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Update Feb 25th - Pretty mysterious! - Discussion

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  • montuosmontuos Posts: 1,275
    edited 19.03.2014
    On the good side, we'll have all our houses and decos still there, so we can mend our happiness first, and then build according the the space that's left. :)
  • magician3 (US1)magician3 (US1) Posts: 8
    edited 19.03.2014
    Thanks for giving us previews of some of the new stuff. But could you also tell us some products that we will still be doing like onions, tomatoes, sugar, vegetables, butter and goat cheese so that I can still produce them or not waste my time. Since I will be spending some time rebuilding my farm and trying to grow new products it would be nice to have a stockpile of the present ones.
  • BriannospamGame (SKN1)BriannospamGame (SKN1) Posts: 1,803
    edited 19.03.2014
    Griffith wrote: »
    does this mean sweet tomatoes (and onion and sugar beet and mixed vegetable too) are gone forever or are these additional seeds only? T_T

    That's a good question Griffith.
    As I read and understand it, we in the future only will have 3 different things to the fields, where we now have 4 different things.
  • montuosmontuos Posts: 1,275
    edited 19.03.2014
    magician3 wrote: »
    But could you also tell us some products that we will still be doing like onions, tomatoes, sugar, vegetables, butter and goat cheese so that I can still produce them or not waste my time. Since I will be spending some time rebuilding my farm and trying to grow new products it would be nice to have a stockpile of the present ones.

    If you are still using products, then keep producing them right up until the last hours before the update. I would advise stopping production then, though, because they have said that in-progress production would be stopped, but they have not yet said whether there would be any reimbursement for in-progress items. I'm assuming there won't be, and I also assume in general that there will be snafus with in-progress processes during updates.

    Anything that is in your storage that is no longer needed will be automatically sold, so you will still profit from having a stock regardless of whether it goes or stays.
  • Niryn (INT1)Niryn (INT1) INT1 Posts: 255
    edited 20.03.2014
    I'm surprised at the garden becoming smaller, I thought it'd be the same huge size it is now o.o''
    It's going to be interesting to see how everything fits then, also I'm happy the compost and silo got a new look just for the gourmet farm and that they bothered to change the garden's look too when they probably could have just scaled it down a little bit. :D
  • flitterfootflitterfoot Posts: 10
    edited 20.03.2014
    Will the name of the gourmet farm be changed as it is no longer going to be used for food production?

    I know we get a bakery but it seems as though the fields will be used to feed the new animals on the farm and I'm guessing the bakery will be simply there to justify the orchards, or will it take the place of the windmill and produce food for the farm animals? To me it seems the farm will become an extension of the main farm, rather than a distinct farm on its own that utilizes some products from the main farm, so therefore it will no longer really qualify as a gourmet farm, which indicates the farm revolves around producing food, as it does now.

    I'm guessing things like the marzipan ice-cream, apple pies and Rita's salad will no longer be produced, as these are made using items currently produced in the dairy, and we will no longer have a dairy on the new farm and it seems the gardens will no longer produce the items needed for the salad anyway.

    Also, not that it matters to me as my farm name is generic, will people who have named their farm to indicate the restaurant properties of the second farm get a free name change, as the name they originally chose may no longer be appropriate.

    I am interested in what the bakery will produce if it is being used for human food rather than for animals, as the options seem a little limited at the moment.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 20.03.2014
    [...]
    I know we get a bakery but it seems as though the fields will be used to feed the new animals on the farm and I'm guessing the bakery will be simply there to justify the orchards, or will it take the place of the windmill and produce food for the farm animals? To me it seems the farm will become an extension of the main farm, rather than a distinct farm on its own that utilizes some products from the main farm, so therefore it will no longer really qualify as a gourmet farm, which indicates the farm revolves around producing food, as it does now.

    [...]

    We're getting a water mill, so nope, it (the bakery) will not be producing feed. ^^ It (again the bakery :P ) will be producing dishes that end up in your inventory to sell. I have no clue what kind of dishes though.
  • sharon99 (US1)sharon99 (US1) Posts: 8
    edited 20.03.2014
    I agree with you, we didn't need another clone of the main farm with the same type of setup - silo and composter and animals and what sounds like much lower profit margins just like the main farm has. I have counted on the gourmet Farm with all its faults to make the money to get all the upgrades and and buy all the land for both farms now where will I get the money to do that, the Flower Farm? I barely started it. I smell bankruptcy in my future sheesh

    not to mention there will be no more dairy or bakery on GF so now the FF will probably not make much $$ either. this is really not a good idea for GGs to do
  • ChampionNakshjaChampionNakshja Posts: 1
    edited 20.03.2014
    Thanks manish for help please one me
    from vanshaj farm
  • sharon99 (US1)sharon99 (US1) Posts: 8
    edited 20.03.2014
    Will the name of the gourmet farm be changed as it is no longer going to be used for food production?

