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Event decs (my opinion) are about the only decs of use to anyone. So don't be throwing them away Tom
Thank you sheeps.....ditto ditto ditto......what gets me is these guys have been "so called" duped with previous games by GGS. But they keep getting back on the ride?????? Maybe they should read the fine print next time...lol
Hey I got it, they say there is so many unhappy about this, they should get together and get a class action law-suit against them...now thats putting your money where your mouth is!!! YAWNNNNNNNnnn
no problem...sorry here too!
Then what's the point of the last 10% on the scale if it's virtually unobtainable (or that nobody would reasonably attain it)?
Also, isn't the scaling a little... wonky, if your scale is realistically 500%--90% unhappiness? It seems to really be skewed on the unhappiness side...
I find that there are alot of those on both sides throughout this forum and (even recently) that have had valid things to say. I can see why you are downhearted though so I have this to say:
I will personally never again answer to another poster that disrespects players in this forum. This is a forum that has been set up for discussion on a particular issue. Of course there will be a lot of varying viewpoints. I am of the view that the handling of said issue has not been handled correctly, and I am gladdened to see that Latten has recognized this, and made mention of it “and” it is never too late to improve.
I am also looking forward to the upcoming announcement that will be coming from the gaming management. Hopefully there will be positive changes that will bring back a more hopeful outlook for the future of this game. I… like most of the players would like to see this game do well. For all of us that are happy or unhappy with this update, I am glad that we have a place to share with one another.
I thank all those that do so with kindness and respect. Those who put down other players, I will not acknowledge. And until we know with certainty the future path that the game is bringing us to…
Happy Farming to all…PeggyAnn
PS: If we ignore all those that use name calling, and do not acknowledge them...then we will have a much better place to come and post.
Some of us like the update, others don't. So be it. Here is no wright and no wrong. Everybody has there own ideas. But there is no need te be wright. There is no need to dislike eachother.
We are all grown up people, so I sugest that we are acting like grown up people and stop fighting and acting like children.
PeggyAnn, I know there hasn't been any major changes but they have had lots of other ones, correct me if I'm wrong but they have added in the last 12 months
- The flower farm
- 5 different event tasks (asia/nature etc)
- naughty & nice
-architect (and lots of extra levels)
- wheel of fortune
-dog
-bee lady
-gold mine
- Achievements
-easter/xmas events
while these aren't big they all add up, plus lots of other costs such as the internet hosting costs and servers. I would love more updates and quicker, but maybe since I'm not buying gold at the same rate as some other players is why I'm less irate about it.
Also while GG will have been making money for the past year, not all of that will be profit as the initial set up costs will have to be covered as when the game started they would have been running at a loss after developing the game.
I do agree that it takes a lot of time and cost to make major changes, so truly since the flower farm there has been ample time and dollars coming in to have placed another "major" change.
Many smaller updates have been added, and many of them have been appreciated.
Yet as you have stated...those of us that have not bought as much gold as other's have not completed everything as quickly. I am finished with all my farms now, simply because so much time has passed.
And most of the players that have been awaiting major changes could not be considered "irate".
Just because one posts that they would like to see more to do with new farming updates, does not mean they are irate...
I like your posts, because you are decent in your approach and though I may not agree with all you say, I do not find you irate
Don't forget the changes to the Water Tower pricing that led to the Gold Boycott of 2013.
(Interestingly, some of the comments there are more or less the same that people are making here with these changes...)
I can certainly understand why a lot of people might feel that way - however:
... and it seems strange that GGS would have made that end of the curve so flat if their real goal was to get more people to spend more money on high value decorations. They may come out with some additional higher value decorations available for sale, but I find it pretty hard to believe that a lot of people would be spending a ton of money on new decorations that would only drop the operating costs by a couple %.
So I'm going to put on my developer hat and mention a few other things that tend to be overlooked by most players, and are generally never mentioned in official communication about updates.
