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New Bakery's Revenue

YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
1. Fruit cake with cream
Time: 08:00:00
Serving: 400
Per unit : 620
Revenue: 248,000

2.Apple pie
Time: 03:00:00
Serving: 250
Per unit : 360
Revenue: 90,000

3.Almond muffins
Time: 01:40:00
Serving: 190
Per unit : 260
Revenue: 49,400

4.Apple turnovers
Time: 00:26:00
Serving: 175
Per unit : 220
Revenue: 38,500

oh~ Mazxxx ice cream ($280,000) is disappear!!! I want more products in recipe.
If you want to know the "profits" , you can use above revenue minus (-) running cost and result is your profits for this meal.

please show your experience and let us NOT get "loss" in new bakery , we need your help!!
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  • moriatika (GB1)moriatika (GB1) Posts: 38
    edited 31.03.2014
    why are there items missing from the gourmet farm,not right as these have been paid for now we are having to pay again,why are we getting ripped of
  • Doctor Annie (US1)Doctor Annie (US1) Posts: 91
    edited 31.03.2014
    I just calculated the cost of the ingredients and the only one that is not a loss is fruit cake with cream
  • YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
    edited 31.03.2014
    I just calculated the cost of the ingredients and the only one that is not a loss is fruit cake with cream
    thank you for sharing it !! Annie!!
  • FarmerPJW2FarmerPJW2 Posts: 45
    edited 31.03.2014
    I just calculated the cost of the ingredients and the only one that is not a loss is fruit cake with cream

    Which level bakery? At Level 1, I find that the Almond Muffins are profitable.

    It also makes a difference what co-operative research projects you have completed: if Milk gets a better price on sale, then obviously recipes calling for Milk become less profitable relative to simply selling the Milk. Likewise, if you have research increased production of Apple Turnovers in the new research screen, then these become more profitable.

    In my co-op, we have very nearly completed all the main farm research but have made very little progress on the gourmet farm. The effect is that only the Almond Muffins are profitable in the Level 1 Bakery. At Level 7, only the Apple Turnover is not profitable though Apple Pie is just barely profitable (we net $1,000 for a 6 hour make).

    With enough research and upgrades to the Bakery, eventually everything becomes decently profitable (est. maximum profit figures: $80,000 for Fruit Cake, $20,000 for Apple Pie and Almond Muffins, $6,500 for Apple Turnovers). Obviously, at what point this happens depends on what path you take precisely.

    I started this thinking that GGS might not have thought this through, but in fact it looks really quite well balanced and requires a lot of investigation by players if we want to optimise our output.
  • Jenna (AU1)Jenna (AU1) Posts: 1
    edited 31.03.2014
    Actually the fruit cake with cream is a loss
    400 x 620 = 248000
    56000 (milk) + 60000 (peaches) + 144900 (cherries) = 260900

    Apple pie math is:
    250 x 360 = 90000
    14000 (eggs) + 22500 (almonds) + 72800 (apples) = 109300

    Almond muffins math is:
    190 x 260 = 49,400
    19250 (milk) + 31500 (almonds) = 50750

    Apple turnovers math is:
    175 x 220 = 38,500
    15000 (eggs) + 33600 (apples) = 48600

    So none of them make any more profit than you would get by just selling your produce.
  • GeorgenollieUseGeorgenollieUse Posts: 1,801
    edited 31.03.2014
    Nafaru mentions in another post that if your co-op has most of the main farm researches done and very little of the gourmet researches done it will benefit selling items individually. Once the researches even out, it shows profits. Not sure how accurate this is since my co-op is heavy on main farm and none on gourmet - just throwing it out there in the discussion.
  • montuosmontuos Posts: 1,275
    edited 31.03.2014
    What, if anything, is profitable for players not in co-ops, or in co-ops that have done very little research? Or in other words: should I just go back to bed and catch up on all the sleep I lost over the weekend, or is there anything on the gourmet farm now it will actually profit me to build/upgrade?
  • sylk (NL1)sylk (NL1) Posts: 28
    edited 31.03.2014
    results on products 92% happy

    level
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7
    vruchtentaart -14.135 -7.095 -1.090 5.950 13.355 18.995 25.000
    appeltaart -21.123 -18.323 -15.373 -12.563 -10.093 -7.563 -4.023
    amandelmuffins -1.864 -439 736 1.876 3.211 4.636 6.061
    appelflap -10.408 -9.168 -7.968 -6.728 -5.548 -4.308 -3.068
  • HungarianAngel2HungarianAngel2 Posts: 5
    edited 31.03.2014
    Can someone tell me am I right or not. I can't see any different with products if I updated my bakery. No more products or less time. What's the point to upgrade the bakery then?
  • sylk (NL1)sylk (NL1) Posts: 28
    edited 31.03.2014
    Can someone tell me am I right or not. I can't see any different with products if I updated my bakery. No more products or less time. What's the point to upgrade the bakery then?

