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Then please tell how small coops (20 members or lower) can research the necesarry items to the gourmet?
NOTE THIS: On the skn1 server, it is very hard to grow the coop by getting more serius members who not stop playing after they have sent their application. - We have to be very happy and lucky if we just can grow our coop with 1 new meber in a month!
- I don't know how hard it is on other servers to get new members.
Hefty profit??? Oh come on, the new set up is nowhere near the profit of the old restaurant and dairy/bakery combination. The most efficient method for profits at this stage would be to fill the entire farm with almond orchards after fully researching almonds and then seeding and selling almonds all day long. Even at full research and full upgrade the bakery profits in comparison to simply selling eggs, apples etc isnt anything to get excited about.
Good work bringing in the ducks, donkeys, goats, and making gardens and orchards smaller but the bakery is very disappointing.
I am on UK, WWW and FR servers and we have exactly the same problems on these servers as you have with finding good new members. This change is impossible for small coops unless they can afford to spend huge amounts of gold.
1- bakery graphics are super cool
2- bakery storage idea and mass production is super cool
3- everything is cool in short...
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but! someone messed up in doing the calculations Latten, neither its hefty money or anything close to that. it's simply useless building that we watch without using.
p.s. I love all other new changes... but seriously why did you go guys and mess up such a good building by just some wrong calculations at the last minutes before finalizing it... I hate to not upgrade and use my bakery, but the way it is right now.. it just not worth even using or upgrading or anything really...
Where exactly do we find "bring in the harvest"? I can't find it on either of the gourmet farm researches.
Doing a bit of mental maths, so it's only rough, We have 19/19 in our co-op, assuming everyone is generous enough to donate ALL of their weekly log in bonus to the co-op it will take over 10 weeks to collect enough gold to research the next level in recruitments. Obviously it will cost more gold to research the next level to get 23 people in the co-op, not sure how much but guessing it will be a lot more than the 9k for 21 people.
So reading between the lines, the only way the bakery will turn a profit is if people buy gold and then invest it in the co-op (not even going to try and guesstimate the dollar investment needed). So really the bakery aspect of the gourmet farm is only useful to gold buyers. Personally I have no problem with gold buyers getting something extra as a reward, gold buyers pay the bills.
However, I think GGS should come clean and say it will only turn a profit for gold buyers, rather than beating around the bush and trying to justify the bakery.
When are you expecting the balancing team to arrive with these figures showing this hefty profit they have told you about?
Will it be today?
Thanks
I set up my farms for long productions and only keep a minimum of the shorter productions.
Am hoping that it isnt an Aprils fools graph saying that once everything is level 7 the ducks will start laying Faberge eggs and we can sell them for 5k each
On the skn 1 server there are only 18 coops with more than 24 members.
- all other coops are smaller, most of them lower than 20 members
Is that the same picture on other servers?
I liked the old gourmet farm. It was different to the main farm and it made me money. The only difference now is the bakery, which loses me money! I really don't see the point
I'm starting to think that was made on purpose as it wont get fixed and now no-one is even commenting on when it might be fixed. And it's totally in line with the gourmet farm thing, making things slower and harder.
What we haven't had an answer for is how do the smaller co-ops afford this research? And what about people not in a co-op? They will never make any profit so why build it? The game has just been made impossible for these people, was that the goal? If so I think the upgrade has achieved that.
The graphics and buildings look great, I give you that, but for the rest it seems a bit useless.
Donkey's don't really do anything. Should have made them give milk that could be used at the flowerfarm for a special bathcream.
For the rest things are too expensive, and none to harly any profit.
You are screwed if you are in a smaller coop. I am in one with 20 members and it will even still be impossible for us to get the researches done. It is hard to find new serious members.
Things really need to change or I am really thinking about leaving and I think a lot of others with me. Or maybe that was the intention because the servers were getting too busy?
I am still hoping against hope that this was all some kind of sick april fools prank (the prices and profit calculations I mean) but I doubt it. I will keep watching for changes the next couple of days and then will deside if I will stay or go.
If anyone knows of a simular game that isn't so effed up please pm me.
Butt loosing a LOT of XP:s is NOT fun!
No answer to that problem yet
so even at level 4 bakery is useless
hope it gives at least a dollar at level 7
sooooooooooo dissapointed
And still missing a lot of XP points in main farm.
That question was answered earlier, I am sorry, but you will not be getting those XP's back.
nope doing the calculations, even if you BE in a high lvl co-op you still wont make much a profit.
well you at least won't lose money though by running bakery maybe if you be in top 3 co-op.
They said XP's were lowered because you can now collect stuff at both farms, but they seem to have lowered XP's for all tasks. How does GF help when building something on main farm? And they lowered them a lot. Really a lot. Most people seem so concentrated on gourmet farm that they haven't even noticed that HUGE change. Getting to next level is way harder now.
Latten,
With restaurant and flower farm I guess there is no loss from first level irrespective of researches.Right?So why with Gourmet Farm?Forget about upgrading to maximum and all researches done.
1.There are many guys out there who do not want to be part of cooperative and they like it that way.So what happens to them?Force them to play in a cooperative?
2.What happens to low level players from 31st level since Bakery is available from that level?They have to run bakery at loss?
3.In one of your previous posts in happiness thread you mentioned about good profits with Gourmet Farm?Is this good profit really?
Anyway I am posting a table where you can see the maximum profit you can get with Fruit Cream Cake.Pass it on to your balance team and compare it with old restaurant and flower farm and please ask the balance team how about players from level 31.
Fruit cake with cream =400*620=248000 , with 20% from researches 297600
research number of dollars selling fruit cake 5% (maximum)=312480
For 8hrs the maximum profit you can get is $ 80005
Level-1
Milk :-1600 *35=56000
Cherries:-700*225=157500
Peaches:-600*100=60000
Total=273500
Loss=25,500 Profit=24100(with 20% researches) and Profit=38980
Level 2
Milk :-1560 *35=54600
Cherries:-680*225=153000
Peaches:-585*100=58500
Total=266100
Loss=18100, Profit=31500 and 46380
Level 3
Milk :-1520*35=53200
Cherries:-665*225=149625
Peaches:-570*100=57000
Total=259825
Loss=11825,Profit=37775 and 52655
Level 4
Milk :-1480 *35=51800
Cherries:-645*225=145125
Peaches:-555*100=55500
Total=252425
Loss=4425,Profit=45175 and 60055
Level 5
Milk :-1440 *35=50400
Cherries:-630*225=141750
Peaches:-540*100=54000
Total=246150
Profit=1850,Profit=51450 and 66330
Level 6
Milk :-1400 *35=49000
Cherries:-610*225=137250
Peaches:-525*100=52500
Total=238750
Profit=9250,Profit=58850 and 73730
Level 7
Milk :-1360 *35=47600
Cherries:-595*225=133875
Peaches:-510*100=51000
Total=232475
Profit=15525,Profit=65125 and 80005
Instead of telling us to upgrade to maximum and complete all researches because it was never like that with Resto or Shop.We earned profits right away irrespective of researches or level of resto/shop.How far is it fair?May be they have done wrong calculations.Ask them about all players instead forcing players to upgrade to maximum and complete researches and then give us advice that we will earn profit.