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Update 18.03. - Happiness achieved

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  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 21.03.2014
    Marcella59 wrote: »
    Do you like the March 18 update- 41 likes and 230 don't likes, so I would say the majority of players don't like the update.

    majority of players on this thread are not majority of players, I've explained that in my earlier posts. so don't continue on your blasphemy plz. and let other players share their opinion instead.

    p.s. those statistics has no valid info to support them and has been counted and defined by an "unhappy player" not by a mod so they don't have any valid value.
    ex. how you can even say how many of players who posted on this thread are even still upset and unhappy or not (& vice-versa ofc), about this update after Latten and other mod's explanations.
  • minadequate2minadequate2 Posts: 93
    edited 21.03.2014
    sharon99 wrote: »
    If GGS really wanted to encourage ppl to buy more gold, why not open up for purchase any or all of the new farms just sitting there around our main farm??

    You say it as if its simple, at the moment all that is definitely done on those is the background graphic, and presumably a plan of whats going to happen on it. However all the other graphics (for produce), animations, and coding so it all works is unlikely to have been done. I expect thats neither as quick or cheap as people presume based on some of the outrage. Just working out how much things cost/earn appears to be hard enough (based on this update)

    I think we have to just wait for the gourmet update as that cannot be more than a few weeks wait away.
  • Marcella59Marcella59 Posts: 59
    edited 21.03.2014
    Griffith wrote: »
    majority of players on this thread are not majority of players, I've explained that in my earlier posts. so don't continue on your blasphemy plz. and let other players share their opinion instead.

    Number 1: I did nothing to disrespect God(blasphemy)
    Number 2: I didn't get those numbers from this thread
    Number 3: I didn't tell anyone they couldn't share their opinion
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 21.03.2014
    Marcella59 wrote: »
    Number 1: I did nothing to disrespect God(blasphemy)
    Number 2: I didn't get those numbers from this thread
    Number 3: I didn't tell anyone they couldn't share their opinion

    No.1: will be off-topic if i continue, check dictionary for more info for that word (it does not have to be God).
    No.2: plz do so to give your reference then and be sure that it's confirmed by mods at least, otherwise itll look just for causing a miss thought and "flood" here.
    No.3: only if you guys stop this fraud show, they can.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 21.03.2014
    blas·phe·my (blăs′fə-mē)
    n. pl. blas·phe·mies
    1.
    a. A contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity.
    b. The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God.
    2. An irreverent or impious act, attitude, or utterance in regard to something considered inviolable or sacrosanct.


    Off topic, i know.. but aslong as the word is in use and gets to stand.. i guess its ok if everyone is sure of what it means
  • Marcella59Marcella59 Posts: 59
    edited 21.03.2014
    Thank you LadyGrail
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 21.03.2014
    ty ladygrail that is pretty much what it means exactly and what you guys are doing here (acting like god of this game and owning it, threatening to quit and saying that the game will go down with you guys, giving yourself right to talk in other's place like you're a god or sth)
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 21.03.2014
    Marcella59 wrote: »
    Thank you LadyGrail
    You are welcome, so.. do i understand you correctly if i assume you are not overly happy with the update? :)
  • Marcella59Marcella59 Posts: 59
    edited 21.03.2014
    I am extremely unhappy with the update. I don't care about my farm because I got rid of some things over the weekend, but it hurt my co-op because we can't complete projects without fear of failing.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 21.03.2014
    Thank you :)

    Now, I dont know what every single person that plays this game thinks...but aslong as there has been a poll in another thread, where ppl could vote without being worried about angry retorts.. I belive it shows a fairly correct overview of the gamecommunity standing as a whole concerning this update.

    I know there has been claims the the ppl that like the update are afraid to talk in this thread due to the somewhat heated atmosphere, and i am sure those claims are true for some ppl.

    But.. they are true for some ppl that do not like the update aswell, and i know this for a fact, allthough i cannot prove it without breaking their confidence.. and braking forum rules.