    I know we get a bakery but it seems as though the fields will be used to feed the new animals on the farm and I'm guessing the bakery will be simply there to justify the orchards, or will it take the place of the windmill and produce food for the farm animals? To me it seems the farm will become an extension of the main farm, rather than a distinct farm on its own that utilizes some products from the main farm, so therefore it will no longer really qualify as a gourmet farm, which indicates the farm revolves around producing food, as it does now.

    I'm guessing things like the marzipan ice-cream, apple pies and Rita's salad will no longer be produced, as these are made using items currently produced in the dairy, and we will no longer have a dairy on the new farm and it seems the gardens will no longer produce the items needed for the salad anyway.

    Also, not that it matters to me as my farm name is generic, will people who have named their farm to indicate the restaurant properties of the second farm get a free name change, as the name they originally chose may no longer be appropriate.

    I am interested in what the bakery will produce if it is being used for human food rather than for animals, as the options seem a little limited at the moment.

    wow flitterfoot; that is exactly what i was going to ask. good question! hope we get an answer!
  • CM NafaruCM Nafaru Posts: 1,325
    edited 20.03.2014
    What does it mean that the garden needs "dollar"?
    Is that money to start?

    Yep. As with fields right now, you need to pay the seeds and hence spend some dollar on starting the production. :)
    Griffith wrote: »
    does this mean sweet tomatoes (and onion and sugar beet and mixed vegetable too) are gone forever or are these additional seeds only? T_T

    p.s. great work on designs and graphics of all new buildings and difference in number of workers and sizes from main farm seems like an interesting new challenge, great work guys, don't keep us waiting forever though plz :D

    Thank you. :)

    Tomatoes and all the other vegetables you had on the gourmet farm before will have to go, yes. But as you can see, they will be replaced with new goods. :D
  • EricaJ (US1)EricaJ (US1) Posts: 202
    edited 20.03.2014
    Larino wrote: »
    We're getting a water mill, so nope, it will not be producing feed. ^^ It will be producing dishes that end up in your inventory to sell. I have no clue what kind of dishes though.

    My assumption all along has been that the new water mill will mill feed for the ducks, donkeys, and goats - and it looks like the inputs for those feeds will be dandelions, barley, and lambs lettuce.

    Did I miss an info post somewhere?
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 20.03.2014
    EricaJ wrote: »
    My assumption all along has been that the new water mill will mill feed for the ducks, donkeys, and goats - and it looks like the inputs for those feeds will be dandelions, barley, and lambs lettuce.

    Did I miss an info post somewhere?

    Oh, sorry. I see my post can be read wrongly. I meant it the same way as you. I meant the bakery will be producing dishes that end up in inventory to sell. Thanks for pointing that out!
  • EricaJ (US1)EricaJ (US1) Posts: 202
    edited 20.03.2014
    Larino wrote: »
    Oh, sorry. I see my post can be read wrongly. I meant it the same way as you. I meant the bakery will be producing dishes that end up in inventory to sell. Thanks for pointing that out!

    No problem - I'm glad we got that solved. :)

    Question for our CMs: Is there any way that you could give us the recipe changes for the flower shop necessitated by the gourmet farm rework?

    My build queue has been mostly empty since the gourmet farm announcement - because these changes will impact the flow on both of our other farms. I don't want to continue building out the flower farm without this information, and I don't want to make any changes to the main farm until we know more about the cycles on the new gourmet farm, including fertilizer requirements, etc. It's been nearly a month since the changes were announced, nearly a month of waiting so that I can make informed build decisions.

    Thank you for any additional information you can release.
  • FarmerBlack (US1)FarmerBlack (US1) Posts: 58
    edited 20.03.2014
    There is one question I and some others brought up a while ago when this new Gourmet Farm update was announced to which I don't remember seeing an answer:
    - What happens to the Restaurant?

