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Update 18.03. - Happiness achieved

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  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    considering support seems to be down, some say they cant post tickets... could be a glitch ofc..
  • Go-jiraGo-jira Posts: 3
    edited 19.03.2014
    Just wondering...

    Is all this update nonsense a ploy to deliberately make players unhappy enough to drive them from the game so that you can trash this one as "unprofitable" and start a new one? I know it's happened before. If that's the case I don't know that you could give me enough game gold to compensate me for the time I've put into making my farm what it is. I know GGS wouldn't provide enough to rebuild my farm to its current state, and there's NO way to make up for the time I've put into it. I don't like the change. My hubby doesn't like the change. We've both put money into it, and if the game is discontinued we're going to be VERY vocal about how this situation has been mishandled. On the other hand, if the game's discontinued it would serve me right for ever being stupid enough to play another GGS game after the last GGS farm game I played suddenly disappeared.
  • Dikte (SKN1)Dikte (SKN1) Posts: 4
    edited 19.03.2014
    Mine workers demanded a wage and we agreed wages by my acquisition of the farm. Along the way, I tried to make them happier with different decorations and houses and succeeded 100%.
    But now they are not so happy (83%) and they demand higher wages, and I can not afford the huge increases in salary, so I see no other way than to make a lock out, tear decorations and houses down and sell the farm to the highest bidder :)
    Google translate
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    Dikte wrote: »
    Mine workers demanded a wage and we agreed wages by my acquisition of the farm. Along the way, I tried to make them happier with different decorations and houses and succeeded 100%.
    But now they are not so happy (83%) and they demand higher wages, and I can not afford the huge increases in salary, so I see no other way than to make a lock out, tear decorations and houses down and sell the farm to the highest bidder :
    Google translate

    very well put:) and wonderfully within gamespirit;)
  • OrganicFarmer7OrganicFarmer7 Posts: 2
    edited 19.03.2014
    Not happy at all....hard enough for a cooperative to exist....just make everything harder and more expensive for everyone...that will draw all kinds of new players...and lose the very ones that have enjoyed this game...and HAVE IS BECOMING A WORD that is becoming more and dearer to my heart when all these changes do not consider the very reason for a game "FUN"...HAVE GGS left that word from their vocabulary and replaced it with "WORK" AND "MONEY"? Harder and more expensive is not a drawing tool to the game.
  • KimmieCat (INT1)KimmieCat (INT1) Posts: 52
    edited 19.03.2014
    Latten wrote: »
    That's pretty much what I'm getting at, yes :)

    I'm being honest here guys, I too have yet to know how exactly everything will pan out, but from what I know, that's the advice I'd give for now :) Let's wait how everything looks like after the 2nd farm rework, and go from there.

    Yeah, good advice. Let stop playing untill the rework of the 2nd farm is done. Because at this moment you earn almost nothing with the dropped happiness on all 3 farms.
    And then when the rework is done.....we might just decide to never play again. I do not believe it anymore that investments made in the 2nd farm, will be returned to build it up in new style. Because promises done sofar, have not been kept. So why would they in future?
  • Trippel (NL1)Trippel (NL1) Posts: 299
    edited 19.03.2014
    Latten wrote: »
    That's pretty much what I'm getting at, yes :)

    I'm being honest here guys, I too have yet to know how exactly everything will pan out, but from what I know, that's the advice I'd give for now :) Let's wait how everything looks like after the 2nd farm rework, and go from there.
    Griffith wrote: »
    p.s. i just have one advice... dont go demolishing and ruining your farm before you actually see this update please.

    No comment, no harm intended.
  • Instant Ocean (US1)Instant Ocean (US1) US1 Posts: 189
    edited 19.03.2014
    Latten,

    Could please stop diverting the question of happiness to the GF revamping. You are clearly avoiding the subject and trying to change it. I'm sorry buddy, but you may talk about the GF all you want, that's fine, but stop avoiding talking about the MAIN topic of this thread which is The Change in Happiness Formula in an attempt to make Mass Production Farmers to revert to what GGS deems to be the "way the game should be played".

    I hope you will not take this the wrong way and I am saying this with all due respect: But could you please stay on topic my friend and address it? You are OUR CM... OUR GO-TO Guy. We have no one else to ask the question to.
    At least say you don't know or whatever but please address the 1000 posts in here from ppl that do love this game but are furious about the latest change.

    I think GGS owes us a BIG explanation and unfortunately, you are the man on the front line making the bridge between high echelons of GGS and the player base.

    Have a good night,

    IO
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    soo.. really? do nothing until gf is demolished?... how is that supposed to be fun when all the timeframe we have is.. really soon ( like the 4th farm that is just around the corner.. sry, was).
    Just harvesting stuff isnt fun very fast.
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 19.03.2014
    Latten,

    At least say you don't know or whatever but please address the 1000 posts in here from ppl that do love this game but are furious about the latest change.

    I would like to once again remind here that give the statistics right plz about this subject, the number of posts does not represent number of "unhappy" players here either.
    even i myself have about 100 posts in this thread i bet till now.
    so don't go saying again, 1000 ppl and stuff like that, all ive seen here from start to now, is barely 200 players max, and about 1/5th of them are "happy" opinions not "unhappy" opinions
    so barely let's say 160 players max?!
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 19.03.2014
    For anyone appealing to some purported freedom of speech claim, freedom of speech is not absolute.
  • FarmingGamerFarmingGamer Posts: 107
    edited 19.03.2014
    Griffith wrote: »
    I would like to once again remind here that give the statistics right plz
    even i myself have about 100 posts in this thread i bet till now.