    les products but you can better sell them than make other products of them! you will be losing money
  • HungarianAngel2HungarianAngel2 Posts: 5
    edited 31.03.2014
    So it's completely pointless to have that bakery. Great. Just like the sticker book. Thanks for the answer.
  • BobFighter8342BobFighter8342 Posts: 21
    edited 31.03.2014
    Can someone tell me am I right or not. I can't see any different with products if I updated my bakery. No more products or less time. What's the point to upgrade the bakery then?

    Fewer products needed in production

    e.g. Bakery level 1: Fruit cake with cream needs 1600 milk (among other things)
    Bakery level 2: Fruit cake with cream needs 1560 milk
  • HungarianAngel2HungarianAngel2 Posts: 5
    edited 31.03.2014
    Thank you.
  • blablabla6blablabla6 Posts: 32
    edited 31.03.2014
    i hope they change the profits .... i'm going to build my second farm up . And see if i'm going to bake anything
  • YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
    edited 01.04.2014
    please show your experience and let us NOT get "loss" in new bakery , we need your help!!
  • Rinker (US1)Rinker (US1) Posts: 6
    edited 01.04.2014
    is it profitalbe if you have a workshop??
  • Pepper Moon (IN1)Pepper Moon (IN1) Posts: 6,684
    edited 01.04.2014
    Yes, it is profitable. Workshop reduces the amount of goods required for production. Each level workshop reduces the amount of products needed for the production of 5%.

    Level 1: -5%
    Level 2: -10%
    Level 3: -15%
    Level 4: -20%
    Level 5: -25%
  • YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
    edited 02.04.2014
    Yes, it is profitable. Workshop reduces the amount of goods required for production. Each level workshop reduces the amount of products needed for the production of 5%.

    Level 1: -5%
    Level 2: -10%
    Level 3: -15%
    Level 4: -20%
    Level 5: -25%

    Thank you, Manish!!Workshop reduces the amount of goods required for production , so it can help us to reduce cost efficiently.

    There is my farm's data , I want to share with all of you.

    For example : Apple turnovers
    Profit = 175 apple turnover - ingredients (712 eggs + 570 apples) - Running cost

    [Result]

    Research: apple+5% , eggs+33% , milks+24% , almonds+40%
    Running cost -74%

    Level 1 , 2 , 3
    1.Fruit cake with cream
    ingredients :milk + peaches + cherries
    Profit = +8519 ,+14859,+20299

    2. Apple pie
    ingredients :eggs + almonds + apples
    Profit = -1887 , +373, +2761

    3. Almond muffins
    ingredients : milk + almonds
    Profit = +6233 , +7398 , +8361

    4. Apple turnovers
    ingredients: eggs + apples
    Profit = -2070 , -1060 , -82

    So,if you want to produce "Apple turnovers" , you should be careful , because the meal is only one get minus profit.
  • GwynethAngie (US1)GwynethAngie (US1) Posts: 87
    edited 02.04.2014
    Recipe Income -Selling Cost of ingredients is negative for all of the 4 recipes for our coop as well and we have all of the research done except for 5% more units produced (going from 15%-20%) and 6% increase in sell price (unlocks once the 20% is done). Jenna didnt even list the running costs for making the fertilizer, using fertilizer on orchards, and the recipes running cost or it would have been even worse. The good news is Ive heard they are fixing this issue. The only reason I could think of for having a loss after making the recipes would be a substantial XP reward. I dont think it was their intention for the bakery to operate at a loss, I just think it was bad beta testing. With that being said I vote for a 3rd server where you can move/copy your current account to it and help test updates before they are released. Have a direct input box on the server's toolbar where comments, concerns, suggestions can be made. Have unlimited gold and cash so you can properly test everything instead of a zero cost to place or upgrade because this tends to not give an accurate reality of how the game is played. Who seconds me on a 3rd server for beta testing? Trust me GGS, it will save you money in the long run and you wont have to pay those volunteers in house 30 pounds an hour anymore to sit on the couch and apparently not do a whole lot.
  • FarmerPJW2FarmerPJW2 Posts: 45
    edited 02.04.2014
    montuos wrote: »
    What, if anything, is profitable for players not in co-ops, or in co-ops that have done very little research? Or in other words: should I just go back to bed and catch up on all the sleep I lost over the weekend, or is there anything on the gourmet farm now it will actually profit me to build/upgrade?