    So my suggestion is... while we can agree that many find the environment in here too hostile.. then lets focus on the ppl that actually HAS posted or voted.. and so far the majority is unhappy with said update.
  • Marcella59Marcella59 Posts: 59
    edited 21.03.2014
    My thoughts exactly
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    edited 21.03.2014
    i am not happy with the update either all my gold wasted building the farm i wanted to have to delete and rebuild farm running on +353 now at least one thing it saves me spending real money because after having my gold wasted im not about to waste anymore. i would like to know how i can get my % back up to give me profit
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 21.03.2014
    4 of last posts above (#1450-1453) ^ are 2 ppl who have already posted their complaints before in this topic, nodding to eachother that they are unhappy again. This is what i'm referring to as "flood" in this thread .
    first one asks: so you're unhappy?
    then second says: yes i am
    then first one says: ty i am too
    then second says: yea me too

    seriously guys?
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    edited 21.03.2014
    4 of last posts above (#1450-1453) ^ are 2 ppl who have already posted their complaints before in this topic, nodding to eachother that they are unhappy again. This is what i'm referring to as "flood" in this thread thread.
    first one asks: so you're unhappy?
    then second says: yes i am
    then first one says: ty i am too
    then second says: yea me too

    seriously guys?
    are you referring to my post that i have just posted ????????
  • Irish MistIrish Mist Posts: 6
    edited 21.03.2014
    Griffith wrote: »
    ty ladygrail that is pretty much what it means exactly and what you guys are doing here (acting like god of this game and owning it, threatening to quit and saying that the game will go down with you guys, giving yourself right to talk in other's place like you're a god or sth)

    Why don't you take your own advise here and let the "happy" players post ?? After reading dozens of posts the one i see acting like that and playing wanna be Mod is you!!

    Now back on topic before my post also gets deleted along with many others before in this thread i am onother extremely unhappy player with the happiness update and agree withh all that was said by players here so i'm not going to repeat the whole again ..i am one of the ones that didn't post here before but voted in the other thread before no one needs to accuse Ladygrail of speaking for others . She is right when she says unhappy players are still here because being loyal to the co-op, i am one of those because we had a project going when update happen and an ongoing one now so for now i'm still playing but dislike the happiness update very much.
    Not everyone comes to post or read forum because some coops have the leader or another player that comes to forum and brings back the news to the whole co-op but i just felt the need to post now after seing so much ramblings of yours of saying to let others post their opinion !!!
    Thanks Ladygrail .

    p.s Thanks GGS for the ignore button now i'll get to see how it works !
  • Latten (DE1)Latten (DE1) Posts: 6,246
    edited 21.03.2014
    No, he didn't - it's the three before that.

    And he's right about that ;) Please keep posting just for the sake of it to a minimum. I know how difficult this topic is, but still we don't want flooding or spam in the discussion threads, so that everyone can easily read up on it.

    Edit: And I'm talking to both sides of the argument here ;)
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    edited 21.03.2014
    latten can you help with the question i asked so i know which way to go thank you
  • Latten (DE1)Latten (DE1) Posts: 6,246
    edited 21.03.2014
    uksharon3 wrote: »
    latten can you help with the question i asked so i know which way to go thank you

    You improve your running costs as usual - Decoration :) Just keep in mind that going near 90% is considered pretty much the end of the line for now.
  • PeggyAnn2PeggyAnn2 Posts: 36
    edited 21.03.2014
    Gizmo, I understand your concern that perhaps the game may shut down due to the dissatisfaction of many of the players. I also would like to see this resolved, and for the game to continue. Yet I and many of the players see that this recent update cannot be ignored. I personally did not spend a lot of money on gold decorations, yet like many others I worked very hard to achieve 100% happiness on my farms. Earlier a player made mention that if you went to a ball game you could not get your money back if your team loses.
    Yet that is not what we have here. If you pay to go to a ball game, you go with the “expectation” that there will be a “win” or a “lose”. You will not expect a refund, and you will continue to go to ball games because you got what you “paid” for.
    Yet if you paid to see a ball game and the management decided that the players would play a game of hide and seek instead, you have the right to expect a refund. If they refused to compensate the spectators, and consistently came up with varying reasons for their behaviors…you can be sure that there would be a reaction.
    This all started because of the players that strategically chose to have a mass production farm. The management made this statement about that:
    “Now, again I see where you're coming from. In a way, we _are_ punishing some of our most clever and comitted players since they are the ones who actually came up with this. But! If this way of playing the game will be picked up by everyone - which would be the case if we just leave it like that, no doubt - because it's both highly efficient and clearly the "better" choice, if you'd have to choose between the two methods”.