    ?(:rolleyes:8o

    Your total number of posts till date 98 lol and 100 posts in this thread alone ?(

    hehe statistics
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 19.03.2014
    Someone can't do math. :P
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 19.03.2014
    jaystarr2 wrote: »
    For anyone appealing to some purported freedom of speech claim, freedom of speech is not absolute.

    I stand corrected, "freedom of speech about the updates for all players as long as its on subject and non personal against others or does not break any other rules of forum"
  • FarmingGamerFarmingGamer Posts: 107
    edited 19.03.2014
    60 posts for now ;)
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    Griffith wrote: »
    I stand corrected, "freedom of speech about the updates for all players as long as its on subject and non personal against others or does not break any other rules of forum"

    Agreed, so maybe we can now agree that a personal understanding of exactly how many is ok with the update and how many is not.. is actually off topic?
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 19.03.2014
    ladygrail wrote: »
    Agreed, so maybe we can now agree that a personal understanding of exactly how many is ok with the update and how many is not.. is actually off topic?

    nope as long its referring to the "number of unhappy ppl about exactly this specific update" its not off-topic.
    because if you say Latten at least respond to these "1000 unhappy players" that is false info about this update and related to this thread and subject and i'm free to also post my own opinion about it. ofc referring to Latten and other ggs members, not toward you guys.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 19.03.2014
    I disagree about the "number of unhappy people" thing being on topic.

    This topic is about the update, not the number of people who like something or don't like something. Referring to the number of unhappy people (whatever that may be) is only relevant so long as it relates back to the update; surely discussing what that number is and who can do math or not and who is accurate or not is outside the scope of talking about the update.
  • AwesomerowendAwesomerowend Posts: 25
    edited 19.03.2014
    As a small sample, our co-op has 11 members, 10 active. We have 2 people negative about the upgrade (I was neutral before). The other 8 active players are all silent.

    10 people is too small a number, and not at all a scientific (random) sample. Similarly, counting the forum posts would not constitute a random sample. Given the amount of different people that have posted here, as well as the amount of interest this 'improvement' has generated, that there are more unhappy than happy people. (Ignoring neutral, silent etc).

    Numbers of 80% unhappy is very likely overstated, but my gut feel is that saying more people are happy is also stretching it a bit.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    i like the update
    37 14.98%

    i dont like the update but it will not effect mine playing
    35 14.17%

    i really not like and will stop playing
    42 17.00%

    i really not like but will continue to play but never use gold anymore
    133 53.85%

    These are the numbers from the GGS see this, thread another place in the forums.

    So according to this, 15 % like it, and 85% dont like it to different degrees.

    the total number of players that participated was 247.
  • jaystarr2jaystarr2 Posts: 1,657
    edited 19.03.2014
    Griffith wrote: »
    all your replies to me in the last few pages are off-topic if you read your own comment and logic then, wouldn't it be?

    Er, did you read my post? That's kind of why I said we've drifted into some weird metatopic discussion so I said I'd stop. :/

    But to get back on topic, regardless of what you think of numbers, it's at least apparently clear that a considerably number of people have voiced their dissatisfaction at the update.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    Topic: what do we think of the new update that happened on march 18th.
    MY opinion: I do not like it for reasons stated in earlier posts.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    As I have seen before, and as others have seen before .
    A game starts up, and becomes popular, ppl pay to play, and the amount of ppl that play for free never becoems too much to handle.
    Some time passes, how long depends on how much the game offers, but eventually ppl stop paying becauise they have bought all that there is to buy, income drops.
    Gamedevs expected this ( they have done it before). So now is the time to change the rules, and make it look like big change and more fun is coming.. bomb ppl with goldoffers they cannot resist, lure them with carrots( images of stuff yet to come).

    Then when that too is exhausted, and that doesnt take long, the game vanishes..

    i may be wrong ofc, but this is a wellknown pattern
  • Griffith (INT1)Griffith (INT1) Posts: 768
    edited 19.03.2014
    Artmaker wrote: »
    Here's the thing Griffith. People generally don't post in forums, or call companies, or write letters, when everything is fine. They do it most when there is something wrong.

    thank you, that is exactly what I'm saying too. so this sample is not a sample of all players. and does not represent "80% unhappy players" or "all unhappy players" or statements like that, to which i have only responded till now toward ggs to read and judge. and whether that is on-topic or not, is also for them to judge.
  • rick1558 (US1)rick1558 (US1) Posts: 17
    edited 19.03.2014
    I agree with john207 ..... this would greatly improve the farm image

    >why can't we have more farm implements, combines, hay balers, lets try to at least keep this a farm game
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    its a good idea.. i dont have my one haybale on the farm, and its kinda sad that theres no real room for it , and definatly not with this update::(
  • AwesomerowendAwesomerowend Posts: 25
    edited 19.03.2014
    Griffith, imagine you owned a bakery. Imagine you had about sold about 1000 loaves of bread a day, and you averaged 2 or 3 complaints a day. Image that you change the recipe of the bread. Suddenly you have 30 complaints a day. Would you consider it a problem or not?

    Should the number of complaints drop back to 2 or 3 a day, would life be all okay once more? Or would you only be able to tell at month end when you have an accurate idea of monthly sales volume?

    The matter is not as simple as pure mathematics.
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    ah yet another thing i didnt know was here... where do i find the ignorelist?
  • Instant Ocean (US1)Instant Ocean (US1) US1 Posts: 189
    edited 19.03.2014
    ladygrail wrote: »
    ah yet another thing i didnt know was here... where do i find the ignorelist?
    Just click on his name on any of his post and click on VIEW PROFILE. Once in there, on the left pane, below his "Avatar, you have the option to ADD TO IGNORE LIST.

    Enjoy!

    IO :)
  • SystemSystem Posts: 106,969
    edited 19.03.2014
    thank you:D you are too kind ;)
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