    Missed this one. My calculations suggested that everything is profitable from Level 1 if you have no research completed (or, equivalently, are not in a co-op).

    Joining a co-op is worth a lot, though, as I calculate that at full research, a top-level Bakery can earn about $10,000 in profit for every hour that it makes Fruit Cake. For profitability, this is much like having an extra Level 5 Apple Orchard at full Apples research.
  • saya1988 (IN1)saya1988 (IN1) Posts: 283
    edited 02.04.2014
    m also regretting abt the amount of cherries , milk n peaches in bakery from where i cant sell them n bound to produce n sell with loss
    :(
  • GeorgenollieUseGeorgenollieUse Posts: 1,801
    edited 02.04.2014
    saya1988 wrote: »
    m also regretting abt the amount of cherries , milk n peaches in bakery from where i cant sell them n bound to produce n sell with loss
    :(
    Just leave them in the bakery until they refigure the prices - which they are working on. Worry about everything else right now. My bakery is staying idle until then.
  • MaebyKnottMaebyKnott Posts: 9
    edited 02.04.2014
    Agreed. I'm not in a co-op and I don't feel like joining one. So, I don't have research completed. I'm just ignoring that farm except for the almond orchard, which I need for the very profitable flower farm.
  • saya1988 (IN1)saya1988 (IN1) Posts: 283
    edited 02.04.2014
    hmm
    m also not making anything in bakery
    :)
  • EricaJ (US1)EricaJ (US1) Posts: 202
    edited 02.04.2014
    Yes, it is profitable. Workshop reduces the amount of goods required for production. Each level workshop reduces the amount of products needed for the production of 5%.

    Level 1: -5%
    Level 2: -10%
    Level 3: -15%
    Level 4: -20%
    Level 5: -25%

    Are you sure that applies to the bakery? I ask for a couple of reasons:

    1) It did not apply to restaurant recipes on the old gourmet farm.

    2) A member of my co-op has an L2 workshop on her gourmet farm, and has indicated the ingredients needed by her bakery are the same as without the workshop. It is possible that this is a display error, related to the display error that does not show the increase in quantity from co-op research.

    Can you verify whether you do actually get a reduction in the number of ingredients used by the bakery with a workshop?

    Thanks.
  • YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
    edited 03.04.2014
    Good news from other thread written by Kat Nip :
    ....the bakery values are being reassessed. Until then, we can only wait.......
  • Farmer GlenFarmer Glen Posts: 10
    edited 03.04.2014
    So what ones do you loose money on?
  • YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
    edited 03.04.2014
    So what ones do you loose money on?
    YINPlayer2 wrote: »
    Thank you, Manish!!Workshop reduces the amount of goods required for production , so it can help us to reduce cost efficiently.

    There is my farm's data , I want to share with all of you.

    For example : Apple turnovers
    Profit = 175 apple turnover - ingredients (712 eggs + 570 apples) - Running cost

    [Result]

    Research: apple+5% , eggs+33% , milks+24% , almonds+40%
    Running cost -74%

    Level 1 , 2 , 3
    1.Fruit cake with cream
    ingredients :milk + peaches + cherries
    Profit = +8519 ,+14859,+20299

    2. Apple pie
    ingredients :eggs + almonds + apples
    Profit = -1887 , +373, +2761

    3. Almond muffins
    ingredients : milk + almonds
    Profit = +6233 , +7398 , +8361

    4. Apple turnovers
    ingredients: eggs + apples
    Profit = -2070 , -1060 , -82

    So,if you want to produce "Apple turnovers" , you should be careful , because the meal is only one get minus profit.



    In this case , even if I don't put ingredients' running cost in the formula , we still can find out that produce "Apple turnovers" get minus profit. What I said is just a suggestion , I hope it can help someone that is why I start this thread. If farmers can share their experience , then we can find some strategies to avoid to get loss. :)
  • YINPlayer2YINPlayer2 Posts: 231
    edited 03.04.2014
    Good news , thanks a lot for GGS. :)
    [Official Announcements]
    Bakery changes with the next update
  • cedie3 (US1)cedie3 (US1) US1 Posts: 183
    edited 03.04.2014
    Memory: Modest restaurant. Marzipan selling for $340,000 at 100% happiness. Sigh.

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