    With that, and many other comments, I also have chosen to become a mass production farmer. Yet prior to my decision, I had always seen that it was GGS that created the very setting for players to find the better choices to play the game that was set before them. The very “creation” of the game by GGS was to implement “rankings” within the game itself. That soon became the game “within” the game. GGS has gained their greatest profits from this. All this from the Top Players in the game.
    GGS could have chosen a totally different method of implementing this farm game, where they would have attracted most players in wanting to pay to play. The farm game itself brings a lot of happy players on board. Mix that in with a confidence and trust in the gaming management, and you can have a sure winner.
    Yet the management has lost respect from many of their players because they have taken from players what they paid for, have set into motion by fellow players a belittling of players that have brilliantly changed up their farms to play the very game that was set before them, and have mismanaged the handling of this aspect of the game.
    So, I really do not see a lot of these players being silenced any time soon, and that truly is a shame because it does not need to be this way. The creators of this game could find a way to resolve this. Having owned my own business…I know it “can” be done.
    gizmo222 wrote: »
    The reason I don't push it too far when voicing opinions is that I don't want to be involved in the punishment of players. What I mean by that is there are lots of players that love this game and pushing negativity and being part of gold boycotts will have this game shut down because they can no longer afford to pay the workers. Then everyone misses out! I'm not a fan of this update, actually a lot of updates haven't sat well with me particularly the deco tower so i'll post my negative thoughts once (if u go to my first post in this thread you will see that i'm not a fan) and simply try and adapt my game to deal with the change. Might as well enjoy it while it lasts instead of pushing for the fast shutdown and then everyone misses out.
  • amaprincess1 (US1)amaprincess1 (US1) Posts: 636
    edited 21.03.2014
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    I'll beat it one more time for luck...

    Just an observation and one simple question. I completely understand that greater significance is now given to the "higher" end of happiness. Anything above 90% should be difficult to attain. Excellence isn't free in the real world. I get it. What I don't understand is why so much MORE significance is attached to the other end of the spectrum. Motivated players who wish to contribute the most to their co-ops are most often the same people who love the game and want it to be successful. Production farms are not the debil! These are farms managed by the players you should be trying to keep happy. They stay around and I bet they spend the most money in here in general. Why alienate this segment of your player-base? That's what I don't get. Listen to your loyal players, PLEASE.
  • PeggyAnn2PeggyAnn2 Posts: 36
    edited 21.03.2014
    Lol!!! Thank-you for a chuckle :)
    gizmo222 wrote: »
    I start clicking worker bubbles when I get bored then back to running my farm when I get bored with clicking on worker bubbles :D
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    edited 21.03.2014
    i dont think i can save my farm with this new update by the sounds of things so the end as come i shall start demolishing it and give the co op the cash sad to go but i cant play a game that as turned my once working for me farm into a nightmare to sort out bye everyone
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 21.03.2014
    Why are we still on this? I am beyond bored with it. How about opening a discussion thread on the "More information about the upcoming Gourmet Farm rework!" Please
  • PeggyAnn2PeggyAnn2 Posts: 36
    edited 21.03.2014
    Ahhh...excellent post Princess! The only thing I do not understand is that players try and compare this game to the "real world". Why?? We get enough of the real world in the "real world". As many have said...this is only a "Game". And in a virtual game many players play a game such as this for the relaxation and pleasure it will bring from their daily grind of the stresses that the real world can bring. So....in a virtual game anything is possible...even a 100% Happiness :)
    a4-bp-blogspot-com__zknyzusi7yc_tlzqdt6jkri_aaaaaaaaavc_hvsewu0xz8c_s1600_beating_the_dead_horse-jpg.24735

    I'll beat it one more time for luck...