    The Restaurant came with the Gourmet Farm, it was not built from scratch. A while back it sounded like we would still have one in which we make items to sell for profits similar to what we currently do, or store them for future sales. But I haven't seen anything lately about it from official GG personnel. And with ALL current Garden items defunct, all but 4 or 5 current recipes (from Main Farm products) cannot be produced.

    So to simplify my question above:
    - Will the current Restaurant also be destroyed?
    - If yes, will there be a replacement Restaurant?
    - If yes again, will a level 1 already be in the farm, or must we now build it from scratch as well?
    - and, will any old recipes remain, or just new ones?
    - and, will a preview of specs be revealed prior to full release like the other buildings so far, possibly including some hints as to any recipes?

    If NONE of the old recipes remain, then the Gourmet Research tab in it's entirety will be wiped clean or deleted, not just adjusted.

    Note: I guess this new Gourmet Farm will end the debates over which of the current recipes are more profitable. :D
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 20.03.2014
    As far as ive heard, the resaurant will go, and be replaced with a bakery. Dont know if it will come as lvl one or in buildingmenu.
    the gourmetfarm will now produce feed for the new animals ( again if i got it right), and i dont know about recipies and such except some feel it will be more like a pettingzoo, with a few goods and stuff to sell from inventory.
  • FarmerBlack (US1)FarmerBlack (US1) Posts: 58
    edited 20.03.2014
    ladygrail wrote: »
    As far as ive heard, the resaurant will go, and be replaced with a bakery. Dont know if it will come as lvl one or in buildingmenu.
    the gourmetfarm will now produce feed for the new animals ( again if i got it right), and i dont know about recipies and such except some feel it will be more like a pettingzoo, with a few goods and stuff to sell from inventory.

    That's why I haven't been upgrading anything there except buying land parcels, I'm just using what I already have.

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    This is a graphic when looking through the button announcement that hints to still using Apples, Cherries and Almonds, along with the new Peaches, in the new Bakery goods. But as someone else recently asked, I wonder what will come of the Pasta Gift Basket and Honey Cream in the Flower Farm, both based on ingredients that don't sound like they will be made in the Gourmet Farm any more? (and the research that goes along with those Flower recipes.)
  • Kat Nip (GB1)Kat Nip (GB1) GB1 Posts: 3,796
    edited 21.03.2014
    Will the name of the gourmet farm be changed as it is no longer going to be used for food production?
    The Gourmet farm will still produce food goods, but with the bakery instead of the restaurant. If someone finds that the name they have isn't suitable after the revamp of the farm, then they can contact Support and see what they can do to help them out. :)
    sharon99 wrote: »
    not to mention there will be no more dairy or bakery on GF so now the FF will probably not make much $$ either. this is really not a good idea for GGs to do
    The revamped bakery will be running in the restaurants place so the potential is there for a similar amount of money to be made via the Gourmet farm as a whole.
    So to simplify my question above:
    - Will the current Restaurant also be destroyed?
    - If yes, will there be a replacement Restaurant?
    - If yes again, will a level 1 already be in the farm, or must we now build it from scratch as well?
    - and, will any old recipes remain, or just new ones?
    - and, will a preview of specs be revealed prior to full release like the other buildings so far, possibly including some hints as to any recipes?

    If NONE of the old recipes remain, then the Gourmet Research tab in it's entirety will be wiped clean or deleted, not just adjusted.
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    The restaurant will be demolished/disappear with the revamp and the new version of the bakery will take it's place. I don't know if it will be already established (level 1) on the farm or if it will have to be built from scratch though.

    Where the recipes are concerned, that is information I don't know sorry. I'm expecting that we will have to wait and see when the revamp happens to know. :)

    With the previews, I can only suggest that you keep an eye on the Official Announcements forum sorry. :)

    As for the Gourmet research, the new research will be swapped over one to one. For example, say you've completed the Perfectly Fried Lv 1 research, then the research that is put in it's place will be marked as completed. Any research that is already done and can't be swapped for a new research will see your coop with a full refund in compensation.

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  • minadequate2minadequate2 Posts: 93
    edited 21.03.2014
    Katnip could you find out/let us know if the cost of land on the gourmet farm will increase?
  • mariachi (RO1)mariachi (RO1) Posts: 7,850
    edited 21.03.2014
    With all these new buildings for the Gourmet farm.. I have a strong feeling the second farm is turning into a replica of the main farm:
    chickens -> ducks
    pigs -> donkeys
    cows- -> goats
    apples -> peaches
    cherries -> almonds
    mill -> water mill
    silo -> silo
    composter -> composter
    The only difference remaining is the Bakery.

