one yet with a "negotiated settlement" with any of the other co-ops. You must be special George
Good luck on this. Might take a looooong while should they decide to listen to your suggestions. As it is, it's taking them two weeks or so just to fix the Bakery prices.
If you don't want to play these missions, don't play them, it is still your choice if you want to play or not.
We will just have to sit and wait if this is an update with a future.
If you scroll through you should be able to find where Latten (IIRC) said that nothing should be lost, neither in barn nor baked goods (but scroll through the gf/bakery thread for his big picture signature).
But in all fairness using gold is a strategic option for everyone in a mission so how is that cheating? You have the same option to use gold and just because you don't doesn't mean the person who does should be looked upon in a negative way and called a cheater when the game is designed to be played that way.
Your sitting there calling people cheaters when up to this point lower level farms have had to unfairly compete with larger level farms such as your's!! and gold may have been a way in some situations for lower levels to be able to be more competitive with larger farms (such as your's) when doing missions. But they are cheaters? I think people who complain about others having an advantage because they bought gold which financially supports this game by the way, are the last people non gold buyers are to be calling cheaters..ehem!!!!:whistling:
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I just finished a 30 minute mission. It was selling milk.
I have 10 cowsheds level 6, my barn holds 2100, also all the boosters, so I thought give it a try.
The player, that was in the mission with me, had 2 level 5 cowsheds and 2 level 6 cowsheds, probably had boosters also, since they use gold.
I collected and sold my milk as soon as the mission started and used no gold. I cleaned out my barn at the end.
My total milk sold was 6806 I won $3,605. I came in 4th
The number one persons total milk sold was 68,000 and they won over $38,000.
Need I say more.
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True - that is the main problem with the current system of missions - with the revamp, in theory the one that sold 68,000 milk will be paired with other people who has done this mission and finished with lets say 60,000 plus milks so all the gold users will be together - you will be paired with people who complete the mission with 6,000 plus milks. They will be creating teams by YOUR personal performance so the gold users can still use gold and non gold users can still play their way but they will not be playing together.
I would just like to point something out, in a sell mission a person could Buy the item they need to sell, and then sell it. So the person that sold 68,000 Milk could have bought all that milk with Farm Dollars to sell.
More then likely the used gold, but someone could be crazy enough to spend $17,000,000 on 68,000 Milk.
~Space~
Yes I do have a large farm and I do buy gold more than I should. I know it supports the game because in order to play the game the people at GGS need to be paid just like you or me when we go to work. Nobody works for free. I am just pointing out that I think that gold should not be used in missions. It is also not just the lower level farmers who are using gold actually it is the higher level farmers who use it. Are you going to tell me that someone who is playing a mission should be allowed to blow others out of the water. I seen it where they go up to 30,000 or more higher than others...is this really fair to do? I think that when people do this they don't really give others a fair shot at winning a mission. This is why I think it is cheating...if people want to spend their gold that is up to them and more power to them...but why do it when their are players who can't afford to buy gold or chose not to in fairness...by the way there are a lot of players who consider it cheating. Also I do have a right to voice my opinion about the subject so don't assume that people are non gold buyers because they think it is not fair to others to use it during missions.