    Just an observation and one simple question. I completely understand that greater significance is now given to the "higher" end of happiness. Anything above 90% should be difficult to attain. Excellence isn't free in the real world. I get it. What I don't understand is why so much MORE significance is attached to the other end of the spectrum. Motivated players who wish to contribute the most to their co-ops are most often the same people who love the game and want it to be successful. Production farms are not the debil! These are farms managed by the players you should be trying to keep happy. They stay around and I bet they spend the most money in here in general. Why alienate this segment of your player-base? That's what I don't get. Listen to your loyal players, PLEASE.
  • draas2draas2 Posts: 21
    edited 21.03.2014
    This is my last say on this subject: The implementation is worse than I expected. First, I do not run a mass production farm but wanted to one day. Second, all three of my farms on the US1 server were well over 100% before the update. Now, two of them are 80% and one of them is 90%. Third, I have no blue houses on any of my farms.

    The problem that I am having is that it doesn't appear to be a benefit to putting in extra decorations now. The point of decorations to reduce happiness is gone. You'd have to either have 70% of your playing field filled with happiness or have nothing but blue houses and gold decorations to achieve anything even close to 100%. This just doesn't seem right. If the logic of the update was to get players to put more decorations on farms, then why the marginal return for putting decorations on farms?

    Instead, this update has shown me that there isn't much of a cost to adding another house or losing another decoration. So, that is what I am doing. To squash with my prior concern with happiness and running costs. The running costs are not that bad, even when you are in the red. I built my gourmet farm while it was in the red for the vast majority of the initial build, and I still made money.

    This is just a sad time for GGS BF. I am more committed to not spending a single dime on this game ever again. And, I am sure the frequency of my play will go down. Do better.
  • PeggyAnn2PeggyAnn2 Posts: 36
    edited 21.03.2014
    Why are we still on this? I am beyond bored with it. How about opening a discussion thread on the "More information about the upcoming Gourmet Farm rework!" Please

    Do not read them :)
  • Twiglet (GB1)Twiglet (GB1) GB1 Posts: 1,174
    edited 21.03.2014
    Quote Originally Posted by SheepsFlower3 View Post
    Why are we still on this? I am beyond bored with it. How about opening a discussion thread on the "More information about the upcoming Gourmet Farm rework!" Please
    the thread is here :)

    http://en.board.goodgamestudios.com/bigfarm/showthread.php?101812-More-information-about-the-upcoming-Gourmet-Farm-rework!
  • tom24852tom24852 Posts: 50
    edited 21.03.2014
    Before this thread gets deleted could someone please answer my question.....in regards to event decs..are they now virtually useless to higher ranked players?....


    This is the third time i've asked this question....the other two posts were deleted because some of the other content was off topic.
  • amaprincess1 (US1)amaprincess1 (US1) Posts: 636
    edited 21.03.2014
    PeggyAnn2 wrote: »
    Ahhh...excellent post Princess! The only thing I do not understand is that players try and compare this game to the "real world". Why?? We get enough of the real world in the "real world". As many have said...this is only a "Game". And in a virtual game many players play a game such as this for the relaxation and pleasure it will bring from their daily grind of the stresses that the real world can bring. So....in a virtual game anything is possible...even a 100% Happiness :)

    What, your real life farm doesn't have hundreds of employees who work for nothing but the chance to look at picnicking pandas?
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 21.03.2014
    uksharon3 wrote: »

    Yeah thanks Sharon, I thought it would be much simpler for them to open a new thread with the correct title.

    Pretty mysterious doesn't sound anything like information about the Gourmet farm.
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