    Do you have a raw model, a success story (the main farm) and you try to copy everything in the second farm? It's not a bad move in theory, but both in the same game? Might get preeety boooooring...

    The old version, with 3 different buildings, was nice, it was different. I know is to late now, the changes are coming, like it or not.. but still.. I wonder.. imagination is in short supply at GGS? Do you need any help? :)
  • Latten (DE1)Latten (DE1) Posts: 6,246
    edited 21.03.2014
    Katnip could you find out/let us know if the cost of land on the gourmet farm will increase?

    Not guaranteed, since it's not 100% final yet: The gold prices should stay the same, Dollar prices will be cheaper at the beginning and a bit more expensive later on. This is due to the completely different content of the farm, especially when it comes to higher levels. Level requirements for expansions might also change due to that :)

    Don't forget you'll keep all your expansions though.
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 21.03.2014
    So I was indeed clever buying all the land instead of upgrading stuff on that farm :D I now have all plots for the old prices ^^
  • ninan (US1)ninan (US1) Posts: 19
    edited 21.03.2014
    Larino wrote: »
    So I was indeed clever buying all the land instead of upgrading stuff on that farm :D I now have all plots for the old prices ^^

    Maybe... or the expansions may be priced more in line with the main farm :p -but at least you get to keep them! :D
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 21.03.2014
    ninan2 wrote: »
    Maybe... or the expansions may be priced more in line with the main farm :p -but at least you get to keep them! :D

    Well if they are being priced more in line with the main farm, then I was very clever. The last main farm plot cost me 30M - which I could hardly save up. The last gourmet plot was 6.something M. So if the price goes up, I am not paying that :D Latten at least said the latter expansions would be more expensive - and I just bought my last 4, all for 6.something M :D
  • ninan (US1)ninan (US1) Posts: 19
    edited 21.03.2014
    Larino wrote: »
    Well if they are being priced more in line with the main farm, then I was very clever. The last main farm plot cost me 30M - which I could hardly save up. The last gourmet plot was 6.something M. So if the price goes up, I am not paying that :D Latten at least said the latter expansions would be more expensive - and I just bought my last 4, all for 6.something M :D

    Nice! Good to know, and thanks for the heads up! My lower level expansions were pricier on the gourmet farm, but I have a long way to go!
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 21.03.2014
    ninan2 wrote: »
    Nice! Good to know, and thanks for the heads up! My lower level expansions were pricier on the gourmet farm, but I have a long way to go!

    Ohh, in that case check out this table: http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/showthread.php?54650-Levels-and-costs-of-farm-expansions&p=863666&viewfull=1#post863666

    It holds all costs for all land expansions and which level they unlock. Personally I find it a little difficult to view, but I am sure you will manage finding out which value means what ^^

    Edit: I see there is a bit less updated spreadsheet below that post, so you can open that as well.
  • Prince Krishna2Prince Krishna2 Posts: 228
    edited 21.03.2014
    will expansion price increase after new gournment anyone say?
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 21.03.2014
    will expansion price increase after new gournment anyone say?

    Answer is here:
    Latten wrote: »
    Not guaranteed, since it's not 100% final yet: The gold prices should stay the same, Dollar prices will be cheaper at the beginning and a bit more expensive later on. This is due to the completely different content of the farm, especially when it comes to higher levels. Level requirements for expansions might also change due to that :)

    Don't forget you'll keep all your expansions though.
  • ninan (US1)ninan (US1) Posts: 19
    edited 21.03.2014
    Larino wrote: »

    Thanks! That is very helpful. :) I had no idea the cost for the flower farm expansions went up so dramatically, and I suppose the gourmet farm could even run closer to those prices. ;(
  • Larino (INT1)Larino (INT1) Posts: 4,572
    edited 21.03.2014
    ninan2 wrote: »
    Thanks! That is very helpful. :) I had no idea the cost for the flower farm expansions went up so dramatically, and I suppose the gourmet farm could even run closer to those prices. ;(

    Yeah the flower farm would be the most expensive. So for the gourmet farm, I would try to buy as many plots as you can for your level and money you have before the update. I'm sorry it is all changing so much :(
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