As it stands, at any given level, GGS is looking at farms that are all over the map: from zero decoration, all production farms to -100% farms with a lot of space devoted to decorations and much, much less production. In the midst of this huge variety of individual playstyles and goals, they need to set up level appropriate quantities for events, co-op projects, and find some way to group people in missions. There is a huge gap between the productivity of a zero decoration farm and a zero operating cost farm, and GGS has to somehow bridge that gap in setting appropriate quantities for events and co-op projects and grouping contestants in missions.
Since -100% happiness / zero operating cost is no longer attainable, I would expect more players will be reassessing their builds, and thinking things like, "Hmm... adding another chicken coop would only cost me about 1% in operating costs, so I think I will do that..." And I suspect that may be what the flatness of the high decoration end of the curve is designed to do - to encourage players to build more production facilities.
If that holds true, and more players build more production facilities, then whatever modeling GGS uses in designing events and grouping players in missions will become a lot simpler, and leave fewer "outliers" behind. That in itself could result in some players finding more success and enjoyment in the game.
The goal of zero or minimal operating costs has always been one chosen by players themselves, not highly promoted by GGS. It has, in many cases, created some frustration for the players who pursue it - because with fewer production facilities, it is more difficult for them to complete events and co-op projects and compete in missions. They are also, in many cases, less profitable than they would be if they built more production facilities.
How has this update impacted me personally? My operating costs are a little higher than they were before, but I'm still making money faster than I can spend it. And I think I'll build some more production facilities.
I don't like the happiness changes anymore than anyone else but I do feel like we need to all relax and hope that next weeks update makes up for it a little. (DONT REPLY TO THIS COMMENT!)
I prescribe a weekend of meditation (or similar mumbo jumbo) and buying any plots of land on the gourmet farm anyone has left since it is likely they will jump in price after! Lets all relax and reconvene to moan about everything we hate about the next update then.
Furthermore hopefully GG will learn to keep us in the loop more about changes in advance, and learn to be as courteous to us as we should be to them.
(yours minadequate-lama
Oh and EricaJ... great post I wholly see your point
are you bringing new decorations ?
Just wondering.
So if i get you guys correctlly, trippel2 and erica also..
New decos, even really good ones would have to be AWESOME to be of any real value?
So that.. what the update has really done is.. make it still ok for the factoryfarms ( good too,, up to them after all:) ) to go on.. and make decos only interesting for lowlvl players for while?
So that.. gold is really LESS needed than before?
Yes, my MF and GF both are running at +470/473 FF runs at -83. To run FF at +300 gives no profit ak a los.
That is why im completely confused about the reason behind this upgrade.
And all this primetime going on... now ive only played for a week with a long brake.. but its a h.. of a lot more than last i played.
I remember the bees and a couple of other things.. i remember everyone happy about farm 4..
Now the upgrade seems to do just about everything the opposite of what we were told the intention was, so ppl can still manage fine without buying gold .. i think thats great btw:)
but bottomline... im very confused.
I dont think this will solve your problem. Both players who are happy with the update tell us what so good about it.
lol, actually gold is now been given away in the forums...that is kinda amuzing if you dont look too closely at why)
And it is shown by 2 ppl who have both been clear that they are happy about the update, so it also shows that even if one is happy about it... one may not be clear yet as to what actually is best for profits.. thats all.. its on topic.. and clarifies confusion perfectly.
And since both sides probably can agree on this uncertainty... its finally something we dont need to argue over?
I don't actually know the full context of the snippet taken from Griffith, and am not going to spend time looking for it.
That hasn't changed with this update. Prior to the update, a lot of people chased the holy grail of zero operating costs, even though it often delayed the development of their farms and their profitability. Then, just as now, the only way to know for sure is to go through the process of making the calculations based on your playstyle.
A lot of people don't want to put forth that effort, and I can appreciate that. So, for them, perhaps -80-85% will be the new -100%. Or - they may actually look at it a little closer and decide to go with higher production.